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Message 1666892 - Posted: 18 Apr 2015, 17:32:21 UTC - in response to Message 1666882.  

Generally speaking Alcohol is not considered to be, as per the thread title, a hard drug.

It should be.
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Message 1666931 - Posted: 18 Apr 2015, 18:49:08 UTC - in response to Message 1666892.  

Generally speaking Alcohol is not considered to be, as per the thread title, a hard drug.

It should be.


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Message 1666936 - Posted: 18 Apr 2015, 19:07:45 UTC

Another "hard" drug is religion.
At least Karl Marx thought that.
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Message 1666947 - Posted: 18 Apr 2015, 19:32:42 UTC - in response to Message 1666936.  

Another "hard" drug is religion.
At least Karl Marx thought that.


He said that?
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Message 1666954 - Posted: 18 Apr 2015, 19:50:49 UTC - in response to Message 1666947.  
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Another "hard" drug is religion.
At least Karl Marx thought that.

He said that?

Well, he and others.

When the young Karl Marx in 1844 spoke of religion as "das Opium des Volks", he gathered in a pithy formulation up many phrases that were bandied about. Religion was seen as a consolation in a bleak world.

- But it was actually Immanuel Kant, who almost half a century earlier began to speak in these terms, says Sven-Eric Liedman, retired Professor of the History of Ideas at the University of Gothenburg.

Less well known is that the historian and writer Erik Gustaf Geijer in November 1839 - five years before Karl Marx - wrote about religion as an "opiate, which is input mob as an anesthetic."

It was the conservatism of the apostate Geijer now radically and critically discussed social issues in Literature Paper: "Religion and morality acting as deafening agents against injustice, are really the opiate, which may result in slumber ..." He was referring to the fact that many of his contemporaries gave this image of religion as the opium, and it turns out that even Georg Wilhelm Friedrich Hegel and his disciples sometimes mentions opium in various reflections on including Indian religion and philosophy.


"I have never said that religion is the opium of the people..."
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Message 1666963 - Posted: 18 Apr 2015, 20:10:26 UTC

Really didn't know that, very interesting!
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Message 1667154 - Posted: 19 Apr 2015, 9:40:11 UTC
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”Opiat, som ingives hopen såsom bedövningsmedel”.
"Opiate, which is input mob as an anesthetic."


The Metaphor is related to opium since the late 1700s had become a common drug for relieving ailments that contemporary medicine was unable to treat. The drug was given further timeliness of the Opium War between Britain and China, which broke out 1839.
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Message 1667172 - Posted: 19 Apr 2015, 10:43:35 UTC
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Endorphin is a peptide hormone (opioid) that the body produces itself of proopiomelanocortin, and relieves pain. The hormone affects our desire to sleep, eat and drink. Endorphin is secreted including the laughter, stress, exercise, but also of sex and love.

Endorphin secretion can lead to "exercise addiction", which is a combination of chemical dependence of endorphin and psychological dependence. A study has shown that the effect of endorphin, measured in milligrams of morphine injected intravenously, 45 minute high intensity running had the same effect as measured in pain inhibition at thermal provocation, as the injection of 10 mg of morphine.

Endorphins are often considered to be the body's own morphine, by reason of the substances, like morphine, heroin and other opiates, binds to the so-called opioid receptors. Chemically, however, endorphin and morphine completely unrelated. Similarly to the effect of morphine and heroin can be inhibited by naloxone, this topic has the same inhibitory effect on the endogenous endorphins.
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Message 1667537 - Posted: 20 Apr 2015, 10:16:20 UTC - in response to Message 1666892.  

Generally speaking Alcohol is not considered to be, as per the thread title, a hard drug.

It should be.

Another "hard" drug is religion.
At least Karl Marx thought that.

I know which i consider more harmful.
Alcohol tends to confine its damage to the user and their immediate family and friends. I don't think it has ever inspired users to ravage foreign countries because the inhabitants prefer a different spirit.
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Message 1669214 - Posted: 24 Apr 2015, 3:18:13 UTC - in response to Message 1662799.  
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Methadone
physically addictive


I'll add that Methadone is psychologically addictive as well. My father ran a Methadone clinic-I used to also work with adolescent addicts for a number of years in my first career. Anything that is physically addictive carries psychological addiction as a secondary effect.


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Message 1669258 - Posted: 24 Apr 2015, 6:01:38 UTC - in response to Message 1669214.  

Methadone
physically addictive


I'll add that Methadone is psychologically addictive as well. My father ran a Methadone clinic-I used to also work with adolescent addicts for a number of years in my first career. Anything that is physically addictive carries psychological addiction as a secondary effect.


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Message 1672127 - Posted: 30 Apr 2015, 17:18:58 UTC

And how makes all these new synthetic drugs?
My guess a chemist that have worked for a big Company and lost his/hers job...
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Message 1672524 - Posted: 1 May 2015, 10:29:51 UTC - in response to Message 1672127.  

And how makes all these new synthetic drugs?
My guess a chemist that have worked for a big Company and lost his/hers job...


I imagine a lot of things escape into the wild this way. LSD sort of did, didn't it?
The mind is a weird and mysterious place
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Message 1672527 - Posted: 1 May 2015, 10:52:58 UTC - in response to Message 1672524.  

And how makes all these new synthetic drugs?
My guess a chemist that have worked for a big Company and lost his/hers job...


I imagine a lot of things escape into the wild this way. LSD sort of did, didn't it?

LSD i believe was originally invented as a truth drug.
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Message 1672538 - Posted: 1 May 2015, 12:09:38 UTC - in response to Message 1672527.  
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And how makes all these new synthetic drugs?
My guess a chemist that have worked for a big Company and lost his/hers job...

I imagine a lot of things escape into the wild this way. LSD sort of did, didn't it?

LSD i believe was originally invented as a truth drug.

As chemical warfare weapon. LSD Testing (British Troops)
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