Entertainment?

Fox hunting originated in Britain, but is practised all over the world, including in Australia, Canada, France, Ireland, Italy and the United States. In Australia, the term also refers to the hunting of foxes with firearms similar to spotlighting or deer hunting. in Britain, ‘hunting’ without qualification implies fox hunting (or beagling, stag hunting and mink hunting). In Britain, hunting animals for sport is illegal, however the law is being broken.
Fox hunting was banned in Britain in 2004, but it still practised on a weekly basis all around the country. A foxhunt is a cruel and bloody event and involves the chasing of a red fox by a pack of trained foxhounds or other scent hounds and a group of hunters on horseback or foot. When being chased by the hounds, a fox will often attempt to escape underground. At this point a terrier is often sent down the hole to hold the fox at bay while the terriermen dig out the fox. As the fox is unable to escape it will then experience high levels of fear which, without being able to escape, will increase over time.
In the autumn of each year (August–October), hunts take the young hounds out cub hunting to kill young foxes. However, foxes are not the only animals to suffer. Historically it has been common practice to put hounds down at the end of their working lives around 6 – 8 years, or when a foxhound becomes too slow to keep up with the pack. There have also been numerous occasions when hounds have been injured or killed on roads and railway lines and when terriers have been injured or killed during terrier work.
Just because something was once a way of life does not mean it is right. We live in a modern, progressive society and allowing dogs to chase and kill wild animals for entertainment is simply not acceptable.

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Animal killing for competition?

Well it depends on HOW you treat the fish when beeing caught.
I have seen very good tv shows from Australia where they enjoy fishing and ALWAYS take the hook from it, kiss it and put it back in the water!

Entertainment?

Fox hunting originated in Britain, but is practised all over the world, including in Australia, Canada, France, Ireland, Italy and the United States. In Australia, the term also refers to the hunting of foxes with firearms similar to spotlighting or deer hunting. in Britain, ‘hunting’ without qualification implies fox hunting (or beagling, stag hunting and mink hunting). In Britain, hunting animals for sport is illegal, however the law is being broken.
Fox hunting was banned in Britain in 2004, but it still practised on a weekly basis all around the country. A foxhunt is a cruel and bloody event and involves the chasing of a red fox by a pack of trained foxhounds or other scent hounds and a group of hunters on horseback or foot. When being chased by the hounds, a fox will often attempt to escape underground. At this point a terrier is often sent down the hole to hold the fox at bay while the terriermen dig out the fox. As the fox is unable to escape it will then experience high levels of fear which, without being able to escape, will increase over time.
In the autumn of each year (August–October), hunts take the young hounds out cub hunting to kill young foxes. However, foxes are not the only animals to suffer. Historically it has been common practice to put hounds down at the end of their working lives around 6 – 8 years, or when a foxhound becomes too slow to keep up with the pack. There have also been numerous occasions when hounds have been injured or killed on roads and railway lines and when terriers have been injured or killed during terrier work.
Just because something was once a way of life does not mean it is right. We live in a modern, progressive society and allowing dogs to chase and kill wild animals for entertainment is simply not acceptable.

I agree that hunting for entertainment should be discouraged.

Personally, I have only 'hunted' either for purposes of food or to remove dangerous predators from my dad's farm. I eat what I shoot when hunting animals considered edible (deer, boar, etc.).

Also, I have had to use a gun to both defend our livestock from predators on the spot and to put down livestock that are gravely injured or ill. I consider it a mercy to put the poor animal down to end its very... apparent suffering. I also see nothing wrong with shooting and killing packs of feral dogs attacking our herd of cattle.

I will use a firearm (or other weapon)on an animal for the following purposes:

1. defence of self, others, or property.
2. to end its suffering when it is injured or ill.
3. when I am hungry and I intend to eat it. I also fish for this reason too.

In my opinion, hunting for 'sport' is wrong. If a man needs to go blow the head off of some poor small furry animal just to feel manly or <wink> "get wood" </wink>, he isn't much of a man, in my opinion.

In my opinion, hunting for 'sport' is wrong.

Yeah but aside from the three reasons you mentioned, hunting can serve a fourth very important reason, namely population control. And if you are hunting an animal that breeds rapidly and whose population needs to be culled on a regular basis, whats wrong with turning a hunt of it into a sort of game/sport? As long as you dont make any of the animals needlessly suffer, why not make a tally at the end to see who shot the most?

Indeed, turning it into a sport means you regulate the way you hunt, where you hunt and how much/often you can hunt. Its a good way to ensure that the hunting is done in such a way that it helps restore balance in nature, rather than further distorts it.

I agree that hunting for entertainment should be discouraged.
Personally, I have only 'hunted' either for purposes of food or to remove dangerous predators from my dad's farm. I eat what I shoot when hunting animals considered edible (deer, boar, etc.).
Also, I have had to use a gun to both defend our livestock from predators on the spot and to put down livestock that are gravely injured or ill. I consider it a mercy to put the poor animal down to end its very... apparent suffering. I also see nothing wrong with shooting and killing packs of feral dogs attacking our herd of cattle.
I will use a firearm (or other weapon)on an animal for the following purposes:
1. defence of self, others, or property.
2. to end its suffering when it is injured or ill.
3. when I am hungry and I intend to eat it. I also fish for this reason too.
In my opinion, hunting for 'sport' is wrong. If a man needs to go blow the head off of some poor small furry animal just to feel manly or <wink> "get wood" </wink>, he isn't much of a man, in my opinion.

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I Think you have been to a farm.
Farms are very common in Texas.

Well this could well be the thread where I finally get myself banned ...... But I am quite prepared to go into exile for something that I passionately believe in, and this issue is one of them.

Im the TO and if someone get banned for saying that killing animals for fun are fun....

You have enemies? Good. That means you've stood up for something, sometime in your life.

Winston Churchill.

Let's make it real. You have a population of plague infected rats breeding.

I'm going to assume you see the desirability of killing them.

Do you as the taxpayer, pay employees to do the killing, or have volunteer hunters do the killing?

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Well this could well be the thread where I finally get myself banned ...... But I am quite prepared to go into exile for something that I passionately believe in, and this issue is one of them.

Carefull Chris S:
You broke the rules.
Soon I will Close this thread because of you!

Well this could well be the thread where I finally get myself banned ...... But I am quite prepared to go into exile for something that I passionately believe in, and this issue is one of them.

Carefull Chris S:
You broke the rules.
Soon I will Close this thread because of you!

And which rule did he break?

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In my opinion, hunting for 'sport' is wrong.

Yeah but aside from the three reasons you mentioned, hunting can serve a fourth very important reason, namely population control. And if you are hunting an animal that breeds rapidly and whose population needs to be culled on a regular basis, whats wrong with turning a hunt of it into a sort of game/sport? As long as you dont make any of the animals needlessly suffer, why not make a tally at the end to see who shot the most?

Indeed, turning it into a sport means you regulate the way you hunt, where you hunt and how much/often you can hunt. Its a good way to ensure that the hunting is done in such a way that it helps restore balance in nature, rather than further distorts it.

Yes, you DO have a point.

But, what is wrong with eating what you kill?

Case in point: the White-tailed deer in Texas. Since humans virtually wiped out their predators (the wolf) in the name of safeguarding livestock, the deer would quickly breed themselves into overpopulation, causing severe damage to the wilderness environment in the process.

In Texas, as is the case in many other US States, hunting licenses are issued for a fee once a year. Each license comes with a set number of 'tags' for various game animals. Last time I had one, the number of 'deer tags' was, if I remember correctly, 3. That meant that during deer season, each licensed hunter could take 3 deer. Hunting out of season, or hunting with unapproved weapons (too small a firearm, and the deer might needlessly suffer), or shooting more than your allotment of deer is a crime with its defined-by-law punishment.

The one time I participated in that rather (or so I now consider it) barbaric ritual of manhood, I shot and killed one deer. After some field-prep work on the body, I took it to an area business and had it 'processed' into a variety of different cuts of meat which I picked up (after paying) deep-frozen. I took it home and put it in my deep-freezer. For the next several months, I had some rather nice venison to cook and eat periodically.

Like I said, when I go 'hunting' for game animals, I EAT what I kill. In my opinion, ALL hunters should have to do the same.

Well this could well be the thread where I finally get myself banned ...... But I am quite prepared to go into exile for something that I passionately believe in, and this issue is one of them.

Carefull Chris S:
You broke the rules.
Soon I will Close this thread because of you!

And which rule did he break?

My rule and what we all Think is netiquette.

Since the mods are Reading EVERY message in this FORUM you should know!
No messages intended to annoy or antagonize other people.
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Despicable are the farms that raise animals just for the sport of killing them and the meat goes to waste.

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Despicable are the farms that raise animals just for the sport of killing them and the meat goes to waste.

I Totally Agree.

Despicable are the farms that raise animals just for the sport of killing them and the meat goes to waste.

I Totally Agree.

So somewhere in between that and a plague of rabid rats is a happy medium.

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Gary, as per usual you are obfuscating the point. It is morally wrong to enjoy killing any animal that has a right to live and breathe, note the word in bold.

How many more times? You know full well the point that I am making. There are times that animals have to be killed either for controlled culling for the overall good of the herd, or for food, we all accept that. What I will not accept is where the animals are killed for the fun of it.

So it matters to you if someone derives enjoyment in a killing that you agree must happen (cull).

Your world is interesting, because even a professional hired to cull may take pleasure in doing his job efficiently and with precision.

The point should be the reason for the killing and if the method used is humane.

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But, what is wrong with eating what you kill?

Nothing? I never said there was something wrong with it. I just said that besides your three points I think there is something to be said for a fourth point. They can exist side by side :)

If you are that hard hearted that you cannot see that what you have said is wrong, then you had better make very very sure that you and I never ever meet face to face. I have reported this thread to the DSPA Which is the equivalent of the UK RSPCA.

If the animals don't suffer and the local ecology is not brought out of balance, then no, I dont see anything wrong with it. I see that you think its morally wrong to enjoy killing an animal, even when its desirable that the animal dies, and I can respect that. Its just not my point of view, and I hope you can respect that in return.

And report the thread if you want. I doubt they bother.

Hey Thread owner here!
Now it starts beeing ugly here.

I hear that some have little knowledge about animal care here.
I can say this. One from Texas, and TO. But also from Britain and Holland has some.

And what is animal care?
Yes you have till to kill some for the benefit of others.
It sounds like genocide but is not same by far.

I will explain later friends:)

I havnent hunted in close to 25 years. But when I did I ate what I shot. And It aint easy to kill a deer. They have been hunted for 15,000 plus years here in the US at least. Tell you the truth, Ive allmost hit way many more deer with my car than I ever saw in the woods.
As for the caged or fenced hunts. I dont like them.They should be banned. Thats not hunting at all.

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Old James

Bears are captured to function as entertainment items for people. They are displayed in battle arenas in violation of dogs or people. A tradition that stretches back to antiquity has been to get the bears to "dance". Cubs are captured when in the wild, their teeth pulled out and with various painful methods to get the bear to stand on his hind legs and move in rhythm to the music. With the emergence of animal protection laws the phenomenon disappeared in many Western countries, but it was not until 2007 that the last "dancing" bears disappeared in Europe when the final three Bulgarian "dancing" bears was handed over to an animal sanctuary. The tradition survives today mainly in the Indian subcontinent.

Lets Dance.