In the mean time, messages from Hitler were signed with his name and title.

Nope.

Hitler signed his messages Adolf Hitler, Fuhrer ( I am not sure how you make a U with a double dot over it).

Wrong again.
Have you been in the army and espacially the Signal Corps sending coded messages back and forth?
I have!

An umlaut is typed with alt + 0252

Thanks for letting us know.
DÜ Datei Übertragen (Data transmission) is your ENTER key on your keyboard.
Do you know what that key is called on a Teletype?

In the mean time, messages from Hitler were signed with his name and title.

Nope.

Hitler signed his messages Adolf Hitler, Fuhrer ( I am not sure how you make a U with a double dot over it).

Wrong again.
Have you been in the army and espacially the Signal Corps sending coded messages back and forth?
I have!

I don't think you are old enough to have served in World War II. If it were't for mistakes we wouldn't have been able to break the Germans codes. We don't use those codes or procedures for a reason today because we learned from the German mistakes.

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Also a large number of the messages from weather stations always started with the place, date, and time and ended with "Heil Hitler"

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Hitler signed his messages Adolf Hitler, Fuhrer ( I am not sure how you make a U with a double dot over it).

Wrong again.
Have you been in the army and espacially the Signal Corps sending coded messages back and forth?
I have![/quote]
I don't think you are old enough to have served in World War II..[/quote]

OF COURSE NOT.
I did my service in the Swedish Signal Corps back in the late 70's.
Very boring to send all these coded messages.
Espacially at 5 AM.
But listening to the Russian Army was fun:)
They did all the mistakes that you can do.

Also a large number of the messages from weather stations always started with the place, date, and time and ended with "Heil Hitler"

I forgot about those but you are right.

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Also a large number of the messages from weather stations always started with the place, date, and time and ended with "Heil Hitler"

I forgot about those but you are right.

That's how they told it in the "Imitation game" movie. Which is a must see for anyone interested in this topic.

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Also a large number of the messages from weather stations always started with the place, date, and time and ended with "Heil Hitler"

I forgot about those but you are right.

That's how they told it in the "Imitation game" movie. Which is a must see for anyone interested in this topic.

It was slightly more complicated than The Imitation Game suggested, however I did indeed enjoy the film.

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Also a large number of the messages from weather stations always started with the place, date, and time and ended with "Heil Hitler"

I forgot about those but you are right.

That's how they told it in the "Imitation game" movie. Which is a must see for anyone interested in this topic.

It was slightly more complicated than The Imitation Game suggested, however I did indeed enjoy the film.

Well movies do have to condense the story and edit it for drama...but it seems a good place to start to get a general overview.

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[quote]But I do know people who has fathers that did fought Russians in WWII

Ermmmm..... Russia was an ally in WWII.

Hmmmm:)
NOT Sweden and Finland!!!
You are really to much.
An old friend of mine's father fought Russians during WWII!!!

On 13 March 1940 a dark day in the history of Finland. "Moscow Peace" which then entered into force completed admittedly Winter War and Finland could be due to their opposition fail to be "people's republic" . But the price was high - and is highly topical.
Lars Gyllenhaal's grandfather's brother Gunnar in a Soviet bomb crater March 13, 1940.
https://translate.google.se/translate?sl=sv&tl=en&js=y&prev=_t&hl=sv&ie=UTF-8&u=http%3A%2F%2Ff%C3%B6rsvarsbloggare.se%2Fauthor%2Flars-gyllenhaal%2F&edit-text=

I can send you a PM about the Finnish Winter War.
It started for exactly 75 years and 2 Days ago:(

Do this:)
https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=enigma+machine
Most are videos about the enigma machine but not all.
Edit the URL to meet your own requests...

But listening to the Russian Army was fun:)
They did all the mistakes that you can do.

100+

Didn't listen, but read the translated transcripts. In the early 70's.

They never learn.
It's the same today:)
Just do what your commander says and for heaven's sake don't oppose him.

Are there any female Soldiers in the Russian Army?
Of course not. War is for real men.

A pine box is slang for a coffin. Now can we please get back to discussing Codes and ciphers, in the context of the Enigma machines, which I believe was the original intention of this thread. Don't forget also the German Lorenz machines which were also decrypted. and known as the Tunny.

Correct, but also the discussion of codes & Cyphers in general. I see that there is still a lot of confusion & b/s regarding Enigma.

The Imitation Game was a much better film than the 2001 fictionalised Enigma, however, the story of ultra was released by William Stevenson in 1976 titled "A Man called Intrepid" who was Sir William Stephenson (also known as "The Quiet Canadian") & was televised in a TV Series in 1979 with David Niven as Intrepid. Channel 4 also broadcast an excellent series titled "Station X" in 1999 & also released a book based on that series.

@Glenn It seems that you are mixing up a lot of information you've gleaned from various documentaries & making assumptions from what you've learned. Karl Donitz knew that the best way to force Britain to capitulate was to strangle our supply lines.

Enigma was a great aid for the Germans but the cracking of the Enigma code had nothing to do with forcing Britain to surrender - that was the lack of Naval escorts for the convoys. Had Britain been able to crack the codes early enough she still would not have been able to attack the u-boats in force - she lacked the ability to do that!

The 50 WWI destroyers given to us under the Lend/Lease program by the US helped & for a decent portrayal of that, see the film "Gift Horse" with Trevor Howard.

As for the first capture of a naval enigma, HMS Bulldog & U-110

What many do not realise & which Bernie highlighted was Germany's greatest flaw...

...they used Enigma for practically everything - big mistake.

...they used Enigma for practically everything - big mistake.

And using the same key over and over and over again:)

Enigma was a great aid for the Germans but the cracking of the Enigma code had nothing to do with forcing Britain to surrender - that was the lack of Naval escorts for the convoys. Had Britain been able to crack the codes early enough she still would not have been able to attack the u-boats in force - she lacked the ability to do that!

Cracking Enigma did allow England to reroute ships away from sub patrol areas. The happy times were a period of time when the German changed the Enigma procedures so we couldn't intercept the communications.

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Enigma was a great aid for the Germans but the cracking of the Enigma code had nothing to do with forcing Britain to surrender - that was the lack of Naval escorts for the convoys. Had Britain been able to crack the codes early enough she still would not have been able to attack the u-boats in force - she lacked the ability to do that!

Cracking Enigma did allow England to reroute ships away from sub patrol areas. The happy times were a period of time when the German changed the Enigma procedures so we couldn't intercept the communications.

True, but that only became effective when Britain had the means to attack. Don't forget that the Luftwaffe had great success also in attacking convoys.

Cracking Enigma did allow England to reroute ships away from sub patrol areas. The happy times were a period of time when the German changed the Enigma procedures so we couldn't intercept the communications

Sorry Dena not having a go at you it's just I could not give a better example of why the current Crypto Currency is not good and I really hope it does not cause us all a big problem .

To late now after the horse bolted to shut the gate !!!!

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What has Crypto currency & the US got to do with Cryptography? Codes & Cyphers were in existence long before the US became a nation.

Up until there availability the military where the only ones that had control of it now every one can .

Where was the first place they where released or should I say where are the organisations based !!!

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What has Crypto currency & the US got to do with Cryptography? Codes & Cyphers were in existence long before the US became a nation.

Other than Snowden being a US citizen and spilling all the operational and methods details to the world, likely nothing.
Can't be talking about Ron Rivest, Adi Shamir and Leonard Adleman because they aren't all US citizens. Neither are James H. Ellis, Clifford Cocks and Malcolm J. Williamson. But Phil Zimmermann, Ralph Merkle Whitfield Diffie and Martin Hellman are. It might help to know exactly who, or what publisher, he hss an issue with.

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