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Bowe Bergdahl has been charged with desertion along with one other charge.
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Bob DeWoody Send message Joined: 9 May 10 Posts: 3387 Credit: 4,182,900 RAC: 10 |
This has quietly slipped into the news. I found it by accident while checking an online weather report. http://abcnews.go.com/international/bowe-bergdahl-charged-desertion-lawyer/story?id=29901602 Bob DeWoody My motto: Never do today what you can put off until tomorrow as it may not be required. This no longer applies in light of current events. |
janneseti Send message Joined: 14 Oct 09 Posts: 14106 Credit: 655,366 RAC: 0 |
Bowe Bergdahl has both Swedish and Norwegian ancestry! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7pRRFJyqpQ8 |
betreger Send message Joined: 29 Jun 99 Posts: 11354 Credit: 29,581,041 RAC: 66 |
Bowe is an idiot but I remain unconvinced he deserted. |
janneseti Send message Joined: 14 Oct 09 Posts: 14106 Credit: 655,366 RAC: 0 |
Bowe is an idiot but I remain unconvinced he deserted. Idiot? |
Sarge Send message Joined: 25 Aug 99 Posts: 12273 Credit: 8,569,109 RAC: 79 |
This has quietly slipped into the news. I found it by accident while checking an online weather report. You have an interesting definition of "quietly". |
janneseti Send message Joined: 14 Oct 09 Posts: 14106 Credit: 655,366 RAC: 0 |
Now I understand. Ove Bergdahl is a very common Swedish name:) Bergdahl was born in 1986, in Sun Valley, Idaho, to Robert Bergdahl, a commercial truck driver, and his wife Jani (Larson) Bergdahl. He is of Norwegian and Swedish ancestry.He has an older sister, Sky Albrecht Bergdahl. Both Bergdahl and his sister were home schooled by their mother in Hailey, Idaho. The family attended Sovereign Redeemer Presbyterian Church, an Orthodox Presbyterian Church. He received a GED certificate through the College of Southern Idaho when he was in his early 20s. As an adult, Bergdahl studied and practiced fencing and martial arts before changing to ballet classes at the Sun Valley Ballet School in Ketchum, Idaho. He has never owned a car, and rode his bicycle everywhere. He spent time in a Buddhist monastery between 2007 and 2008. Way to go Ove:):):):):):):):):):):):):): F**K the US! |
janneseti Send message Joined: 14 Oct 09 Posts: 14106 Credit: 655,366 RAC: 0 |
Way to go Ove:):):):):):):):):):):):):): Dont use Goggle Translate!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I have explained this to Julia the moderator already! Ask her ! Not today but perhaps in monday. Sorry Julie and I'm sorry this happened. |
James Sotherden Send message Joined: 16 May 99 Posts: 10436 Credit: 110,373,059 RAC: 54 |
He will face a Courts martial. He will be defended by a lawyer. He will state his case and then be judged. Most likely he will be demoted to private and sent to prison for who knows how long. Unfortuantly he will be made an example of, Think Private Slovak in WW2. How ever Im sure he will get a presidential pardon. And it doesnt matter what my peronnel opinion is. [/quote] Old James |
betreger Send message Joined: 29 Jun 99 Posts: 11354 Credit: 29,581,041 RAC: 66 |
That is a sad litany and probably mostly true. I don't believe he deserted there is no evidence that he never intended to return, that was the definition of desertion when I was subject to the UCMJ back in the early 60s, I think he went AWOL. |
KWSN - MajorKong Send message Joined: 5 Jan 00 Posts: 2892 Credit: 1,499,890 RAC: 0 |
Well, Everyone seems to be focusing on the desertion charge. But it is not the most severe of the two. From the article Bob DeWoody linked: The Army said today Bergdahl has been charged with two counts under the Uniform Code of Military Justice: one count of “desertion with intent to shirk important or hazardous duty†and one count of “misbehavior before the enemy by endangering the safety of a command, unit or place.†Now, they might or might not be able to make the desertion charge stick; it is questionable -- depends on the Court in the "Court-Martial"... But the second charge... Bergdahl's backside is grass. He may get a presidential pardon, he might not... But, in the absense of one, there are good odds that he will spend many years down in the hole at Fort Leavenworth, Kansas. |
James Sotherden Send message Joined: 16 May 99 Posts: 10436 Credit: 110,373,059 RAC: 54 |
That is a sad litany and probably mostly true. When I was in the service 72-80 the line between desertion and awol was in being awol you had left your clothes in your locker at the barracks. You had every intention of coming back. I have no clue what being on the front lines were. [/quote] Old James |
betreger Send message Joined: 29 Jun 99 Posts: 11354 Credit: 29,581,041 RAC: 66 |
But the second charge... Bergdahl's backside is grass. Major that is jail house lawyering and they will do what want to do to that idiot. |
James Sotherden Send message Joined: 16 May 99 Posts: 10436 Credit: 110,373,059 RAC: 54 |
But the second charge... Bergdahl's backside is grass. I would let the men he served with judge him. [/quote] Old James |
betreger Send message Joined: 29 Jun 99 Posts: 11354 Credit: 29,581,041 RAC: 66 |
I would let the men he served with judge him. Jim they have and quite a few feel that he is guilty of some atrocity, hardly a fair and impartial jury or don't you think a jury should be impartial? |
James Sotherden Send message Joined: 16 May 99 Posts: 10436 Credit: 110,373,059 RAC: 54 |
I would let the men he served with judge him. I didnt mean to say let them be the jury. But its what they think of the man and his actions. No matter what is handed down as punishment. HE has to live with what he did. For all we know he is mentally unfit. [/quote] Old James |
betreger Send message Joined: 29 Jun 99 Posts: 11354 Credit: 29,581,041 RAC: 66 |
For all we know he is mentally unfit. Well, IMO he is an idiot. |
Darth Beaver Send message Joined: 20 Aug 99 Posts: 6728 Credit: 21,443,075 RAC: 3 |
For all we know he is mentally unfit. shell shock , scared , yella belly , coward , idiot , nutcase Traitor ? a step to far ? how did he get in the army in the first place ? no screening ? |
janneseti Send message Joined: 14 Oct 09 Posts: 14106 Credit: 655,366 RAC: 0 |
For all we know he is mentally unfit. I have done my service in my country as a conscript. Every "Soldier" have to undertake a screening. But things can change during an active service. Especially when fighting abroad. Shell Shock Victim (WW1) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S7Jll9_EiyA |
KWSN - MajorKong Send message Joined: 5 Jan 00 Posts: 2892 Credit: 1,499,890 RAC: 0 |
I would let the men he served with judge him. Jury? What is this jury of which you speak? </wink> It isn't a civilian trial. It is a military court-martial. Per http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Courts-martial_in_the_United_States#Composition_of_courts Under Article 25 of the UCMJ, members of the court are selected from members of the armed forces by the convening authority. Again, what jury? Under the Constitution, the protections afforded civilians do not necessarily apply to members of the military. Since Bergdahl's commanding officer requests and convenes the court-martial, and appoints the 3 (or is it 5?) members of the panel, even without any undue influence by the commanding officer, Bergdahl will likely have a difficult time totally avoiding punishment for the 2nd charge. I stand by my statement, Bergdahl's backside is grass. |
Bob DeWoody Send message Joined: 9 May 10 Posts: 3387 Credit: 4,182,900 RAC: 10 |
I agree with MajorKong but I also believe he will get a Presidential pardon shortly after being convicted now that Obama is a lame duck president. Bob DeWoody My motto: Never do today what you can put off until tomorrow as it may not be required. This no longer applies in light of current events. |
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