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Grant (SSSF) Send message Joined: 19 Aug 99 Posts: 13736 Credit: 208,696,464 RAC: 304 |
I started out Cuda50 running 3 tasks/GPU, as I have forever. Then ran 3/gpu Sog for a bit (hence the long run times). Now down to 2 tasks/gpu and have 1 AP running on the CPU I'm trying to get pushed through. The 2 GPU tasks running in parallel, 1 is with default tuning, the second is with your suggested tuning. Watching to see how that performs, then see how the box does with 2/ tuned, watch for restarts, and will later back that down to 1/ for comparison. With low power GPUs, the only advantage of running 2 at a time is that the 15-20sec startup time where the GPU isn't crunching yet is offset by the other WU that is being processed. Overall, the GPU output is about the same as 1 at a time, except you loose the output from that second CPU core that's required. So the end result is (slightly) less WUs per hour. The big advantage of 1 at t time is that you never get a mix of WUs on the 1 GPU- ie 1 GBT and 1 Arecibo. When that happens, the Arecibo crunching time can be as much as triple it's usual run time. Grant Darwin NT |
Jimbocous Send message Joined: 1 Apr 13 Posts: 1853 Credit: 268,616,081 RAC: 1,349 |
With low power GPUs, the only advantage of running 2 at a time is that the 15-20sec startup time where the GPU isn't crunching yet is offset by the other WU that is being processed. Overall, the GPU output is about the same as 1 at a time, except you loose the output from that second CPU core that's required. So the end result is (slightly) less WUs per hour. The big advantage of 1 at t time is that you never get a mix of WUs on the 1 GPU- ie 1 GBT and 1 Arecibo. When that happens, the Arecibo crunching time can be as much as triple it's usual run time. Interesting question will be what it looks like with a mix of GPUs, as most of my boxes run 1-980 and 2-750tis, due to power/heat issues. Not aware of a way to tune each GPU individually ... |
Cliff Harding Send message Joined: 18 Aug 99 Posts: 1432 Credit: 110,967,840 RAC: 67 |
I ran into a major problem when my machine went south on 14 June. If you downloaded the FREE Win 10 pro and you have to do a major hardware upgrade, YOU CANNOT ACTIVE under the same product key as you could with Win 7. I went through multiple installs with an i7/950 & an i7/440K using the initial key. If you try you will get a NOT VALID WINDOWS message, so I had to bite the bullet and buy a USB install stick. It seems that retail OEM install DVDs that are the only ones that are available now days as they stopped with the install DVDs. I don't buy computers, I build them!! |
Wiggo Send message Joined: 24 Jan 00 Posts: 34744 Credit: 261,360,520 RAC: 489 |
I ran into a major problem when my machine went south on 14 June. If you downloaded the FREE Win 10 pro and you have to do a major hardware upgrade, YOU CANNOT ACTIVE under the same product key as you could with Win 7. I went through multiple installs with an i7/950 & an i7/440K using the initial key. If you try you will get a NOT VALID WINDOWS message, so I had to bite the bullet and buy a USB install stick. It seems that retail OEM install DVDs that are the only ones that are available now days as they stopped with the install DVDs. M$ want you to download the iso and pay for the product directly from them these days. ;-) Cheers. |
ML1 Send message Joined: 25 Nov 01 Posts: 20289 Credit: 7,508,002 RAC: 20 |
I ran into a major problem when my machine went south on 14 June. If you downloaded the FREE Win 10 pro and you have to do a major hardware upgrade, YOU CANNOT ACTIVE under the same product key as you could with Win 7. I went through multiple installs with an i7/950 & an i7/440K using the initial key. If you try you will get a NOT VALID WINDOWS message, so I had to bite the bullet and buy a USB install stick. It seems that retail OEM install DVDs that are the only ones that are available now days as they stopped with the install DVDs. Go clean and Linux! Works very well... No need for the incessent upgrade jingoism!! Happy carefree crunchin', Martin See new freedom: Mageia Linux Take a look for yourself: Linux Format The Future is what We all make IT (GPLv3) |
tullio Send message Joined: 9 Apr 04 Posts: 8797 Credit: 2,930,782 RAC: 1 |
I am getting regular kernel security upgrades from OpenSuSE, after which I have two reboot my two Linux boxes. But once they sent me a whole new OS, Tumbleweed, which resulted in canceling the contains of a USB cartridge in which I had saved personal data. I am now struggling with the Creators Update on my Windows 10 PC, which goes on rebooting. I have run all UEFI tests provided by HP on a Pavilion 152-ea, which is immaculate from a HW point of view. It runs SETI@home GPU tasks on its GTX 1050 Ti board. Tullio |
ML1 Send message Joined: 25 Nov 01 Posts: 20289 Credit: 7,508,002 RAC: 20 |
Really, the 'next' Windows 10 gets to be yet again more secure (or less holey)???... Microsoft: We'll beef up security in Windows 10 Creators Edition Fall Update EMETs? I've had a few The next big update to Windows 10 Creators Edition is out in the Fall – and Redmond is hyping up its security chops... Go for it? Martin See new freedom: Mageia Linux Take a look for yourself: Linux Format The Future is what We all make IT (GPLv3) |
ML1 Send message Joined: 25 Nov 01 Posts: 20289 Credit: 7,508,002 RAC: 20 |
If you are a Skyper: Damned if you do and damned if you don't: Make sure your Skype is up to date because FYI there's a nasty hole in it Nothing to see here, says Microsoft, just more crappy code Infosec researchers have discovered a nasty and exploitable security vulnerability in older versions of Skype on Windows... ... on Windows XP, Windows 7, Windows 8 and Windows 10. In Skype v7.37 the vulnerability is patched... Microsoft recommends you ignore Microsoft-recommended update ... waves at customers saying 'don't break Skype' Earlier this month, Microsoft gave the world .NET Framework 4.7 and urged users to install it for the usual reasons: more fun bits to play with and security improvements. But two days later the company urged Exchange users not to install it ASAP... Microsoft says Skype outages are over – a few hours too early Global Skype outages spill over onto a second day... Regardless of who or how, this sort of thing really badly just so lowers everyones' expectations that the whole of the IT world is regardless just branded by all users as a total fail. Reboot yet again and try again? How many hours have we all suffered with that one?! IT is what we allow it to be... Martin See new freedom: Mageia Linux Take a look for yourself: Linux Format The Future is what We all make IT (GPLv3) |
JaundicedEye Send message Joined: 14 Mar 12 Posts: 5375 Credit: 30,870,693 RAC: 1 |
Just noticed M$ is still trying to push KB2976978 in the updates............I don't think so. The only device I have running Win10 is my Tablet and I hate it.............much prefer 7 or 8.1 and will live in those environments until they pry my cold dead fingers from the keyboard.............." : | "Sour Grapes make a bitter Whine." <(0)> |
Tom M Send message Joined: 28 Nov 02 Posts: 5124 Credit: 276,046,078 RAC: 462 |
Interesting question will be what it looks like with a mix of GPUs, as most of my boxes run 1-980 and 2-750tis, due to power/heat issues. Not aware of a way to tune each GPU individually ... You are supposed to be able to do that tuning individually in both stock seti and in Lunatics. Its in the mb*sog readme. Search for "For device-specific settings in multi-GPU systems". I have not been able to convince myself that it works either in stock seti or when you add it to the "app_info.xml" file in Lunatics Distro. Had a thread going here. http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=81597 In theory, the stock seti setup isn't "tricky" but I couldn't convince myself I had gotten it working. Then the need to run the Gtx 1060 / Gtx 750 Ti went away so I no longer even have a motivation to try. Integrating it into the Lunatic's app_info.xml file is tricky and detailed oriented. It helps a lot if you actually understand the xml code forward and backwards. I hope someone can both get it to work and make a convincing report of it working. I wish you well. Tom A proud member of the OFA (Old Farts Association). |
Jimbocous Send message Joined: 1 Apr 13 Posts: 1853 Credit: 268,616,081 RAC: 1,349 |
Interesting question will be what it looks like with a mix of GPUs, as most of my boxes run 1-980 and 2-750tis, due to power/heat issues. Not aware of a way to tune each GPU individually ... Suppose I should get after that at some point. In a bit of a drought here, due to being down from 5 crunchers to 2 due to a combination of excess summer power charges and hardware issues, and not really motivated at the moment. Last few times I've touched anything has been a disaster, so I'm waiting for the bad karma to dissipate :) |
Al Send message Joined: 3 Apr 99 Posts: 1682 Credit: 477,343,364 RAC: 482 |
And if there weren't enough reasons to love Win 10, here's yet another one: Microsoft cuts off Windows 10 support early for some PCs Get out the flyswatter, MS, and just keep smashing those bugs... *rolleyes* |
ML1 Send message Joined: 25 Nov 01 Posts: 20289 Credit: 7,508,002 RAC: 20 |
And if there weren't enough reasons to love Win 10, here's yet another one: Also cut for those few on all but the latest even fewer Windows Phones: Got a Windows Phone 8 mobe? It's now officially obsolete. Here's why... Microsoft pulls the plug on support for dedicated smartphone OS... ... this is by no means the end of Microsoft's support for mobile phones. Microsoft continues to sell three different models of Lumia phones as branded devices, and Redmond has maintained that Windows 10 Mobile will be part of the planned "OneCore" platform strategy going forward. Note the "Windows 10 Mobile will be part of the planned "OneCore" platform strategy going forward"... Be ready for change?... A curious radical change and a non-change are: Ubuntu Linux now on Windows Store Microsoft finally confirmed that Hell has indeed frozen over – Ubuntu is at long last available from the Windows Store... Get out the flyswatter, MS, and just keep smashing those bugs... *rolleyes* Yep. We have Microsoft as usual... Would you trust your own eyes to such fell strangeness?... It's July 2017 – and your expensive HoloLens can be pwned over Wi-Fi Patch Tuesday Microsoft's HoloLens may only be in the hands of developers, but that hasn't stopped researchers from finding major security holes in the augmented reality headset. Critical fixes for HoloLens were among the 57 CVE-listed flaws Redmond had to address in this month's edition of Patch Tuesday. Of the 57 bugs blasted in various Microsoft products, 19 are listed as critical and 24 could potentially allow for remote code execution. Four vulnerabilities were disclosed publicly before today's patches landed, but none are being targeted in the wild at the moment... What a strange mix! IT is what we make it... Martin See new freedom: Mageia Linux Take a look for yourself: Linux Format The Future is what We all make IT (GPLv3) |
Dr Who Fan Send message Joined: 8 Jan 01 Posts: 3213 Credit: 715,342 RAC: 4 |
Microsoft Paint and other apps are going to be discontinued by Windows 10’s Next Update Microsoft is dropping various features and functionalities from its new build. In preparation for the release of the Fall Creators Update, Microsoft has published the full list of stories that will be removed or depreciated from the new build. |
JaundicedEye Send message Joined: 14 Mar 12 Posts: 5375 Credit: 30,870,693 RAC: 1 |
The wind doesn't blow in Redmond Washington.................it sucks! "Sour Grapes make a bitter Whine." <(0)> |
Dr Who Fan Send message Joined: 8 Jan 01 Posts: 3213 Credit: 715,342 RAC: 4 |
More "bad" news from micro$haft .... They just seem to want to p1$$ off their user base! Windows 10 is making too many PCs obsolete Windows 10 will be supported until Oct. 14, 2025 — unless your computer has a Clover Trail CPU. Then you’re out of luck. Microsoft released its latest Windows 10 update earlier this year. The name, Creators Update,makes it sound bigger than it is; it’s really a minor step forward. But about 10 million Windows 10 customers have to face up to an unpleasant surprise: Their machines can’t update to Creators Update. |
Siran d'Vel'nahr Send message Joined: 23 May 99 Posts: 7379 Credit: 44,181,323 RAC: 238 |
More "bad" news from micro$haft .... They just seem to want to p1$$ off their user base! Greetings, Oops! Seems Computer World needs to work on their website. :| Have a great day! :) CAPT Siran d'Vel'nahr - L L & P _\\// Winders 11 OS? "What a piece of junk!" - L. Skywalker "Logic is the cement of our civilization with which we ascend from chaos using reason as our guide." - T'Plana-hath |
Dr Who Fan Send message Joined: 8 Jan 01 Posts: 3213 Credit: 715,342 RAC: 4 |
Oops! Yep! Chrome thinks it's malicious also: This server could not prove that it is www.computerworld.com; its security certificate is from *.e.ssl.fastly.net. This may be caused by a misconfiguration or an attacker intercepting your connection. --------- Now M$ must of had a (slight) change of heart on MSPaint...: https://www.theverge.com/2017/7/25/16024356/microsoft-paint-windows-store-app Microsoft Paint isn't dead yet, will live in the Windows Store for free ... |
ML1 Send message Joined: 25 Nov 01 Posts: 20289 Credit: 7,508,002 RAC: 20 |
... Now M$ must of had a (slight) change of heart on MSPaint...: Or... All a game of some very clever coercive Marketing that has bagged some free headlines for the last few days to announce a trivial update and to 'encourage' users to 'enjoy' the 'experience' of creating an account and logging into the "Windows Store Experience" all just to be able to continue using their own systems?... You WILL be dragged (screaming or blinded or otherwise) into the 'Microsoft World'(tm) of the 'Microsoft Cloud'(tm) and the 'Microsoft Store'(tm)... Good luck?... Or... Is there any other way? IT is what we allow it to be... Martin See new freedom: Mageia Linux Take a look for yourself: Linux Format The Future is what We all make IT (GPLv3) |
Dr Who Fan Send message Joined: 8 Jan 01 Posts: 3213 Credit: 715,342 RAC: 4 |
New Windows 10 Changes Revealed The next Windows 10 update will make shutting down or restarting a computer a smoother process. It will also make it slightly easier to switch back and forth between a phone and a computer. |
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