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Message 1681203 - Posted: 18 May 2015, 20:56:22 UTC

Before we all forget, this website setiathome.berkeley.edu is not where the upload/download servers are located. Open your server response file in the BOINC directory and you will see those are at setiboinc.ssl.berkeley.edu

The website traffic is carried on the normal campus data paths.
The data is carried on the SETI paid for Hurricane Electric path.
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Message 1681219 - Posted: 18 May 2015, 21:31:35 UTC - in response to Message 1681203.  

Before we all forget, this website setiathome.berkeley.edu is not where the upload/download servers are located. Open your server response file in the BOINC directory and you will see those are at setiboinc.ssl.berkeley.edu

The website traffic is carried on the normal campus data paths.
The data is carried on the SETI paid for Hurricane Electric path.

Actually, I believe SETI's data traffic is carried over campus links within UCB, but doesn't use their external peering.

Instead, it's encapsulated withing a Virtual Private Network (VPN) between Palo Alto and the Space Science Laboratory - thanks to a matched pair of heavy-duty Cisco routers, which were donated some years ago.

So, the bits pass through campus routers (we can see them on cricket, under normal circumstances), but the packets are not routed by campus, so we don't see campus routers on a data link tracert.
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Message 1681226 - Posted: 18 May 2015, 22:03:14 UTC - in response to Message 1681203.  
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Before we all forget, this website setiathome.berkeley.edu is not where the upload/download servers are located. Open your server response file in the BOINC directory and you will see those are at setiboinc.ssl.berkeley.edu

The website traffic is carried on the normal campus data paths.
The data is carried on the SETI paid for Hurricane Electric path.

Yes the data graph we monitored was the traffic over the Hurricane line. However it is routed though the same hardware as the web pages.
Until recently setiathome.berkeley.edu traced to
t1-3.inr-201-sut.Berkeley.edu [128.32.0.65]
t5-4.inr-211-srb.Berkeley.edu [128.32.255.41]
Now with it tracing to
t2-3.inr-202-reccev.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.0.39]
et3-47.inr-311-ewdc.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.0.103]
It does seem very likely that the Hurricane line will also be routed through the new hardware.
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Message 1681239 - Posted: 18 May 2015, 23:00:41 UTC - in response to Message 1681203.  

Before we all forget, this website setiathome.berkeley.edu is not where the upload/download servers are located. Open your server response file in the BOINC directory and you will see those are at setiboinc.ssl.berkeley.edu

The website traffic is carried on the normal campus data paths.
The data is carried on the SETI paid for Hurricane Electric path.


Trace to the upload server is this.

Tracing route to setiboincdata.ssl.berkeley.edu [208.68.240.16]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms xxxxxxxxxxxx
2 5 ms 5 ms 8 ms XXXXXXXXXXXX
3 9 ms 7 ms 6 ms 67.136.4.193
4 * 10 ms 11 ms static-65-73-41-1.bras01.blu.wv.integra.net [70.102.100.185]
5 48 ms 37 ms 33 ms 10gigabitethernet7-3.core1.lax1.he.net [198.32.146.50]
6 26 ms 38 ms 27 ms 100ge15-1.core1.sjc2.he.net [184.105.223.249]
7 27 ms 39 ms 27 ms 10ge5-2.core1.pao1.he.net [72.52.92.69]
8 219 ms 121 ms 27 ms 64.71.140.42
9 30 ms 29 ms 32 ms 208.68.243.254
10 31 ms 30 ms 30 ms setiboincdata.ssl.berkeley.edu [208.68.240.16]

Trace complete.

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Message 1681364 - Posted: 19 May 2015, 6:11:47 UTC

All I know is it's been a long time since I've seen page loads and database queries as fast as they've been today. Even if the SETI servers weren't directly worked on, looks like there were some infrastructure issues that got resolved that we'll benefit from. Good stuff!
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Message 1681385 - Posted: 19 May 2015, 7:52:11 UTC - in response to Message 1681364.  
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At the moment, I'm finding forum & web page response times about the same as usual. Neither great, nor bad. They're both OK.
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Message 1681403 - Posted: 19 May 2015, 8:57:34 UTC

My observation regarding page load/response times 12-16 hours ago was that it was about the same, whilst I was reading about people in Europe having really a really slow experience.

Then it started to crawl for me, too, but I then determined that everything was crawling for me. For whatever reason, I suddenly had about a 90% packet loss, and the few packets that went through had a 1500ms ping. Power cycled cable modem and router..twice, and that problem went away.

Now that someone mentioned load/response times are very snappy.. I am noticing that, myself. This has happened once or twice before with some upgrades though. I'm not even done clicking a link and the page has already completely loaded. We'll see how long this lasts...
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Message 1681547 - Posted: 19 May 2015, 22:20:55 UTC

Since we are now back from the outage I checked to SSP to see how many APs were being split, I'm disappointed.
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Message 1681559 - Posted: 19 May 2015, 22:45:23 UTC - in response to Message 1681547.  

Since we are now back from the outage I checked to SSP to see how many APs were being split, I'm disappointed.

Yeah, I've just had to let my main rig's CPU have another feed of MB's to keep it happy.

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Message 1681600 - Posted: 20 May 2015, 0:32:35 UTC - in response to Message 1681559.  

Since we are now back from the outage I checked to SSP to see how many APs were being split, I'm disappointed.

Yeah, I've just had to let my main rig's CPU have another feed of MB's to keep it happy.

Cheers.


Yea, I REALLY wish there was a setting for "Store X days of MB, and Y days of AP" without having to do it manually. I love AP's but am happy to crunch MB's when they're not available.

But since it is a combined project, we can't do that. :(
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Message 1681610 - Posted: 20 May 2015, 0:57:31 UTC - in response to Message 1681600.  

Since we are now back from the outage I checked to SSP to see how many APs were being split, I'm disappointed.

Yeah, I've just had to let my main rig's CPU have another feed of MB's to keep it happy.

Cheers.


Yea, I REALLY wish there was a setting for "Store X days of MB, and Y days of AP" without having to do it manually. I love AP's but am happy to crunch MB's when they're not available.

But since it is a combined project, we can't do that. :(

Just run 2 clients. Set on for a venue with MB only & the other with AP only. Easy as cake. Piece of pie.
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Message 1681638 - Posted: 20 May 2015, 4:00:30 UTC

Why can't you just do "give me work for APv7, allow for other applications"? I know that'll basically fill your cache up with MB, but when APs are available and you do a work request, you should start getting APs basically right away. Of course, it'll be however-long until your cache churns through the stock-pile of MBs before you start actually crunching the APs.. but that's about as close to "set and forget" as you're going to get whilst preferring AP over MB, but still allowing both.
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Message 1681643 - Posted: 20 May 2015, 4:34:46 UTC - in response to Message 1681638.  

Why can't you just do "give me work for APv7, allow for other applications"? I know that'll basically fill your cache up with MB, but when APs are available and you do a work request, you should start getting APs basically right away. Of course, it'll be however-long until your cache churns through the stock-pile of MBs before you start actually crunching the APs.. but that's about as close to "set and forget" as you're going to get whilst preferring AP over MB, but still allowing both.


That works fine when abundant AP's are being split, but in the 'lean times' we have seen in the last 6 months, if your cache is filled with MB's when a few AP's are generated you miss out. I also have a separate setting for 'home' versus 'work' where one calls for both and the other for AP's only.

I fill my cache with the 'both' setting then switch back to the AP's only and let my cache run down to 70 or so then refill. That method increases the odds of catching a few AP's now and then.

Nonetheless AP pickins' is slim.......

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Message 1681647 - Posted: 20 May 2015, 4:50:29 UTC - in response to Message 1681643.  

Exactly dg,
It's a guessing game of how much MB's to load and estimate when you think AP's might be coming out.

I use 3 profiles actually, and keep flipping them. Well one is for my other computer, so 2 for each computer.
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Message 1681817 - Posted: 20 May 2015, 18:26:33 UTC

Can anyone tell if validation is working, my pendings keep increasing.....

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Message 1681882 - Posted: 20 May 2015, 22:13:32 UTC - in response to Message 1681817.  

Can anyone tell if validation is working, my pendings keep increasing.....

I believe the validator is is are working as I have had over 4000 credits overnight
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Message 1681891 - Posted: 20 May 2015, 22:27:27 UTC - in response to Message 1681882.  

Can anyone tell if validation is working, my pendings keep increasing.....

I believe the validator is is are working as I have had over 4000 credits overnight

Validation is most certainly working here.

You may just have a lot of slow wing people atm DG. ;-)

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Message 1681910 - Posted: 20 May 2015, 23:14:10 UTC - in response to Message 1681559.  

Since we are now back from the outage I checked to SSP to see how many APs were being split, I'm disappointed.

Yeah, I've just had to let my main rig's CPU have another feed of MB's to keep it happy.

Cheers.

I just had to let my 3570K have another feed of MB's. 100 of them just isn't enough whereas a 100 AP's will keep it occupied for 5 days. :-(

Cheers.
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Message 1681931 - Posted: 21 May 2015, 0:03:22 UTC - in response to Message 1681911.  

I run AP's only nowadays. When there are no AP's (which is often these days), it's idle time.

For now I have 34 AP GPU tasks left, and no AP CPU tasks.

I just like to keep my CPU's happy with AP's while I just letting my GPU's feast on MB's.

Damn, most of those MB's I got for the 3570K were shorties. :-(

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Message 1681932 - Posted: 21 May 2015, 0:03:36 UTC - in response to Message 1681911.  
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I'll run MBs when I have to and Einstein if Seti has nothing, no cold iron here. Also the cricket is still missing. I shall crunch on.
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