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Message 1683532 - Posted: 24 May 2015, 2:33:17 UTC - in response to Message 1683346.  

Think you should read this



Sirius i know more than most about why it needs to be done . AND THERE ARE MEDICAL REASONS

Whinging about oh i feel violated because i was not given a choice is total B/S

Unless it's been botched there is no reason to whinge like that or stop it or outlaw it .

So long as it done by a doctor and not a priest or Rabbi then there will be no problems .

But not having it done can and does cause problems .

My ex worked in geriatric and as men get old and things like Alzheimer's starts to kick in then you start to see infections occur . I would not have known this unless my ex worked for a hospital that was for geriatric patients that can't look after them self's

So now you all know and have some thing to look forward to in your old age .

It's done for medical reasons and not the same as female circumcision which it just mutilation and should be outlaw'd as there is no medical reason really .

Even the excuse of having a extra large clit is not reason as it does not cause a problem and that excuse is cosmedic not medical .
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Message 1683657 - Posted: 24 May 2015, 11:04:35 UTC
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TheDoctorsTV on Circumcision - a critique
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HBrCo5k1K_Q

Here both male and female circumcision are discussed.
Mom, why did you circumcise me?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U5kaEEckXmU
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Message 1684033 - Posted: 25 May 2015, 14:29:13 UTC

A month after the earthquake in Nepal children are in a particularly vulnerable position. Many lost their parents and now risk becoming victims of human traders!!!!
https://translate.google.se/translate?hl=sv&sl=sv&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.svt.se%2Fnyheter%2Futrikes%2Ftrafficking-hotar-efter-jordbavningen
South Asia, with India at the center, is the fastest growing and second largest region for human trafficking in the world after East Asia, according to the UN Office on Drugs and Crime (UNODC).
Over 150,000 people are believed to be trafficked in South Asia every year, but trading is done in secret and the true number could be much higher.
UNICEF estimates that 200,000 Nepalese women work as prostitutes in India, and fears that the number now may rise after the disaster.
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Message 1684445 - Posted: 26 May 2015, 10:37:45 UTC - in response to Message 1683338.  

Male circumcision is not the same as female circumcision there are medical reason that it should be done to boys . 10 -15 % of men need it .

Most circumcisions are not done because they are needed. There is absolutely no need to put a healthy child through this. It is cruel and has long term effects.

I agree that there's no need or justification to put a child through it if there are no medical benefits. However:
Nebus has testified he decided in late 2013 the circumcision was necessary because the boy was urinating on his leg due to a condition called phimosis, which prevents retraction of the foreskin.
This may be one of those rare cases where there are.
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Message 1684453 - Posted: 26 May 2015, 11:00:09 UTC - in response to Message 1684445.  

I remember in high school that a doctor checked us if you could retract the foreskin and if the scrotum was ok.
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Message 1684465 - Posted: 26 May 2015, 11:48:44 UTC - in response to Message 1684453.  

I remember in high school that a doctor checked us if you could retract the foreskin and if the scrotum was ok.

I don't remember anyone checking me, and i went to a catholic primary school.
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Message 1684467 - Posted: 26 May 2015, 12:00:45 UTC - in response to Message 1684465.  

I remember in high school that a doctor checked us if you could retract the foreskin and if the scrotum was ok.

I don't remember anyone checking me, and i went to a catholic primary school.

If you don't remember it, you where not checked.
It was very embarrassing.
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Message 1693560 - Posted: 19 Jun 2015, 14:06:53 UTC - in response to Message 1693553.  
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Sweden announces first centre for raped men...
http://www.thelocal.se/20150617/sweden-announces-first-centre-for-raped-men

The Law, in most of The USA, is very specific.

Rape: Penis, against Female's will, entering the Vagina. Not anything other than a Penis. Does not include Anus, nor anywhere else.

Forcible Sodomy/Sexual Assault: Everything else.

Therefore: Men, in The USA, cannot be Raped, under The Law.

That was the old definition. They changed it in 2013 and now its: "Penetration, no matter how slight, of the vagina or anus with any body part or object, or oral penetration by a sex organ of another person, without the consent of the victim."

So yeah, men can get raped.

Although the definitions used by states still vary.
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Message 1693605 - Posted: 19 Jun 2015, 16:58:33 UTC - in response to Message 1693570.  

Sweden announces first centre for raped men...
http://www.thelocal.se/20150617/sweden-announces-first-centre-for-raped-men

The Law, in most of The USA, is very specific.

Rape: Penis, against Female's will, entering the Vagina. Not anything other than a Penis. Does not include Anus, nor anywhere else.

Forcible Sodomy/Sexual Assault: Everything else.

Therefore: Men, in The USA, cannot be Raped, under The Law.

That was the old definition. They changed it in 2013 and now its: "Penetration, no matter how slight, of the vagina or anus with any body part or object, or oral penetration by a sex organ of another person, without the consent of the victim."

So yeah, men can get raped.

Although the definitions used by states still vary.

You have to understand The USA Legal System.

Almost all Rapes/Sodomy/Sexual Assault Crimes, fall under The Individual States Legal Systems, and Cultures.

Quoting Federal Law/Opinion, which has very limited application to State Law, is not helpful.

Yes... Laws in The USA vary among States.

Some States Criminal Acts, are not Criminal Acts in other States.

The Criminal Penalties vary among States (some have a Death Penalty - some not).

If you commit a Criminal Act in one State, and are captured in another State: You have to be Extradited to the offended State.

Rape: http://www.leginfo.ca.gov/cgi-bin/displaycode?section=pen&group=00001-01000&file=261-269
The Rest: http://www.leginfo.ca.gov/cgi-bin/displaycode?section=pen&group=00001-01000&file=281-289.6
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Message 1693648 - Posted: 19 Jun 2015, 19:52:44 UTC

Call it what you want. The effects on the victim are the same.
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Message 1693777 - Posted: 20 Jun 2015, 6:24:33 UTC - in response to Message 1693751.  

Call it what you want. The effects on the victim are the same.

Totally correct.

As any Law Enforcement Officer, can attest to.

My most 'Heart Wrenching' memories, are usually the Rape Victims. Not Murder Victims.

The Murder Victims, do not have to live the rest of their lives, with it.

Well that might be, but I am quite sure that most rape victims would rather not be dead.

Many people submit to rape just so they won't end up dead.

Rape victims can go on to lead happy and productive lives, with a little help and time.
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Message 1693975 - Posted: 20 Jun 2015, 16:14:54 UTC - in response to Message 1693891.  
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Some do, some don't.

Many don't understand the extreme emotional, extreme terror, extreme fear, at the time.

The Murder Victim, may be a gruesome sight. But they don't have to be comforted, nor holding and squeezing you, with every ounce of their strength.

This is not the response of every rape victim at the time (and the most personal violation of a Human Being). But happens enough, to be with the Officer, for the rest of his/her life.

So what you are saying is that rape victims are more traumatic for you, than murder victims. That may well be true, but for families and the victims themselves, I'd still say murder is worse.
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Message 1693978 - Posted: 20 Jun 2015, 16:20:11 UTC

Really guys, does it matter whether rape or murder is worse? They are both things that are absolutely awful, if for different reasons.
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Message 1693982 - Posted: 20 Jun 2015, 16:24:07 UTC - in response to Message 1693978.  

Really guys, does it matter whether rape or murder is worse? They are both things that are absolutely awful, if for different reasons.

Actually it does matter, because rape has such stigma that many rape victims are left to feel that they are better off dead and that what has happened to them is the worse thing possible.

So I think it is dangerous and unfair to rape victims to say that what happened to them is worse than death. Especially as many submit to the rape to avoid being killed.
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Message 1694183 - Posted: 21 Jun 2015, 5:32:37 UTC - in response to Message 1694164.  


Taken out of context, of course.

Speaking of The Rape Victim, not their Families, nor Murder Victims Families, of course.

....

Well it came across as insensitive. I know more rape victims that I wish I did, and someone claiming that being raped is worse than being murdered is pretty offensive.
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Message 1694244 - Posted: 21 Jun 2015, 8:56:52 UTC - in response to Message 1693982.  

Really guys, does it matter whether rape or murder is worse? They are both things that are absolutely awful, if for different reasons.

Actually it does matter, because rape has such stigma that many rape victims are left to feel that they are better off dead and that what has happened to them is the worse thing possible.

So I think it is dangerous and unfair to rape victims to say that what happened to them is worse than death. Especially as many submit to the rape to avoid being killed.

Yeah but part of that stigma comes from this kind of stupid discussion, wondering which is worse, trying to somehow quantify awfulness. My point is that both rape and murder have crossed the line to such an extend that talking about what is worse is just...pointless.

Say Stalin killed a million people less in his purges, would that have made him a better person? Would it in any way improve your opinion of him? Or does it no longer matter how many people someone has killed once their body count reaches the millions, because at that point its already absolutely clear that they are absolutely awful people?
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Message 1694366 - Posted: 21 Jun 2015, 16:43:42 UTC - in response to Message 1694300.  


Taken out of context, of course.

Speaking of The Rape Victim, not their Families, nor Murder Victims Families, of course.

....

Well it came across as insensitive. I know more rape victims that I wish I did, and someone claiming that being raped is worse than being murdered is pretty offensive.

Es99...

Since it is allowed for you to Post that I am Offensive and Insensitive towards Murder Victims

No, I said you were offensive and insensitive towards rape victims.

This is my reply:

How dare you.

I have my reasons.

Saying a Rape victim has to live the rest of their lives with..., and the Murder Victim does not, is correct.

Totally correct.

You are continuously making false ascertains and assumptions of others, who are not YOU, and fitting them into your Agenda.

Considering you just claimed I said the opposite of what I actually said, I find that highly ironic.

Since you may Post negative opinions regarding my feeling towards Murder Victims:

Nope, I have issue with your negative opinions towards rape victims.

My Opinion is this: There is a Darkness Within You.

Just my opinion, as you are allowed post your negative opinions about me.

Both are allowed. Correct?

What you are doing is effectively telling rape victims that they are better off dead.

I find that not only offensive, but as someone who has had to help someone with the long term affects of sexual assault, quite horrific. I am glad that person does not read here and does not have to see your horrible opinions. Especially after what they went through to get to a point where they were not suicidal.

Your opinion disgusts me.

There, have I made my self clear yet?
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Message 1694367 - Posted: 21 Jun 2015, 16:48:09 UTC - in response to Message 1693891.  

Obviously never did death notifications .......
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Message 1694589 - Posted: 22 Jun 2015, 14:41:49 UTC - in response to Message 1694587.  

Es99...

You Posted:

Your opinion disgusts me.

There, have I made my self clear yet?


Since your post is allowed. This is my reply:

And your opinion disgusts me.

Clear?

You original Post and my reply are the same.

Therefore, both are acceptable. Correct?

There is a difference between claiming that someone's opinion disgusts them and that the person disgusts them. If you don't want to get modded, I suggest you learn the difference.
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