RE: USB 3.x Support...

While you may NOT be after USB 3 Support, WITHOUT Support, even with USB 2 Thumb or Hard Drives, the USB Ports will act "funny" - Sluggish to respond, and cause Mouse Jerkiness in movement across the screen... This is what I noticed on my System, (New Prometheus), in Win 7 Pro x64. I HAD to obtain and Install Gigabyte's USB 3.x Drivers for Win 7 to smooth things out. Therefore, I HIGHLY recommend that you obtain the proper USB 3.x Driver Support for Win 7 Pro from your MOBO Manufacturer.

Since Installing said Gigabyte USB 3.x Drivers, the System has resumed "Normal" functionality and the Sluggishness has NOT re-exhibited itself. ymmv...


TL

[EDIT:]

...And, (as mentioned in my NVIDIA 388.13 Thread), I had a Separate Video/System Sluggishness issue when crunching Collatz and trying to use the System at the same time. This Sluggishness is DIFFERENT than the Sluggishness when I tried to use a Flash Drive in a USB 3 Port WITHOUT Proper USB 3.x Drivers from Gigabyte... At the time, I was unaware that Win 7 DID NOT have Native USB 3.x Support...


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RE: USB 3.x Support...

While you may NOT be after USB 3 Support, WITHOUT Support, even with USB 2 Thumb or Hard Drives, the USB Ports will act "funny" - Sluggish to respond, and cause Mouse Jerkiness in movement across the screen... This is what I noticed on my System, (New Prometheus), in Win 7 Pro x64. I HAD to obtain and Install Gigabyte's USB 3.x Drivers for Win 7 to smooth things out. Therefore, I HIGHLY recommend that you obtain the proper USB 3.x Driver Support for Win 7 Pro from your MOBO Manufacturer.

Since Installing said Gigabyte USB 3.x Drivers, the System has resumed "Normal" functionality and the Sluggishness has NOT re-exhibited itself. ymmv...


TL

Yeah, you're right. So what brand of motherboard is that? Just curious. Glad you got it to work, some have said to avoid Gigabyte motherboards, Me I had one ruin a 24 pin connector, but that was not the fault of the board as it was trying to feed 3 hungry Nvidia GTX295 dual gpu cards without a dedicated power card from EVGA to feed the PCI-E slots some extra power(though at the time I did not know that I should have had that EVGA card in there feeding power), there's a 1050w psu repair on an Enermax that will get done asap, all the way to Florida for a repair paid in advance at a place called Performance PCs(All 220mm of My 1500w psu came from them once upon a time), I tried to repair it and just made it worse, last I called they wanted $110. Since the motherboard cable is attached to the psu, otherwise I'd just go buy another cable.

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Now here a Softpedia X399 driver page for an Asrock X399 Taichi motherboard.

About Chipset Drivers:

Windows OS automatically installs a generic driver that allows computers to recognize basic motherboard functions. However, to make use of all board components, appropriate chipset drivers must be applied.

Key Features:

- Supports AMD TR4 Socket Ryzen Threadripper Series CPUs
- IR Digital PWM, 11 Power Phase & Dr. MOS
- Supports DDR4 3600+(OC)
- 4 PCIe 3.0 x16, 1 PCIe 2.0 x1
- NVIDIA 4-Way SLI, AMD 4-Way CrossFireX
- 7.1 CH HD Audio (Realtek ALC1220 Audio Codec), Supports DTS Connect
- 8 SATA3, 3 Ultra M.2 (PCIe Gen3 x4 & SATA3)
- 2 USB 3.1 10Gb/s (1 Type-A + 1 Type-C), 12 USB 3.0 (4 Front, 8 Rear)
- 1 U.2 Connector
- Dual Intel Gigabit LAN
- Intel 802.11ac WiFi

Anyone who needs the driver for Win 7/64 or 10/64, here it is.

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The ASROCK Taichi boards have always been looked favorably upon for Ryzen/X399 in the forums. Especially for memory support. They might not have the most polished BIOS releases but they get the job done.

There is the nice X399 Windows 7 USB 3.0 install update utility in the Windows 7 pulldown that had been referenced many times in the forums for getting USB 3.0 support installed into the Windows 7 installation media. Seems to get good reviews that it works well for that purpose.

The Gigabyte X399 Aorus Extreme motherboard has real VRM finned heat sinks too so a cut above the simple metal artwork VRM heatsinks on most X399 motherboards.

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The closest equivalent to Threadripper is 2 E5-2687W v2 cpus

just FYI if you're looking at E5 2600v2 chips

there is absolutely ZERO reason to go with the E5-2687Wv2. it will just cost more and use more power.

the E5-2667v2 performs identically in all scenarios (except clock speeds when you are being thermal throttled, which you should never be) and the 2667v2 will be cheaper and has a lower TDP.

just look at the Turbo bin speeds and it becomes clear.

and unless you NEED the GHz, you can get similar or more compute performance even cheaper by going with the 10-core 2680v2 or 2690v2

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RE: USB 3.x Support...

While you may NOT be after USB 3 Support, WITHOUT Support, even with USB 2 Thumb or Hard Drives, the USB Ports will act "funny" - Sluggish to respond, and cause Mouse Jerkiness in movement across the screen... This is what I noticed on my System, (New Prometheus), in Win 7 Pro x64. I HAD to obtain and Install Gigabyte's USB 3.x Drivers for Win 7 to smooth things out. Therefore, I HIGHLY recommend that you obtain the proper USB 3.x Driver Support for Win 7 Pro from your MOBO Manufacturer.

Since Installing said Gigabyte USB 3.x Drivers, the System has resumed "Normal" functionality and the Sluggishness has NOT re-exhibited itself. ymmv...


TL

Yeah, you're right. So what brand of motherboard is that? Just curious. Glad you got it to work, some have said to avoid Gigabyte motherboards, Me I had one ruin a 24 pin connector, but that was not the fault of the board as it was trying to feed 3 hungry Nvidia GTX295 dual gpu cards without a dedicated power card from EVGA to feed the PCI-E slots some extra power(though at the time I did not know that I should have had that EVGA card in there feeding power), there's a 1050w psu repair on an Enermax that will get done asap, all the way to Florida for a repair paid in advance at a place called Performance PCs(All 220mm of My 1500w psu came from them once upon a time), I tried to repair it and just made it worse, last I called they wanted $110. Since the motherboard cable is attached to the psu, otherwise I'd just go buy another cable.

My MOBO in New Prometheus is a GA-Z270-HD3 Intel Board. (6th and 7th Generation Intel CPU Support.) Gigabyte's Website with my MOBO Model input at the Site yielded Positive Results in finding the appropriate Gigabyte Win 7 Drivers. (They had Chipset, Sound, USB 3, and some other Drivers...) I only Downloaded the USB 3.x Drivers as everything else is working Stock through Win 7. (Sound: I'm using a USB Audio Device, so I turned the Integrated RealTek Sound Device OFF in the BIOS.)


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Here I think is the Gigabyte X399 Aorus Extreme motherboard you mentioned Keith. It's a high end board, I like it has the 6pin pci-e power next to the SATA.
But no 6pin PCI-E connector.

And for a $100 less is the MSI X399 Pro, The Gigabyte is about $409 from Amazon. There is a Gigabyte right now that's for about $300 and it's refurbished.

And here's the Asrock Taichi board for about $365. the heatsink can light up in White, Red, Yellow, Green, Blue, and violet, it might also do Orange too. People seem to like Taichi.

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No, that's the Gigabyte X399 Gaming 7 in your top image.

This is the Aorus X399 Xtreme:



The other decent Gigabyte X399 is the Designare EX.
https://www.amazon.com/Gigabyte-X399-AORUS-XTREME-GIGABYTE/dp/B07G7CCG3N?th=1

What I like about either the Xtreme or Designare EX is they can properly support 4 double wide gpu spacings. The Gaming 7 can't.

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DON'T buy Refurbished MOBOs!!! ONLY buy NEW!

I HIGHLY recommend Gigabyte. I've had THREE! WooHoo, (Tony), gave me one 4 years ago. Used it until I found I COULD NOT get NVIDIA Drivers Installed ABOVE 337.88 due to the Integrated 9400GT that COULD NOT be Disabled in the BIOS. (I was a little depressed, because otherwise the MOBO was an EXCELLENT MOBO.)

Went from that to a used GA-EP45-UD3P from a friend doing Folding@Home. This became Hackintosh-Andromeda/Original Prometheus.

Now on the GA-Z270-HD3 on New Prometheus with Intel i7 7700K @ 4.2GHz.

I have a fourth on Standby for next year. New Hackintosh-Andromeda: GA-H270-HD3 MOBO, Intel i7 7700K @ 4.2GHz.

I'm limited to the Intel Gigabyte Boards due to my fanaticism with Hackintosh Systems...

From what I've been reading, the Gigabyte Aorus Gaming MOBOs are rated HIGHLY on Amazon. I have an Aorus Gaming 3 with Gigabit WiFi on quote for a friend who wants a powerful Intel System... The Aorus Gaming 3 MOBO is supporting 8th Gen Intel CPUs.

For what you want, Vic, I HIGHLY recommend the Gigabyte X399 board. ymmv... [EDIT:] After reading Keith's Post, I agree on the available GPU spacing on the Gigabyte X399 Xtreme.


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The closest equivalent to Threadripper is 2 E5-2687W v2 cpus

just FYI if you're looking at E5 2600v2 chips

there is absolutely ZERO reason to go with the E5-2687Wv2. it will just cost more and use more power.

the E5-2667v2 performs identically in all scenarios (except clock speeds when you are being thermal throttled, which you should never be) and the 2667v2 will be cheaper and has a lower TDP.

just look at the Turbo bin speeds and it becomes clear.

and unless you NEED the GHz, you can get similar or more compute performance even cheaper by going with the 10-core 2680v2 or 2690v2

Yeah there were a lot of chips to look thru, I think I'll get the TR4 since it is on v2 a 14nm cpu, when I'm ready.

1. $136? Repair the gas furnace(H&B)
2. $811 Replace 2 windows(Glass Doctor)
3. $233 Replace windshield(Safelite)
4. $ 50? Repair driver door weatherstripping(Safelite?)
5. $110 Repair 1050w psu cable(Performance PCs)
6. $151 Samsung Registered Server ram @ 1866 DDR3 16GB (2 x 8GB) 240-Pin ram
7. $260 E5-2687W 3.4GHz cpu
8. $260 E5-2687W 3.4GHz cpu
9. $120 NZXT X42 140mm cpu cooler
10. $120 NZXT X42 140mm cpu cooler
11. $ 30 2-Indigo Xtreme Engineered Thermal Interface
12. $183 Huanan Huananshi Dual cpu x79 motherboard
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$2464


1. $136? Repair the gas furnace(H&B)
2. $811 Replace 2 windows(Glass Doctor)
3. $233 Replace windshield(Safelite)
4. $ 50? Repair driver door weatherstripping(Safelite?)
5. $110 Repair 1050w psu cable(Performance PCs)
6. $145 Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB (2x8GB) DDR4 DRAM 3000MHz C15 Desktop Memory Kit - White (CMK16GX4M2B3000C15W)
7. $900 AMD 2950X 3.5GHz cpu
8. $140 Enermax Liqtech TR4 280mm cpu cooler
9. $ 0 Noctua NT-H1 Thermal Compound
10. $450 Gigabyte X399 Aorus Extreme TR4 motherboard(a black motherboard would be set off by White dimms, which are less cost than other dimms of its model)
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$2976-2465=511

The 4820K runs at 3.7GHz and the 1650 v2 Xeons here run at 3.5GHz, both are 22nm Intel.

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DON'T buy Refurbished MOBOs!!! ONLY buy NEW!

I HIGHLY recommend Gigabyte. I've had THREE! WooHoo, (Tony), gave me one 4 years ago. Used it until I found I COULD NOT get NVIDIA Drivers Installed ABOVE 337.88 due to the Integrated 9400GT that COULD NOT be Disabled in the BIOS. (I was a little depressed, because otherwise the MOBO was an EXCELLENT MOBO.)

Went from that to a used GA-EP45-UD3P from a friend doing Folding@Home. This became Hackintosh-Andromeda/Original Prometheus.

Now on the GA-Z270-HD3 on New Prometheus with Intel i7 7700K @ 4.2GHz.

I have a fourth on Standby for next year. New Hackintosh-Andromeda: GA-H270-HD3 MOBO, Intel i7 7700K @ 4.2GHz.

I'm limited to the Intel Gigabyte Boards due to my fanaticism with Hackintosh Systems...

From what I've been reading, the Gigabyte Aorus Gaming MOBOs are rated HIGHLY on Amazon. I have an Aorus Gaming 3 with Gigabit WiFi on quote for a friend who wants a powerful Intel System... The Aorus Gaming 3 MOBO is supporting 8th Gen Intel CPUs.

For what you want, Vic, I HIGHLY recommend the Gigabyte X399 board. ymmv... [EDIT:] After reading Keith's Post, I agree on the available GPU spacing on the Gigabyte X399 Xtreme.


TL

I won't be buying a refurb TL, all are new, I just threw in a refurb as a comparison, but I do want a board that has a 6pin 12v pci-e connector for the video cards and a good vrm heatsink, The Asrock has both and great memory support, but to each their own. Nor a Chinese board that could be made with any chipset and well I looked high and low, if Huanan has a website it is well hidden.

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My bad, the Gigabyte TR4 Aurous does have both too(heatsink vrm and pci-e 6pin video power connector), interesting, I'll look at it, if I can find it.

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The killer deal on Threadripper pre TR2 announcement was to get in on the 24hr Amazon TR 1920X blowout deal for $249 back in August. Paired with cheap X399 boards and you could have put together a Gen. 1 TR system for under $600.

There is a good deal going on now for the ASUS X399 Prime mobo and the TR 1920X or $778 now.
https://www.amazon.com/Threadripper-12-core-24-thread-Processor-YD192XA8AEWOF/dp/B076TXHYN9?th=1

But neither of the ASUS X399 mobos offered in this bundle support proper 4 gpu double-wide slot spacings. The Gaming 7 bundle is unavailable currently.

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The killer deal on Threadripper pre TR2 announcement was to get in on the 24hr Amazon TR 1920X blowout deal for $249 back in August. Paired with cheap X399 boards and you could have put together a Gen. 1 TR system for under $600.

There is a good deal going on now for the ASUS X399 Prime mobo and the TR 1920X or $778 now.
https://www.amazon.com/Threadripper-12-core-24-thread-Processor-YD192XA8AEWOF/dp/B076TXHYN9?th=1

But neither of the ASUS X399 mobos offered in this bundle support proper 4 gpu double-wide slot spacings. The Gaming 7 bundle is unavailable currently.

And the Gigabyte Gaming 7 and the Asus you linked to(nice) has no 6pin video power connector or even a 4pin molex. It's hard picking just the right motherboard.

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Yes, the better boards have auxiliary power for the PCIe lanes to better support four gpus. But they are at the higher end of the cost spectrum. The maxim of you get better for what you spend holds true generally. I like the placement of the PCIe aux power connector at the front of the board near the SATA ports on the Gigabyte boards for simplicity of cabling. That's why I think my favorite so far is the Gigabyte Aorus Xtreme X399 board with that connector placement and good four gpu spacing. But you are going to spend north of $400 for it. Or the $540 price of my previous favorite the ASUS X399 Zenith Extreme.

But when I think of the $620 cost of my ASUS X99-E-10G WS Intel motherboard that properly supports 4 gpus, I come away feeling not too disappointed in the equivalent AMD HEDT motherboard selection prices.

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I just tried to ask tech support at Gigabyte a question, I'm done with them, I like the board, but support says Login and Register, Login is seen, but Register? MIA.

After much searching I found an email address and emailed Gigabyte the following...

Online tech support, well where is it?

The website says Login which is clearly seen, but Register is nowhere to be found, looks like Gigabyte is saying go away...

https://esupport.gigabyte.com/Login/Index?ReturnUrl=%2f

The browser I use is Waterfox 64bit, v 56.2.3, I'm not blocking the website at all, so how does one register?

I was interested in a Gigabyte Aorus Extreme, but since I see no chipset drivers for Win 7 64bit, then your board is not worth buying, from any retailer.

I can find the driver, but not from Gigabyte, from Softpedia and from a rival, Asrock.

I find everything I need at Asrock that is lacking at Gigabyte unless one has Win 10 which I don't even know how to operate, I have a laptop with it on it and all I managed to do was rename it, that's it. I can tell what memory is approved and tested at Asrock, anything. I do like the Gigabyte board, but with no support and drivers that might not install on it, why bother? I don't need that, not if I'm going to spend several hundred dollars.

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Well My email to Gigabyte went no where, I got a bounce back.

Address not found
Your message wasn't delivered to Services@gigabyte.com because the address couldn't be found, or is unable to receive mail.
The response from the remote server was:

550 5.1.1 <Services@gigabyte.com>: Recipient address rejected: User unknown in relay recipient table

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Well My email to Gigabyte went no where, I got a bounce back.

Address not found
Your message wasn't delivered to Services@gigabyte.com because the address couldn't be found, or is unable to receive mail.
The response from the remote server was:

550 5.1.1 <Services@gigabyte.com>: Recipient address rejected: User unknown in relay recipient table

X399 AORUS XTREME Full Drivers.

Found this on my first try, Vic. This Link, (while it says Audio), WILL take you to the FULL MOBO Driver Download List. Once there, make sure to change OS from "All" to "Windows 7 - 64-Bit". Then pick the Drivers you want to Download, use "America" for the Download Source.

I'm on FF Quantum 62.0.2 (64-Bit)...


TL

[EDIT:]

Plus, the MOBO comes with an Install DVD, (MOST Gigabyte Boards do, my Z270 and H270 boards both did), that will allow you to Install the Drivers for Win 7 Pro x64 from there...


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Well My email to Gigabyte went no where, I got a bounce back.

Address not found
Your message wasn't delivered to Services@gigabyte.com because the address couldn't be found, or is unable to receive mail.
The response from the remote server was:

550 5.1.1 <Services@gigabyte.com>: Recipient address rejected: User unknown in relay recipient table

X399 AORUS XTREME Full Drivers.

Found this on my first try, Vic. This Link, (while it says Audio), WILL take you to the FULL MOBO Driver Download List. Once there, make sure to change OS from "All" to "Windows 7 - 64-Bit". Then pick the Drivers you want to Download, use "America" for the Download Source.

I'm on FF Quantum 62.0.2 (64-Bit)...


TL

Full being 3 drivers, Lan, Sata raid, and USB 3.1 for Win 7 64, just 3, no chipset or other drivers, unless one has 10, then one gets everything, yes I'd been there. No Wlan, No Chipset, and No Audio for Windows 7 64bit and it's not even 2020.

Win 7 64bit

Win 10 64bit

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H'mmm ... Had some thoughts better I don't publish, other than that don't tell people of your difficulties when you struggle, then proceed to do it anyway..