... why do people use drugs in the first place?

Perhaps the question should be, "Why shouldn't people use drugs?"

I think that might be a better starting place.

Or... If the Supply of Drugs cannot be stopped. The Drug Lords are easily replaced (Money). We should not Criminalize Drug Use:

As a Middle of The Road, Practical Solution Believer, with Libertarian Tendencies.

What is the Criminal Problem?

The criminal problem has been created by prohibition. If that is what you care about, then decriminalise all drugs.

Why do people die from drug use? Most often because they are taking unregulated untested street drugs with no idea of correct dosage or what they have been cut with. Legalise it and regulate it and you cut out the drug lords, and reduce the risk of death.

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As a believer in 'Practical Solutions'.
Regulation, not Criminalization, may be the best way to go.

Best comment so far.
It's quite easy really.

My thoughts how to stop hard drugs is this reasoning.
Money is an incitement to make and sell dangerous drugs. Right?
To stop free drugs on the market give those AHs dealers money instead of them selling this shit.
Must be much cheeper. Right?

Or I'm I a stupid Swede?

Its very obvious that the draconian lasw on the books since the 70's here in the states dont work. My opinion is its just a money grabbing game for the local police agencies.
Yes hard drugs are a problem. But it should be treatment not incarceration. That only goes for possesion not commtitting a crime to get the drug. Larceny and crimmial acts do need to be punished. But, They still need treatment.
I know a guy who was a crack addict. Hed been to prison a few times for possesion. Never learned his lesson or was never offerd treatment. I have no clue. He is now in jail for doing a bank robbery. To get more crack.
What the US is doing now to solve the problenm isnt working. I would say a major rethink is in order.

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One must find ways to reduce demand without further ruining the lives of those hooked on "drugs". I am not sure about how to go about this, but I do know that what has been tried so far... HASN'T.

I know that some countries have set up special clinics where drug addicts can get their fix of drugs free of charge. Its a way of taking a cut in the profits of the dealers, improve the safety of hard drug use, without the problems you mentioned when you go after the users themselves or the problems the users create when you diminish the supply side of drugs.

What causes someone to try a hard drug? I've tried pot, and it's ok, but not really my thing, however if it was legal in my state, I'd probably give it another shot. Now, on the other hand, if cocaine or heroin was legal, I don't think I'd try it because those "hard drugs" scare me a little bit.

Good admission. Just what is it about the hard drugs that scare you?

Very little.

What is it about the substances many street-level drugs are commonly cut with that scares me? A great deal.

I was put on Morphine for a couple of days in hospital once, those were good days! I can well see how people could become addicted to it.
However, having worked for three months in a forensics lab as a summer project profiling the chemical makeup of some confiscated drug samples, i'm going nowhere near anything bought from the street.

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I wouldn't worry about PG 13 . Kids aged 13 are in high school by then and are getting education about all drugs .

Hard drugs are those that are very damaging to the person and socicety

Heroin
Ice
Cocaine
Crystal Meth (methamphetamine)
Speed (Amphetamine)
L.S.D
Methadone
Ecstasy (MDMA)

These drugs are man made and refined in a Lab extremely addictive and can kill you , depending on your health at the time of use

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I wouldn't worry about PG 13 . Kids aged 13 are in high school by then and are getting education about all drugs .

Hard drugs are those that are very damaging to the person and socicety

Heroin

highly physically addictive.

Ice

Don't know about this one.

Cocaine

Not physically addictive at all, but psychologically addictive.

Crystal Meth (methamphetamine)

Physically addictive.

Speed (Amphetamine)

Similar to coke. Used to be prescribed for weightloss. Similar to the Ritalin that they give to adhd kids.

L.S.D

Not addictive. Does screw up the brain with long term effects.

Methadone

physically addictive

Ecstasy (MDMA)

Actually one of the safer drugs. Problems occur when mixed with impurities by dealers or when people end up drinking too much water.

These drugs are man made and refined in a Lab extremely addictive and can kill you , depending on your health at the time of use

Some of them are derived from plants. Some are man made. Some are addictive and some aren't.

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What causes someone to try a hard drug? I've tried pot, and it's ok, but not really my thing, however if it was legal in my state, I'd probably give it another shot. Now, on the other hand, if cocaine or heroin was legal, I don't think I'd try it because those "hard drugs" scare me a little bit.

Good admission. Just what is it about the hard drugs that scare you?

Very little.

What is it about the substances many street-level drugs are commonly cut with that scares me? A great deal.

I was put on Morphine for a couple of days in hospital once, those were good days! I can well see how people could become addicted to it.
However, having worked for three months in a forensics lab as a summer project profiling the chemical makeup of some confiscated drug samples, i'm going nowhere near anything bought from the street.

Right, it's the street drugs that scare me. I wouldn't try those.

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I wouldn't worry about PG 13 . Kids aged 13 are in high school by then and are getting education about all drugs .

Hard drugs are those that are very damaging to the person and socicety

Heroin
Ice
Cocaine
Crystal Meth (methamphetamine)
Speed (Amphetamine)
L.S.D
Methadone
Ecstasy (MDMA)

These drugs are man made and refined in a Lab extremely addictive and can kill you , depending on your health at the time of use

You forgot GHB, Glenn, a very dangerous drug! I lost a friend because of it, she died of a heart attack.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gamma-Hydroxybutyric_acid

One thing about GHB, it cannot be traced in urine which makes it easy for drug abusers/ users under monitoring to 'cheat'

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So far Julie GHB is not much of a problem and i have not herd of it being used here if it is thank god i've herd it's very dangerous as people think they are supermen/women .You are talking about Angel dust i believe it's called , yes ?

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Angel dust may refer to:

A common name for the drug phencyclidine (PCP)

Yes Chris , that's right it's PCP , so what is GHB i have herd of it but not shore what it is .[/url]

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Angel dust may refer to:

A common name for the drug phencyclidine (PCP)

Yes Chris , that's right it's PCP , so what is GHB i have herd of it but not shore what it is .[/url]

I posted a link to the Wikipedia page in my last post, Glenn.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gamma-Hydroxybutyric_acid

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Thanks Julie i thought i had herd of it the "date rape drug" which has been used here but it's not a big problem here yet . The big problem at the moment is "ICE"

Ice and base are methamphetamine, part of the amphetamine family of drugs which also includes speed. The difference between ice, base and speed is that ice is the most pure form, followed by base then speed. The 'high' experienced from ice and base is much more intense, and with intense reactions come powerful responses including comedown, the potential for dependence (addiction) and chronic physical and mental problems.

Ice is known as a variety of other names, including: crystal meth, meth, crystal, shabu, batu, d-meth, tina and glass. Base is also known as: speed dexedrine, dexies, dex, shad, go-ee, glass, tina, paste, oxblood, shabu, yabba and crank.

From the Australian Department of Heath National Drug Campain

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I wouldn't worry about PG 13 . Kids aged 13 are in high school by then and are getting education about all drugs .

Hard drugs are those that are very damaging to the person and socicety

Heroin
Ice
Cocaine
Crystal Meth (methamphetamine)
Speed (Amphetamine)
L.S.D
Methadone
Ecstasy (MDMA)

These drugs are man made and refined in a Lab extremely addictive and can kill you , depending on your health at the time of use

Actually of that list one (cocaine) is a natural product, three (Heroin, LSD and methadone) are derivatised from natural products and only three (ice and crystal meth are the same thing, speed and MDMA) are synthetic.

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Here's another one. I don't think I've seen this one mentioned in the thread.

Kroc
http://arch1design.com/blog/2011/06/russiakrocodil-drug-eats-junkies/

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In the "sports" world there are LOTS of drugs.
From the beginning they where meant to heal sick persons.

In the "sports" world there are LOTS of drugs.
From the beginning they where meant to heal sick persons.

Or rather persons who 'think' they are sick.

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In the "sports" world there are LOTS of drugs.
From the beginning they where meant to heal sick persons.

Or rather persons who 'think' they are sick.

Yes. 'think' Lance Armstrong.
Actually he was very sick suffering from cancer in the early 90's but recovered and got healthy.
He also met a lot of Medical profesionals...

In the "sports" world there are LOTS of drugs.
From the beginning they where meant to heal sick persons.

Or rather persons who 'think' they are sick.

Yes. 'think' Lance Armstrong.
Actually he was very sick suffering from cancer in the early 90's but recovered and got healthy.
He also met a lot of Medical profesionals...

Yes, medicine for curing cancer is Very necessary, that's a fact.

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In the "sports" world there are LOTS of drugs.
From the beginning they where meant to heal sick persons.

Or rather persons who 'think' they are sick.

Yes. 'think' Lance Armstrong.
Actually he was very sick suffering from cancer in the early 90's but recovered and got healthy.
He also met a lot of Medical profesionals...

Yes, medicine for curing cancer is Very necessary, that's a fact.

But not in sports unless you have cancer that's a fact.
Just tell everybody that you are on medication for something and its OK...