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Message 1704133 - Posted: 22 Jul 2015, 21:57:51 UTC

LOL, today looking on the TV server - the only system I allowed those updates for W10 on thus far - I found it's running a process called GWX.exe, one you cannot easily stop.

It's the Get Windows 10 ad-spammer, which includes that white button.
People have found ways though to get rid of it. Although version two will make sure I think that you won't get Windows 10 at all.

But, just so you know that in case you do want all updates on your computer, but do not want W10, there's ways.
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Message 1704177 - Posted: 23 Jul 2015, 4:42:53 UTC - in response to Message 1703986.  

Hi Siran,
I still have Dr DOS and it works on my system.

MS was a naughty boy! Digital Research was OK.

DR-DOS

MS-DOS was a hack of QDOS. Wasn't even original to 'Micro-soft' back then...

Keep on BOINCing...! :)

Wasn't even Bill Gates property, he only got the rights to QDOS 'AFTER' he sold MS Dos 1 to IBM...
cheek of the devil eh?

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Message 1705211 - Posted: 26 Jul 2015, 10:49:36 UTC

No SP's for Win 10

Found this bit interesting.

"The primary reason for this is that Windows Updates will be automatically downloaded for most users without choice as to which updates they want installed. This applies to Windows 10 Home editions, whereas Pro editions and higher allow more flexibility".
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Message 1705571 - Posted: 27 Jul 2015, 12:41:01 UTC - in response to Message 1705463.  

Further updates are in the works (already)

Before Windows 10 has even launched, Microsoft's upgrade plans for the OS have leaked. Most recently, Neowin reports that wave 2 of Threshold, the long-standing codename for Windows 10, will land this October. However, this update will reportedly focus on optimizing and stabilizing the operating system. If you're already holding out for some major changes, expect to hold out for quite some time.

According to an earlier Neowin report, the first major update will come June 2016 and the other October of next year, with Microsoft operating under the codename Redstone. That said, I would expect that timing to change. A whopping 11 months is quite a long time before issuing features that were cut from the initial Windows 10 release.

Microsoft recently clarified that statement with specific figures: Windows 10 will be supported with new features and updates until October 13, 2020. Extended support, e.g. security patches, will carry on until October 14, 2025. This seems to apply to both Windows 10 on desktop and Windows 10 Mobile.


Win 10

As of Friday our contact to MS indicated that MS still does not have a release date for Windows 10 Mobile. Nor did they indicate which devices will currently support updating to Windows 10 Mobile. Which was our actual inquiry.
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Message 1705574 - Posted: 27 Jul 2015, 12:52:17 UTC - in response to Message 1705568.  
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8 Reasons Not to Upgrade to Windows 10

".....The first version is almost always buggy

Despite Microsoft’s best efforts at collecting feedback from early adopters through its extensive Windows 10 technical preview process, bugs and other issues are still going to surface in the launch-day version of the new OS.

Let others be the guinea pigs, and wait until the bugs are ironed out. You’ll thank yourself in the long run."

oh, just forget what I said...

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Message 1706013 - Posted: 28 Jul 2015, 16:01:56 UTC

Ready to install it on one of my systems. I understand you have to click No on all the initial questions, or else Windows will install all its apps with all the privacy tracking set default to On.

Am done with making the backup of present Windows 7.
I only still have to figure out the Administrator password and reset the user's password. Because we don't know either, and the latter is auto-login.

But other than that, ready. :)
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Message 1706020 - Posted: 28 Jul 2015, 16:06:18 UTC - in response to Message 1706013.  

I only still have to figure out the Administrator password and reset the user's password. Because we don't know either, and the latter is auto-login

Try rummaging around in HKLM\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\Winlogon and see if you can pick up anything in there.
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Message 1706028 - Posted: 28 Jul 2015, 20:08:48 UTC - in response to Message 1706013.  

The outage started before I got a chance to edit my post and add that running "netplwiz" might also help you reset passwords.
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Message 1706062 - Posted: 28 Jul 2015, 21:17:58 UTC - in response to Message 1706028.  

I've got a USB stick with a Linux boot drive running Ophcrack: http://ophcrack.sourceforge.net/
I also have another Linux USB stick through which I can try to run with Chntpw.
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Message 1706079 - Posted: 28 Jul 2015, 22:03:30 UTC

m$ has taken away the ability to choose not to install updates so machines will randomly reboot at night and waste time that could be used crunching
I came down with a bad case of i don't give a crap
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Message 1706112 - Posted: 28 Jul 2015, 23:26:33 UTC - in response to Message 1706079.  

m$ has taken away the ability to choose not to install updates so machines will randomly reboot at night and waste time that could be used crunching


That's only on the Home version. In the Pro version you can still choose not to install updates. Even then, you could simply edit the registry to auto-login to a user account and resume crunching right after reboot.
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Message 1706114 - Posted: 28 Jul 2015, 23:33:10 UTC

I stand Corrected ...Thnx for the info
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Message 1706118 - Posted: 28 Jul 2015, 23:45:29 UTC
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The Register has its fun:


Microsoft plays whack-a-mole with Windows 10 bugs – with just TWO days left on the clock

What's the big deal about a little crash here and there?

... Build 10240, which was released to the Windows Insider program two weeks ago, is widely considered to be the "release to manufacturing" (RTM) build, even though Redmond itself says the RTM concept doesn't apply in its brave new world of Windows as a Service.

Yet if that's the build that hardware OEMs are using to create disk images for their new devices, customers who pick up new Windows 10 PCs and tablets should expect to have a few downloads waiting for them when they first fire them up.

A number of nagging bugs have cropped up in the last few days that have some Windows 10 testers scratching their heads at just how an OS this raw can be considered production-ready...



Watch the download servers suffer a self sustained DDOS?...

Here's watching!


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Message 1706119 - Posted: 28 Jul 2015, 23:48:16 UTC - in response to Message 1706062.  
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Well, in the end I found the password by trying out combinations of what my clue could contain. And the main administrator on that system wasn't activated yet. So will leave that as is, have written down the main login and password. :)
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Message 1706120 - Posted: 28 Jul 2015, 23:48:47 UTC - in response to Message 1706112.  

m$ has taken away the ability to choose not to install updates so machines will randomly reboot at night and waste time that could be used crunching


That's only on the Home version. In the Pro version you can still choose not to install updates. Even then, you could simply edit the registry to auto-login to a user account and resume crunching right after reboot.


And there will most likely be a fix for for home users soon as well.

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Message 1706123 - Posted: 29 Jul 2015, 0:16:19 UTC

I read something in one of the many links to articles from this thread that the actual auto-update scenario is this:

Home - automatic, user has no control or say.
Pro - Can be deferred for up to 180 days, but all updates will eventually install.
Enterprise - Can entirely opt out of specific updates altogether, deferring them indefinitely.
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Message 1706125 - Posted: 29 Jul 2015, 0:36:39 UTC

not a big windows fan but their new it's free tactic is great.....give it a year and the new tune will be : Now fork out 199$ a year or you loose your stuff


ransomware anyone?
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Message 1706130 - Posted: 29 Jul 2015, 1:18:10 UTC - in response to Message 1706120.  



And there will most likely be a fix for for home users soon as well.


I read in my Tech Updates that there is a hidden Windows 10 feature to hide or ignore mandatory Windows 10 updates. Applies to both Home Premium and Pro. Its via a KB3073930 package which allows you to block specific Windows Updates. Could come in handy to prevent Windows 10 from installing back-levelled graphics drivers for instance.
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Message 1706132 - Posted: 29 Jul 2015, 1:50:48 UTC - in response to Message 1706125.  

not a big windows fan but their new it's free tactic is great.....give it a year and the new tune will be : Now fork out 199$ a year or you loose your stuff


ransomware anyone?


No, if you read the entire thread, that's already been covered. Microsoft has already announced that Windows 10 will be free for all supported versions of Windows 7, 8, and 8.1 for the life of the device you register it on. "The life of the device" has still yet to be defined as it is a bit ambiguous.

There is no bait and switch. They will not be charging a yearly fee after the free upgrade. They may eventually offer a pay-as-you-go version like Office 365, but that has yet to be announced.
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Message 1706140 - Posted: 29 Jul 2015, 3:14:13 UTC

They will get us somehow
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