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Message 1654658 - Posted: 19 Mar 2015, 21:12:10 UTC

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Wouldn't it be a good idea to turn *ON* this flag for few hours each week?
I was forced to reset project (have had a problem with Astropulse App - constant absence of output file at the end of task), and now I cannot get my tasks back...
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Message 1654664 - Posted: 19 Mar 2015, 21:33:03 UTC

They are not "Your" tasks.

You currently have >300 tasks out of a maximum, for your configuration, of 400, so there is nothing to worry about on that front. The most recent tasks were sent to you in the last few minutes.

However the real problem is your "absence of an output file" error - which is not showing up on your stats page. If this persists then you need to ask a question about that issue.
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Message 1654667 - Posted: 19 Mar 2015, 21:41:30 UTC - in response to Message 1654658.  
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Wouldn't it be a good idea to turn *ON* this flag for few hours each week?
I was forced to reset project (have had a problem with Astropulse App - constant absence of output file at the end of task), and now I cannot get my tasks back...

The alternative to getting your tasks back, they are allocated to your host so they are your tasks, But lost tasks, is to set NNT, complete what tasks you have, then do a Remove/Add project (Detach/Reattach Project in old Boinc speak), this will abandon your lost tasks and allow them to be sent to someone else, otherwise they'll sit around in limbo until they time out, probably four plus weeks in the future.

Doing the Remove/Add Project will also delete your compilations, and allow them to be regenerated. (Something a Project Reset doesn't do)

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Message 1654858 - Posted: 20 Mar 2015, 8:53:47 UTC - in response to Message 1654667.  

Wouldn't it be a good idea to turn *ON* this flag for few hours each week?
I was forced to reset project (have had a problem with Astropulse App - constant absence of output file at the end of task), and now I cannot get my tasks back...

The alternative to getting your tasks back, they are allocated to your host so they are your tasks, But lost tasks, is to set NNT, complete what tasks you have, then do a Remove/Add project (Detach/Reattach Project in old Boinc speak), this will abandon your lost tasks and allow them to be sent to someone else, otherwise they'll sit around in limbo until they time out, probably four plus weeks in the future.

Doing the Remove/Add Project will also delete your compilations, and allow them to be regenerated. (Something a Project Reset doesn't do)

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That might be a good idea. I hate the idea that those would wait for a month. With NNT I can grind through current tasks in a matter of hours. Then I'll get new AP tasks with easy. In retrospect I think that the problem with "no output files" was something along custom command line parameters :)

On the other hand I do not know what does your predecessor in discussion says...
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Message 1654866 - Posted: 20 Mar 2015, 9:39:44 UTC - in response to Message 1654858.  

Wouldn't it be a good idea to turn *ON* this flag for few hours each week?
I was forced to reset project (have had a problem with Astropulse App - constant absence of output file at the end of task), and now I cannot get my tasks back...

The alternative to getting your tasks back, they are allocated to your host so they are your tasks, But lost tasks, is to set NNT, complete what tasks you have, then do a Remove/Add project (Detach/Reattach Project in old Boinc speak), this will abandon your lost tasks and allow them to be sent to someone else, otherwise they'll sit around in limbo until they time out, probably four plus weeks in the future.

Doing the Remove/Add Project will also delete your compilations, and allow them to be regenerated. (Something a Project Reset doesn't do)

Claggy

That might be a good idea. I hate the idea that those would wait for a month. With NNT I can grind through current tasks in a matter of hours. Then I'll get new AP tasks with easy. In retrospect I think that the problem with "no output files" was something along custom command line parameters :)

On the other hand I do not know what does your predecessor in discussion says...

The 'output file' is the most important part of the whole procedure: that's what we're here for - to produce output files for the guys in the lab to look at.

If the output file is missing, then something has gone wrong at an earlier stage in the process. Just throwing away the old batch of workunits and replacing them with a new batch isn't going to change anything - whether you do it by remove/add, or whether the project does it by 'resend lost tasks' (BTW, I doubt the tasks are really 'lost' in the sense meant by that phrase). If you want to participate in the search for ET, I'm afraid you need to put a little effort (with the help of the guys here) into working out what is going wrong, and curing it.
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Message 1654869 - Posted: 20 Mar 2015, 9:44:30 UTC - in response to Message 1654866.  
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In retrospect I think that the problem with "no output files" was something along custom command line parameters :)
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The 'output file' is the most important part of the whole procedure: that's what we're here for - to produce output files for the guys in the lab to look at.

If the output file is missing, then something has gone wrong at an earlier stage in the process. Just throwing away the old batch of workunits and replacing them with a new batch isn't going to change anything - whether you do it by remove/add, or whether the project does it by 'resend lost tasks' (BTW, I doubt the tasks are really 'lost' in the sense meant by that phrase). If you want to participate in the search for ET, I'm afraid you need to put a little effort (with the help of the guys here) into working out what is going wrong, and curing it.


It seems you haven't "worked out" anything. Sorry...
Bolded it for you...

I just haven't thought about it before reseting a project. And since it is not common to have "Resent Lost Tasks" disabled, I was not expecting to lose those workunits.
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Message 1654873 - Posted: 20 Mar 2015, 9:51:26 UTC - in response to Message 1654869.  

It seems you haven't "worked out" anything. Sorry...
Bolded it for you...

To think that Richard do not read is absolute nonsense
 


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Message 1654879 - Posted: 20 Mar 2015, 10:14:43 UTC - in response to Message 1654873.  

It seems you haven't "worked out" anything. Sorry...
Bolded it for you...

To think that Richard do not read is absolute nonsense

Sadly, I'm possibly reading less than I usually do at the moment, for reasons which I will explain at some point over the weekend.

But I did want to draw attention to the difference between "missing output file" and "lost task": if the task is 'lost' in the technical sense, there will be no trace of it on your computer, and no messages from it. It's a contradiction to link the two concepts.

Any task which is processed to the point where "output file missing" might appear in the event log will show up in Error tasks for computer 7284006: at the moment there are just three, and they are all 'aborted by user' after partial processing by 'AstroPulse v7 v7.04 (opencl_ati_100)'. That's not my specialist application area, which is why I didn't attempt the diagnosis myself.

This looks like a particularly complicated computer to fault-find remotely, with

NVIDIA GeForce GTX 750 Ti (2048MB) driver: 344.11 OpenCL: 1.1,
[2] AMD AMD Radeon HD 7870/7950/7970/R9 280X series (Tahiti) (3072MB) driver: 1.4.1848 OpenCL: 1.2

That's why I felt that the initial research has to be done by the local end user, with help from the community here.
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