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Message 1969019 - Posted: 6 Dec 2018, 22:40:26 UTC - in response to Message 1968956.  

Greetings Jord
No, no, I fell for that the last time around, ain't doing it now.

@JC4:
Have asked for and been refunded JC4, after playing it for an eye-watering hour and a half. If you're still unsure, do read this review and reconsider. As long as developers are allowed by the GP to release crap like this, they'll never learn.
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Message 1969296 - Posted: 8 Dec 2018, 10:00:26 UTC

https://www.techradar.com/news/microsoft-halts-yet-another-windows-10-update-after-blue-screen-of-death-errors

Microsoft’s Windows 10 update woes are continuing, with the company having to halt the recent Windows 10 November 2018 cumulative update (KB4467682) after reports it was causing PCs to crash and display the infamous ‘Blue Screen of Death’.

At first, the errors appeared to only affect the Surface Book 2, Microsoft’s own hardware, which lead to the company halting the update for those devices.

However, Microsoft has now revealed that the problem is more widespread, and it has now pulled the update from all devices.

In a new support post, Microsoft explains that “After installing this optional update some users have reported getting a blue or black screen with error code, “System thread exception not handled.” As a precaution, we have removed this optional update from Windows Update and Microsoft Update Catalog to protect customers.”
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Message 1969811 - Posted: 10 Dec 2018, 20:36:23 UTC

As a precaution, we have removed this optional update from Windows Update and Microsoft Update Catalog to protect customers.”
......translation....."We're trying desperately to cover our asses".........

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Message 1969824 - Posted: 10 Dec 2018, 21:39:12 UTC

Latest news, read all about it!
https://www.howtogeek.com/fyi/windows-10-sends-your-activity-history-to-microsoft-even-if-you-tell-it-not-to/

Windows 10 collects an “Activity History” of applications you launch on your PC and sends it to Microsoft. Even if you disable or clear this, Microsoft’s Privacy Dashboard still shows an “Activity History” of applications you’ve launched on your PCs.
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Message 1969840 - Posted: 10 Dec 2018, 22:52:45 UTC - in response to Message 1969824.  

Latest news, read all about it!
https://www.howtogeek.com/fyi/windows-10-sends-your-activity-history-to-microsoft-even-if-you-tell-it-not-to/

Windows 10 collects an “Activity History” of applications you launch on your PC and sends it to Microsoft. Even if you disable or clear this, Microsoft’s Privacy Dashboard still shows an “Activity History” of applications you’ve launched on your PCs.

Hi Jord,

Ok, I did not have it set on my PC and I do NOT have an account on Micro$oft servers. Is the data they get from me anonymous? Or do they even get any of the history activity from me?

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Message 1970000 - Posted: 12 Dec 2018, 13:55:38 UTC
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In this week of yet another week of the never-ending Microsoft bug-fixes-plus-added-bugs and 'new features' patch Tuesday patchset...

Upon my logging onto a certain system that includes the very old and venerable but still current "fortune", there didst appear through the crystal shutters of my now much more modern flat panel display, an apt and now prophetic utterance that once adorned the old glowing phosphors of the CRTs of many days long gone by:


I used to be interested in Windows NT, but the more I see of it the more
it looks like traditional Windows with a stabler kernel. I don't find
anything technically interesting there. In my opinion MS is a lot better
at making money than it is at making good operating systems.

   -- Linus Torvalds



How times move on?

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Message 1970159 - Posted: 13 Dec 2018, 17:45:10 UTC - in response to Message 1969824.  
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Latest news, read all about it!
https://www.howtogeek.com/fyi/windows-10-sends-your-activity-history-to-microsoft-even-if-you-tell-it-not-to/

Windows 10 collects an “Activity History” of applications you launch on your PC and sends it to Microsoft. Even if you disable or clear this, Microsoft’s Privacy Dashboard still shows an “Activity History” of applications you’ve launched on your PCs.

Yep... The Register have picked up on that:


Windows 10 can carry on slurping even when you're sure you yelled STOP!

All your activity are belong to us

... In what is likely to be more cock-up than conspiracy, it appears that Microsoft is continuing to collect data on recent user activities even when the user has explicitly said NO...

... Deliberate slurpage, or a case of poor QA and one team not talking to the other aside, it isn't a great look for Microsoft...

... Microsoft got in touch to insist it is committed to privacy and transparency, but admitted there is indeed a bit of naming problem ... Marisa Rogers, Privacy Officer at the software giant, told us: "We are working to address this naming issue in a future update." The slurpage collection is of course for your benefit and Rogers added that users have "controls to manage your data."...



Well! I be damned!! Darn and drat and double drat 'n' all that...!

So... Is this an example of:

    * Malevolence?
    * Incompetence?
    * Dumb uncontrolled uncoordinated shoddiness?
    * Incoherent unmaintainability?
    * Or something else??



What can you believe?!


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Message 1970167 - Posted: 13 Dec 2018, 19:21:15 UTC - in response to Message 1970159.  

Latest news, read all about it!
https://www.howtogeek.com/fyi/windows-10-sends-your-activity-history-to-microsoft-even-if-you-tell-it-not-to/

Windows 10 collects an “Activity History” of applications you launch on your PC and sends it to Microsoft. Even if you disable or clear this, Microsoft’s Privacy Dashboard still shows an “Activity History” of applications you’ve launched on your PCs.
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Well! I be damned!! Darn and drat and double drat 'n' all that...!

So... Is this an example of:

    * Malevolence?
    * Incompetence?
    * Dumb uncontrolled uncoordinated shoddiness?
    * Incoherent unmaintainability?
    * Or something else??



What can you believe?!


IT is what we make it...
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Hi Martin,


    * Malevolence?
    * Incompetence?
    * Dumb uncontrolled uncoordinated shoddiness?
    * Incoherent unmaintainability?
    Answer? All of the above.


Micro$oft is evil, we all know that. I wonder what Privacy lawyers are going to be able to do against Micro$oft. They cannot do class actions and I doubt that even Elon Musk has enough money to go after Micro$oft.

We'll just have to wait and see if the US Government will step in... once again.

Have a great day! :)

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Message 1970181 - Posted: 13 Dec 2018, 20:36:10 UTC

Micro$oft is evil, we all know that. I wonder what Privacy lawyers are going to be able to do against Micro$oft. They cannot do class actions and I doubt that even Elon Musk has enough money to go after Micro$oft.

We'll just have to wait and see if the US Government will step in... once again.

MS, as Apple, Facebook, Amazon and all other modern and huge corporations. Appear to be similar to the 19th Century Capitalist Trusts which controlled too much.

The Trust were broken up back then. We need to do it again.

... Microsoft got in touch to insist it is committed to privacy and transparency, but admitted there is indeed a bit of naming problem ... Marisa Rogers, Privacy Officer at the software giant, told us: "We are working to address this naming issue in a future update." The slurpage collection is of course for your benefit and Rogers added that users have "controls to manage your data."...

Just change the name but still keep their ability?

Does anyone have a 'good' name?
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Message 1970190 - Posted: 13 Dec 2018, 21:52:27 UTC

Never attribute to Malice that which can be explained by Incompetence and Laziness.
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Message 1970212 - Posted: 13 Dec 2018, 23:47:12 UTC

It all boils down to Micro$uck again living up to it's vile reputation.....so glad I 'Just said No' to Win10.

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Message 1970227 - Posted: 14 Dec 2018, 0:27:18 UTC - in response to Message 1970212.  
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It all boils down to Micro$uck again living up to it's vile reputation.....so glad I 'Just said No' to Win10.

We have one Win 10 system. The rest are Win 7.

All I can say about Win 10 is ___ and ___ and ___ and ___.

Well, just fill-in the curses.
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Message 1970230 - Posted: 14 Dec 2018, 1:02:01 UTC - in response to Message 1970227.  
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We have one Win 10 system. The rest are Win 7.

All I can say about Win 10 is ___ and ___ and ___ and ___.

Well, just fill-in the curses.

May your PCs live in "Interesting Times"?

(Sorry, couldn't resist! :-P )

IT is what we suffer from who we choose to suffer?...


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Message 1970232 - Posted: 14 Dec 2018, 1:04:36 UTC - in response to Message 1970190.  
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Never attribute to Malice that which can be explained by Incompetence and Laziness.

... And Marketing and Greed and (greedy cost cutting for a false cheapness and...) the users be damned?...


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Message 1970233 - Posted: 14 Dec 2018, 1:11:42 UTC - in response to Message 1970159.  
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... Windows 10 can carry on slurping even when you're sure you yelled STOP!

All your activity are belong to us

... In what is likely to be more cock-up than conspiracy, it appears that Microsoft is continuing to collect data on recent user activities even when the user has explicitly said NO...

... Deliberate slurpage, or a case of poor QA and one team not talking to the other aside, it isn't a great look for Microsoft...

... Microsoft got in touch to insist it is committed to privacy and transparency, but admitted there is indeed a bit of naming problem ... Marisa Rogers, Privacy Officer at the software giant, told us: "We are working to address this naming issue in a future update." The slurpage collection is of course for your benefit and Rogers added that users have "controls to manage your data."...


...

From that article, the magic names to invoke are:

As for turning the thing off, Microsoft confirmed that, yes, you have to go to two places to actually stop your Activity History being shared with Redmond:
1. Under Settings->Privacy->Activity history: ensure the setting "Let Windows sync my activities from this PC to the cloud" is not checked

2. Under Settings->Privacy->Diagnostics & feedback: ensure Diagnostic data is set to Basic


Phew! Is that clear?

Can you imagine that stops Microsoft sucking up your private and personal data? Or worse?

What can you believe?!


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Message 1970235 - Posted: 14 Dec 2018, 1:29:21 UTC

All I want is the use of my mouse back, is that too much to ask for? W10 updates keep breaking it and this last couple of times I have not been able to recover.
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Message 1970287 - Posted: 14 Dec 2018, 11:43:30 UTC

https://lifehacker.com/windows-10-collects-activity-data-even-when-tracking-is-1831054394 has a blocking workaround for the problem, while the rest waits for Microsoft to fix it (whenever).
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Message 1970339 - Posted: 14 Dec 2018, 18:29:39 UTC

Can you imagine that stops Microsoft sucking up your private and personal data? Or worse?

What can you believe?!
As Clyde, I only have one device afflicted with the 'Curse of 10', a Surface I purchased from a batch advertised as running 8.1, and through that 'Limited' experience with 10........"What can I believe?".......from a company who has the audacity to invade my home at night, start a device and use it in turn and the network connection I pay for, to broadcast data to other devices?..........I believe nothing.

Sooner or later(hopefully the former) they're gonna piss off enough people or governments to have a hammer brought down that will make the IE ruling look like Sesame Street.

Karma will out.....

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Message 1970353 - Posted: 14 Dec 2018, 20:02:45 UTC - in response to Message 1970339.  

Can you imagine that stops Microsoft sucking up your private and personal data? Or worse?

What can you believe?!
As Clyde, I only have one device afflicted with the 'Curse of 10', a Surface I purchased from a batch advertised as running 8.1, and through that 'Limited' experience with 10........"What can I believe?".......from a company who has the audacity to invade my home at night, start a device and use it in turn and the network connection I pay for, to broadcast data to other devices?..........I believe nothing.

Sooner or later(hopefully the former) they're gonna piss off enough people or governments to have a hammer brought down that will make the IE ruling look like Sesame Street.

Karma will out.....

Hi JE,

A very BIG +1.

Have a great day! :)

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Message 1970429 - Posted: 15 Dec 2018, 6:13:11 UTC

1809 just TRIED to Update to my Dad's Desktop, (Farragut - i7 7700, Gigabyte GA-H270-HD3 MOBO, 16GB Corsair Vengeance CL14 DDR4 RAM, Integrated Intel HD630 GPU), System. I fought with Win Update Settings and FORCED this to "Pause" 'til January 19, 2009!!! :-)

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