As far as your statement "They cannot even can tell the difference between pounds and kilograms when tanking an aeroplane!", you have the wrong country.

Yes. I forgot. It was in Canada but you know it's still America.
Sorry but Canadians are talking like US peoples only with a slightly different accent. I cant tell them apart.
But Americans dont realize how many countries, languages and accents there are in Europe:)
We have three different languages in Sweden and a lot of accents that I have to read the subtitles to understand:)


All qualified person are already in place to do a proper investigation!
And it will take some time.
Not like the MH17 where Putin denies Everything:(

How is Sweden different than the USA? We have a multitude of languages and various dialects and accents spoken in the USA. Even in Texas we have a bunch.

The top 10 Non-English languages spoken in Texas:

1. Spanish
2. Vietnamese
3. various dialects of Chinese
4. German
5. Tagalog
6. French
7. Korean and Urdu are tied for seventh.
8. Hindi
9. Arabic
10. Various Niger-Congo languages of West Africa (Ibo, Kru, and Yoruba)

And that is just the 'top 10'. Even the English spoken in Texas is highly varied from that spoken in States in the other side of the nation. For instance, Maine.

While a native speaker of Texas English can generally understand MOST of what a native English speaker from Maine says, and vice-versa. There are some rather significant differences in accent, grammar, and idiom to leave them both scratching their heads wondering what the other just said from time to time.

We are not that different.

You forgot something.
Swedish:)

No, I didn't forget Swedish. The list I gave was the top 10 list of non-english languages spoken in Texas. Actually it was the top 11, since Korean and Urdu tied for spot #7.

Swedish is, I think #47 or #48 on that list. It is kind of a rare language in Texas with only 2685 people in Texas speaking it. Shoot, even Swahili greatly outranks it with 7586 people in Texas speaking it.
http://www.mla.org/map_data_results&SRVY_YEAR=2005&geo=state&state_id=48&county_id=&mode=geographic&lang_id=&zip=&place_id=&cty_id=&region_id=&division_id=&a=n&ea=n&order=r&ll=all&pc=1

Shoot, as I said before, even the English spoken in Texas is a tad... bizarre. Or, at least it used to be before the advent of radio and television.

Here is a link to the wikipedia article on Texan English, if'n yawntoo a-go 'n reed it.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Texan_English

Could we possible refrain from derailing this thread with personal agendas and pissing matches and restrict it to any new news about the actual crash?

Just asking.........................

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"Freedom is just Chaos, with better lighting." Alan Dean Foster

Could we possible refrain from derailing this thread with personal agendas and pissing matches and restrict it to any new news about the actual crash?

Just asking.........................

Yes. Rest in Peace...
Pay respect for the families.

Something bothers me and maybe somebody else can answer it. In the United states we are pretty good about securing medical records but if you go before a judge and get a court order they are unlocked pretty fast. There seems to be a problem getting the doctor to release the pilots medical records even though he is dead and privacy shouldn't matter to him any longer. Am I missing something like German medical information more closely guarded than ours our? And if so, what will it take to open the medical records.

In any case, he seemed to spend some time in San Francisco so it's possible that was where he was treated while he was in the United States.

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There are medical privacy laws in place that are now suppressing information to the public.

They should NOT have suppressed any information to the authorities determining the airworthiness of any pilots given the lives of hundreds in their hands.

No private medical record should be held in secret when it comes to somebody who is solely responsible for the lives of hundreds of passengers. They should give up that right when they take on that responsibility.

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"Freedom is just Chaos, with better lighting." Alan Dean Foster

I said Rest in Peace in respect of the families involved.
I started this thread and it will be closed tomorrow.

I said Rest in Peace in respect of the families involved.
I started this thread and it will be closed tomorrow.

I would leave it open my friend.

For such and any new developments as might surface.

The case seems to be closed for now, but you do not know what might come up.

I did not ask for the thread to be closed. I only asked that the discussion be contained to the actual crash and not some posters delving off into rants unrelated to the actual event.

Leave it open to facts, not speculation.

Meow.

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"Freedom is just Chaos, with better lighting." Alan Dean Foster

There are medical privacy laws in place that are now suppressing information to the public.

They should NOT have suppressed any information to the authorities determining the airworthiness of any pilots given the lives of hundreds in their hands.

No private medical record should be held in secret when it comes to somebody who is solely responsible for the lives of hundreds of passengers. They should give up that right when they take on that responsibility.

However they do not in the USA. The reason is very simple. Their AME (Aero Medical Examiner) only has access to the records he knows about, and may share that information with the FAA. If the pilot goes to any other doctor those records are as sealed as yours or mine unless he discloses their existance. We don't have mandatory reporting to some central authority on the off chance some patient is a pilot.

Can you imagine what Obama care would look like if the government had everyone's medical records?!!!

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Can you imagine what Obama care would look like if the government had everyone's medical records?!!!

There is a difference between 'everyone's medical records' and those who are employed in the transporting of hundreds of lives.

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"Freedom is just Chaos, with better lighting." Alan Dean Foster

There are medical privacy laws in place that are now suppressing information to the public.

They should NOT have suppressed any information to the authorities determining the airworthiness of any pilots given the lives of hundreds in their hands.

No private medical record should be held in secret when it comes to somebody who is solely responsible for the lives of hundreds of passengers. They should give up that right when they take on that responsibility.

However they do not in the USA. The reason is very simple. Their AME (Aero Medical Examiner) only has access to the records he knows about, and may share that information with the FAA. If the pilot goes to any other doctor those records are as sealed as yours or mine unless he discloses their existance. We don't have mandatory reporting to some central authority on the off chance some patient is a pilot.

Can you imagine what Obama care would look like if the government had everyone's medical records?!!!

Under Obama care the government has access to all your medical records because the doctors must use a common recording system for your medical records. Your older records are safe unless somebody transfers them to the new system.
In this case, the note they found has the name of the doctor giving him sick time so they know where those records are. Because they know he took 6 months off for training for medical reasons, they have a starting point even if they don't have the doctors name. This type of investigation eats up large quantities of shoe leather and phone time but that is how many cases are solved.
I also suspect the pilot didn't have the financial resources to pay of that much care so somebody had to pay the bill. He may have even saved the doctors paper work for tax reasons or at least some record keeping. They took piles of paper work out of his house so maybe we will find out what it was.

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Can you imagine what Obama care would look like if the government had everyone's medical records?!!!

There is a difference between 'everyone's medical records' and those who are employed in the transporting of hundreds of lives.

When you go for your medical check, you sign a statement under perjury that you disclosed everything, however if you chose to lie there is no method for the government to catch it, unless it has access to everyone's medical records. The system is 100% voluntary. And that assumes you don't fib to the other doctor about your name, DOB and SSN, none of which matters for a cash patient.

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Can you imagine what Obama care would look like if the government had everyone's medical records?!!!

Under Obama care the government has access to all your medical records because the doctors must use a common recording system for your medical records.

No, not the government, but private insurance companies. They already had this information before Obama care, they just didn't have to share it.

Your older records are safe unless somebody transfers them to the new system.

This record keeping is a primary reason many doctors refuse to accept Obama care.

In this case, the note they found has the name of the doctor giving him sick time so they know where those records are. Because they know he took 6 months off for training for medical reasons, they have a starting point even if they don't have the doctors name. This type of investigation eats up large quantities of shoe leather and phone time but that is how many cases are solved.
I also suspect the pilot didn't have the financial resources to pay of that much care so somebody had to pay the bill.

Socialized medicine? I dang well know he wasn't putting down an insurance card for his employer. As an aside, doctors are cheap, it is lab tests that break the bank!

He may have even saved the doctors paper work for tax reasons or at least some record keeping. They took piles of paper work out of his house so maybe we will find out what it was.

I'm sure they will find out as it is now a criminal investigation.

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One day, such a lost mind might go rouge on the nukes.

The clock is ticking............

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"Freedom is just Chaos, with better lighting." Alan Dean Foster

Two more years from now.
I shall be gone from here.

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"Freedom is just Chaos, with better lighting." Alan Dean Foster

I said Rest in Peace in respect of the families involved.
I started this thread and it will be closed tomorrow.

I would leave it open my friend.

For such and any new developments as might surface.

The case seems to be closed for now, but you do not know what might come up.

I did not ask for the thread to be closed. I only asked that the discussion be contained to the actual crash and not some posters delving off into rants unrelated to the actual event.

Leave it open to facts, not speculation.

Meow.

You are right Mark. Thanks.
Arf Arf.

Speculations and Hyena behaivors though...
Grrrrr!

Here Fido. Here Fido.
C'mere little puppy . . . bring the slippers
"Arf, arf, arf!" (crash-crumble-bump-bump-bump)

Heh heh heh