Hmmm I got a critical update to all 3 of my systems last night, followed by an important one this morning. The critical last night all seemed to go OK. Not so today...

The 2 Win 7 Intel systems running S@H upgraded OK (& needed a reboot),

The AMD Win 8.1 laptop, seemed to install OK,& shut down OK, but just sat at a blank screen after coming out of POST & BIOS for about 25 Mins, & wouldn't respond to any kets except the long hold on the power button. When I rebooted it, it did the same so I pulled power and the battery, then tried to restart & this time it went into the recovery mode, so I selected to roll back to last night. This went OK.

Win update then offered the important update again, so I tried again. This time it seemed to go in OK, but the blank screen only lasted about 2 or 3 mins after the reboor this time. The laptop seems OK for now. normally on boot the "blank" screen only lasts about 3 or 5 seconds.

Sorry for the long story, but I wanted to be complete.

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Happy Crunching,

Graham

For those thinking of upgrading to Window 10 Computer World has this article out today:
9 reasons not to upgrade to Windows 10 -- yet

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Hi,
Critical update was to fix bug relating to fonts that would allow remote control of users computer. Bug came to light after recent hack of company dealing with spyware for assorted Govts..

I've had my rigs get it, no problems after reboot on AMD rigs.
BTW that's the 2nd font related bug to be patched..

Regards,

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Cliff,
Been there, Done that, Still no damm T shirt!

the mind boggles ... stupid fonts!!! ( *shakes fist* )

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"Living by the wisdom of computer science doesn't sound so bad after all. And unlike most advice, it's backed up by proofs." -- Algorithms to live by: The computer science of human decisions.

the mind boggles ... stupid fonts!!! ( *shakes fist* )

This is why I just stick with Comic Sans for everything.

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the mind boggles ... stupid fonts!!! ( *shakes fist* )

This is why I just stick with Comic Sans for everything.

I bet it's those crazy wingdings upsetting the whole thing

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"Living by the wisdom of computer science doesn't sound so bad after all. And unlike most advice, it's backed up by proofs." -- Algorithms to live by: The computer science of human decisions.

Found a great copy of Windows NT 3.51 on there for cheap.

Need any NT 4.0?

If I still have it and can find it.

Found a great copy of Windows NT 3.51 on there for cheap.

Need any NT 4.0?

If I still have it and can find it.

Already got it! Along with DOS 6.22 and Windows 3.11.



At least they're not on 5.25" disks. (I still have a bunch of that stuff, too!)

Interesting, if compatibility still keeped on modern PCs? Can modern PC with EFI boot into MS-DOS ?...

Found a great copy of Windows NT 3.51 on there for cheap.

Need any NT 4.0?

If I still have it and can find it.

Thanks, but no. I already own NT 4.0 Workstation and Server. At this point what I'm really looking for my collection is an original IBM PC (or compatible), but I want one with a hard drive and full 640K/1MB of RAM, and perhaps MS or PC DOS 1.x/2.x.

Interesting, if compatibility still keeped on modern PCs? Can modern PC with EFI boot into MS-DOS ?...

I still have Dr DOS and it works on my system.

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With each crime and every kindness we birth our future.

Interesting, if compatibility still keeped on modern PCs? Can modern PC with EFI boot into MS-DOS ?...

So long as the system supports UEFI & BIOS it can run MS-DOS.
I have a new system at work that only supports UEFI. Which was a bit of an issue. As our normal disk image method is booting MS-DOS to run Norton Ghost. Now I've had to make a Windows PE boot disk with ghost32 on it. It takes longer to load the OS to run ghost & there are a few other issues that make it less convenient as well.

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For those thinking of upgrading to Window 10 Computer World has this article out today:
9 reasons not to upgrade to Windows 10 -- yet

Greetings Dr,

I narrowed that list down to 1 item: Early Adoption. I have not been an early adoption person when it comes to Windows. In this case, it's the 'free' that has me looking hard at it. I normally wait about 2 years before upgrading. The other 8 on the list? Nah, no biggy. ;)

I'll play with it for a few months on my laptop and if I deem it good-to-go for my main PC, I'll upgrade it then. My laptop is older tech, bought back in '06. The PC is almost all new tech. The HDDs are the oldest and they are only 5 years old. Oh, and the RAM is about 5 years old too, but I plan on upgrading it this month. :)

Keep on BOINCing...! :)

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Windows 10's decade of support starts when customer begins using the OS

Huge change will eliminate traditional form of support -- with set retirement dates -- for all editions except Windows 10 Enterprise, says analyst

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I still have Dr DOS and it works on my system.

MS was a naughty boy! Digital Research was OK.

DR-DOS

MS-DOS was a hack of QDOS. Wasn't even original to 'Micro-soft' back then...

Keep on BOINCing...! :)

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Winders 11 OS? "What a piece of junk!" - L. Skywalker
"Logic is the cement of our civilization with which we ascend from chaos using reason as our guide." - T'Plana-hath

I still have Dr DOS and it works on my system.

MS was a naughty boy! Digital Research was OK.

DR-DOS

MS-DOS was a hack of QDOS. Wasn't even original to 'Micro-soft' back then...

Keep on BOINCing...! :)

Actually... Microsoft bought QDOS / 86DOS off Seattle Computer Products. It wasn't a hack, it was QDOS with some feature additions and changes.

I still have Dr DOS and it works on my system.

MS was a naughty boy! Digital Research was OK.

DR-DOS

MS-DOS was a hack of QDOS. Wasn't even original to 'Micro-soft' back then...

Keep on BOINCing...! :)

Actually... Microsoft bought QDOS / 86DOS off Seattle Computer Products. It wasn't a hack, it was QDOS with some feature additions and changes.

Greetings Ozz,

True enough. I just call it a hack because Gates made a deal with IBM and couldn't meet the deadline with out getting something that was NOT of his making and modifying it to 'look' like it was from him.

Windows was a hack as well. It was a hack of Apple Lisa, as I understand it. Well, more like a reverse engineering... ;)

Keep on BOINCing...! :)

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"Logic is the cement of our civilization with which we ascend from chaos using reason as our guide." - T'Plana-hath

Windows was a hack as well. It was a hack of Apple Lisa, as I understand it. Well, more like a reverse engineering... ;)

Well then to be consistent you should call the Apple Lisa a hack of the Xerox Star. ;)

True enough. I just call it a hack because Gates made a deal with IBM and couldn't meet the deadline with out getting something that was NOT of his making and modifying it to 'look' like it was from him.

Also, this isn't entirely true. IBM approached Gates of Microsoft for an Operating System on their "new" IBM PC, of which Microsoft was already going to provide their BASIC interpreter. Gates recommended Kildall's CP/M since it was the dominant standard for Intel's 8bit CPUs, which IBM planned to use a successor to that chip, so porting the OS to 16bit DOS wouldn't be that hard, and most software would be object-oriented compatible as well, requiring nothing more than a simple re-compiling of the source code.

When Kildall refused to sell, IBM started a panic to get an OS started for the release. IBM went back to Gates again asking for a solution, and Gates knew Tim Paterson had a CP/M clone called QDOS, later renamed to 86DOS. Rather than risk being turned down once again because everyone was afraid of Big Blue getting into the game, Microsoft offered to buy 86DOS off Seattle Computer Products outright.

But Microsoft / Gates wasn't under pressure to come up with a solution. IBM was. Microsoft was just less-than-truthful about who their client was and what they were going to do with the software.

... Windows was a hack as well. It was a hack of Apple Lisa, as I understand it. Well, more like a reverse engineering... ;) ...

And many years later we are coming round to something of a mixed bag of coloured advertisement pains tiles:


Windows 10 Mobile: Flaws, confusion, and going nowhere fast

... After five years, the radical design experiment of Windows Phone is being killed off; Windows on phones is being subsumed into Windows 10...

... Looking over my review notes, I’m struck how much the Windows 10 experiences have in common – for the same words and phrases keep cropping up, such as “promising”, “generally r.direction”, “WTF?” and “consistency?!?”.

Even as Windows 10 rolls out next week (unfinished, but there's a deadline to meet) Microsoft can't decide on a name. Is it Windows 10 mobile or Mobile (uppercase)?...



Where do we go from here?

IT is what we allow it to be...
Martin

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