This one?

Yes, if you have an ereader I can send you a copy.

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There is absolutely no evidence for God. The probability of there being a God is so infinitesimal that I put it close to zero.

But you are not in the position to make an accurate claim on the probability of the existence of a god. Your sample size is far to small, and even the evidence itself is inconclusive, it does not support the notion of a God, but neither does it in any way exclude the possibility of a God.

Basically, you can't make statistical claims about the metaphysical.

Thanks for the offer but no thanks, e-readers are for 21C nerds. I have just bought the paperback for £8 on Amazon. You will hear further when I have read it.

So, you're glasses are strong enough? I found mine were not up to the challenge of the very small print in an old printing of the "FOundation" trilogy.

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Capitalize on this good fortune, one word can bring you round ... changes.

This one?

I just bought one also.

Steve

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There is so much factual information available now, it is hard to see how all the misconceptions continue to exist. The information concerns the actual timeline of religious events, the time first reported, and the fact or fiction of each event.

Once you strip out the BS, there really isn't anything left. With actual evidence, the roots of Christianity have been pulled up. There are two main ways to question Christianity. First the content itself, which is clearly wrong, and contradictory to itself, then the construction of the whole idea, which is also heavily flawed. When you strip away all the BS, you have nothing. This is where science flourishes. It self corrects. Being wrong is no problem, and saying "I don't know", is also not a problem.

Steve

Edit: Passing on BS from generation to generation is a problem, and can be stopped within one generation.

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Many Apostles of Jesus were Murdered. And Jews were being Slaughtered left and right.

Why would anyone talk, write, or sideways mention Jesus, when Death Is Everywhere. 100 Years or 200, The Roman Death
Machine was Still Going Strong.

And All People wanted 'is' to Live Their Life, without Getting Killed.

Like Jesus.

Yep.

PEOPLE ARE SCARED TO DEATH TO GO AFTER OBLABBY and It's The 21st CENTURY.

RETRIBUTION 'is' HELL.

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May we All have a METAMORPHOSIS. REASON. GOoD JUDGEMENT and LOVE and ORDER!!!!!

Thanks for the offer but no thanks, e-readers are for 21C nerds. I have just bought the paperback for £8 on Amazon. You will hear further when I have read it.

So, you're glasses are strong enough? I found mine were not up to the challenge of the very small print in an old printing of the "FOundation" trilogy.

You should get an ereader. You can change the font size.

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The Christians were taken seriously by the Roman emperor, Marcus Aurelius
(A.D. 121- 180). He said that, although morally superior to the Romans,
they were an irrational people, and would gladly go to the lions -- and, he
would, gladly, send them to them.

But, more noteworthy, from my perspective, he said that they were a threat
to the empire. Draw your own conclusions, certainly.

Thanks for the offer but no thanks, e-readers are for 21C nerds. I have just bought the paperback for £8 on Amazon. You will hear further when I have read it.

So, you're glasses are strong enough? I found mine were not up to the challenge of the very small print in an old printing of the "FOundation" trilogy.

You should get an ereader. You can change the font size.

Es: I read most of the rest of the series, and the robot series via kindle plus a few other books since then.

Chris: thus, it is not a matter of trying to be trendy.

Steve: I am in your court, but some small concerns. How many of us know the ancient languages besides, perhaps, Latin? If we don't, it is hard to verify for ourselves the claims in the scholarship of others on this matter. Also, though I'm sure it would only hold out small hope, but what about some other accounts that did not survive or have survived but have not been found yet?

Jim: so, either Jesus (Christ) existed, dying around approximately 26 or 33 A.D., or he didn't. If Steve's summary is correct, nonetheless, a story begun to be spread sometime between approximately 46 and 63 A.D. Your point just indicates a story (true or not) had at least approximately 60 years to spread and gain some believers. Thus, Christians existed. That still doesn't answer whether their beliefs were correct or not.

Sarge -- Don't hold your breath on an answer as to whether the Christians
were/are right, or not. Neither the Jews nor Muslims believe his claim to
being the Son of God. As my younger daughter once said, "I guess we'll just
have to wait to find out." (She was about eight years old, at the time.)

Steve: I am in your court, but some small concerns. How many of us know the ancient languages besides, perhaps, Latin? If we don't, it is hard to verify for ourselves the claims in the scholarship of others on this matter. Also, though I'm sure it would only hold out small hope, but what about some other accounts that did not survive or have survived but have not been found yet?

Jim: so, either Jesus (Christ) existed, dying around approximately 26 or 33 A.D., or he didn't. If Steve's summary is correct, nonetheless, a story begun to be spread sometime between approximately 46 and 63 A.D. Your point just indicates a story (true or not) had at least approximately 60 years to spread and gain some believers. Thus, Christians existed. That still doesn't answer whether their beliefs were correct or not.

I agree learning ancient Greek, and Aramaic is beyond what most of us are willing to do, myself included. What is interesting, is that for those who do delve into the ancient writings, they are finding the same evidence, or lack there of. So there is correlation among the serious researchers. What is clear is that the story grew and grew over the years, and was changed for political and accidental reasons. People made it up as they went, to tell a bigger and bigger tail. Now, for the most part, it has been so ingrained in society, that more often than not, it is just accepted and not questioned.

A friend at work, says his religion uses the most ancient texts as a basis, but then I point out that the ancient texts are really mostly plagiarized versions of even more ancient texts. For example, Noah and the flood was the story of Gilgamesh. Almost word for word, some of the Jesus sayings were copies of sayings thousands of years earlier. The virgin birth was a common addition. Anything was used that could make the whole thing more appealing was used. Several times people would meet, evaluate what scriptures existed, and keep some, and discard others as heresy. I still see people who think every word in the bible is true, even when one verse says one thing, and another verse says the opposite.

The more I continue to learn, the more correlation I am finding. This certainly helps to verify the information I am finding.

Steve

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