Another question and no constructive ideas from you, I'm sure your mind is better than that, why don't you show us. Your trolling does not flatter you

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Another question and no constructive ideas from you, I'm sure your mind is better than that, why don't you show us. Your trolling does not flatter you

As long as people reply .....

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These Threads are not important to me,

Something I realised quite a while ago.

As an outsider who hardly ever post here it was obvious to me.

Maybe others will see that now.

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These Threads are not important to me,

Something I realised quite a while ago.

As an outsider who hardly ever post here it was obvious to me.

Maybe others will see that now.

This is a matter of Life-or-Death, to you?

Why?

It's just a discussion. Correct?

Correct it bothers me not at all, no matter of life or death, however it seems to bother others.

They are like your straight men, feeding you the lines that you then make the comeback on.

Starts out as being entertaining, but gets boring quite quickly.

As I said it matters not to me so just carry on.

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I too, am getting very tired of them.

Maybe its the way you come across? If you're looking for conversation over beer, as you say, maybe you should try changing your tone and adjusting the juvenile comebacks and responses to be more conducive to discussion instead?

Just a thought.

I too, am getting very tired of them.

Maybe its the way you come across? If you're looking for conversation over beer, as you say, maybe you should try changing your tone and adjusting the juvenile comebacks and responses to be more conducive to discussion instead?

Just a thought.

Typical.

What 'juvenile comebacks'?

I guess you really can't see it, can you? You can only quickly point the finger back because that is all you know how to do to look like you're holding your own.

Can you stop. We ARE getting tired of you.

You might want to take something for that schizophrenia. :-P

I AGREE

I do agree. When one such as yourself reduces every discussion you're in to quick comebacks and broad, sweeping generalizations about every single person in this forum, then top it off with stating that these discussions are unimportant to you, and by proxy stating this community is unimportant to you, then it seems to be a reasonable conclusion that you are only here for the lulz. A.k.a. a troll.

If you would like to change that perception, I would suggest changing your attitude and start looking inward.

Just a thought.

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I AGREE

I do agree. When one such as yourself reduces every discussion you're in to quick comebacks and broad, sweeping generalizations about every single person in this forum, then top it off with stating that these discussions are unimportant to you, and by proxy stating this community is unimportant to you, then it seems to be a reasonable conclusion that you are only here for the lulz. A.k.a. a troll.

If you would like to change that perception, I would suggest changing your attitude and start looking inward.

Just a thought.

Although I do not like calling people trolls just because they have different opinions, the evidence is beginning to stack up that Clyde is just here to stir the pot and cause agitation.

So I +1 your statement.

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Another question and no constructive ideas from you, I'm sure your mind is better than that, why don't you show us. Your trolling does not flatter you

Betreger (and many others here),

Perhaps, if Clyde's asking questions like he does bothers you, you might not be familiar with The Socratic Method.

Socratic method , also known as method of elenchus, elenctic method, or Socratic debate, is named after the classical Greek philosopher Socrates. It is a form of inquiry and discussion between individuals, based on asking and answering questions to stimulate critical thinking and to illuminate ideas.

Clyde, as a former College Professor/Instructor, is doubtlessly familiar with this teaching method and has made extensive use of it in his classes.

It starts with asking certain questions. But very seldom does it progress further, since almost no one here engages with him.

I was under the impression that this 'Politics' sub-forum's purpose was the constructive exchange of ideas and viewpoints.

It seems that a number of posters (and sadly, it seems, more than one moderator) here would rather answer Clyde's questions with ad hominem. While none of us are immune from the occasional delve into ad hominem, many take it to extreme here against Clyde.

Now, I don't agree with Clyde on everything, but when I do disagree with him on something important I try to logically refute his position, not engage in assassinating his character.

Furthermore, I was under the impression that use of the term 'troll' had been ruled as offensively abusive, therefore rule violating. Please, everyone, can we all stop using it?

Furthermore, moderators here who join in the abuse, or even just publicly approve of it, might need to reconsider being a moderator and resign their position. Moderators need to remain impartial and above the fray, so to speak.

What will we have around here? A respectful exchange of viewpoints with well-reasoned logical support of said viewpoints? Or a mutual admiration society guilty of abuse of those that don't agree with their version of 'the conventional wisdom'?

Clyde, as a former College Professor/Instructor, is doubtlessly familiar with this teaching method and has made extensive use of it in his classes.

It starts with asking certain questions. But very seldom does it progress further, since almost no one here engages with him.

Clyde isn't engaging in the Socratic method. He makes broad generalizations, insults others ("unthinking liberals" is anyone that disagrees with his views), refuses to answer direct questions, attacks others as a misdirection of the topic, and providers his own answers to questions he poses to people indicating his views on others are already made up... then you come along and accuse us of assassinating his character?

I was under the impression that this 'Politics' sub-forum's purpose was the constructive exchange of ideas and viewpoints.

None of which happens in any thread Clyde joins in. The theme is to attack everyone else as unthinking, then engage in the "strong offense is the best defense" strategy.

It seems that a number of posters (and sadly, it seems, more than one moderator) here would rather answer Clyde's questions with ad hominem. While none of us are immune from the occasional delve into ad hominem, many take it to extreme here against Clyde.

A number of posters would rather answer Clyde's questions with ad hom? Really? So Clyde is engaging in the Socratic method, asking pertinent questions, and it is all of us who refuse to answer his questions?

Furthermore, I was under the impression that use of the term 'troll' had been ruled as offensively abusive, therefore rule violating. Please, everyone, can we all stop using it?

What happens when the shoe actually fits though? If he is not here to troll, how come he never answers direct questions asked of him? Or how come he is allowed to continue making broad strokes and sweeping generalizations toward everyone on the forum here?

Furthermore, moderators here who join in the abuse, or even just publicly approve of it, might need to reconsider being a moderator and resign their position. Moderators need to remain impartial and above the fray, so to speak.

Odd. As a former moderator, I was quite active in the Politics forum, gave my opinions openly, and insisted I could remain impartial despite having an opinion. If I felt I couldn't I would privately recuse myself on the Modlist. I don't think asking for a Mod to resign because you don't approve of them having an opinion is appropriate. They have opinions regardless if they speak them. Better to know where they stand than to kick everyone out for speaking up.

What will we have around here? A respectful exchange of viewpoints with well-reasoned logical support of said viewpoints? Or a mutual admiration society guilty of abuse of those that don't agree with their version of 'the conventional wisdom'?

I don't think anyone has a problem with Clyde disagreeing. Please don't paint the argument in such a false light. The only problem is Clyde's refusal to stop insulting everyone with his broad strokes.

Another question and no constructive ideas from you, I'm sure your mind is better than that, why don't you show us. Your trolling does not flatter you

Betreger (and many others here),

Perhaps, if Clyde's asking questions like he does bothers you, you might not be familiar with The Socratic Method.

I think a lot of people here are familiar with the Socratic method. That is not what Clyde is doing.

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It starts with asking certain questions. But very seldom does it progress further, since almost no one here engages with him.

Those of us that try pretty soon discover that we're not in Kansas anymore and have to then put up with a stream of name calling from him. I have been called a vile Nazi by him too many times to count.

Vile is such a favourite word of his that I am beginning to wonder if he knows what it means.

I was under the impression that this 'Politics' sub-forum's purpose was the constructive exchange of ideas and viewpoints.

The key word there is 'constructive'. Clyde has admitted that this is not his purpose here.

It seems that a number of posters (and sadly, it seems, more than one moderator) here would rather answer Clyde's questions with ad hominem. While none of us are immune from the occasional delve into ad hominem, many take it to extreme here against Clyde.

I am wondering if you aware of Clydes many postings over this forum and if you are aware that some of us are getting fed up with trying to engage with him, only to end up being insulted every time we challenge his opinion.

Now, I don't agree with Clyde on everything, but when I do disagree with him on something important I try to logically refute his position, not engage in assassinating his character.

Good for you. I am sure however that once he's called you a vile Nazi or some other similar epithet enough times, you will also lose your patience.

Furthermore, I was under the impression that use of the term 'troll' had been ruled as offensively abusive, therefore rule violating. Please, everyone, can we all stop using it?

I totally agree that troll is an insult. Shall we then just point out that Clyde is displaying trolling behaviour and leave it there?

Furthermore, moderators here who join in the abuse, or even just publicly approve of it, might need to reconsider being a moderator and resign their position. Moderators need to remain impartial and above the fray, so to speak.

I have a couple of options here. I can allow the group to point out to Clyde that he is acting in a trollish manner in the hope that he will take it on board. Or I can start removing posts and locking threads. I would prefer that the issue was settled with a more long term solution.

What will we have around here? A respectful exchange of viewpoints with well-reasoned logical support of said viewpoints? Or a mutual admiration society guilty of abuse of those that don't agree with their version of 'the conventional wisdom'?

Indeed. I think that is the very point the people here are trying to make.

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'Is' This Thread about Political CONvEnience of Madame Yoga, or

Posting 'habits' of Madame 'Clyde', Mister 99, The Charpster, GrandDad 'Bet'He Posts One Line, FanOfOzzLand and 'Others'?

Does Not Matter to Me, along as 'it' Keeps The Thread Up Top of Da Page.

Got Yoga?

Then Stretch 'it' and Bend 'it' Real GOoD.

Madame Yoga fO Prez in '16. Vote Your CONscious.

Keep dat Server PrivatE, Broheims and Brohiemettes.

Yep

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May we All have a METAMORPHOSIS. REASON. GOoD JUDGEMENT and LOVE and ORDER!!!!!

Furthermore, I was under the impression that use of the term 'troll' had been ruled as offensively abusive, therefore rule violating. Please, everyone, can we all stop using it?

If someone has described themselves as XYZ, could calling them XYZ in return be offensive?

As to the situation, obviously the mods are spending time on it. Perhaps Dr. A. needs to spend some time on the web interface. So that when an account is put on ignore by a user, it displays the same as an account on banish displays (not at all). I have a feeling that would be the best solution to the issue and let everyone get back to enjoyment.

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I Will Post As They Want Me To. I Will Say What They Agree With. I Will Post In A Community Wholesome, Welcoming Way.
I Will Post to Accumulate Many Forum Friends in My List. All Moderators Will Smile when I Post, Knowing I Will Abide by Rules.
Ignore Filters will Collect Dust due to My Perfect Posting of Non-Insulting, Agreeable Discourse. I Will Not I.D., Clyde, or Dull up the Boards. I Am Determined to Post, The Perfect, Acceptable by Everyone, Post.

I Will Post Pleasantly or I Will Perish.

And I Will Vote for Madame Yoga, So Help Me PrivatE Server.

'It' Will Be, Certainly, ALL GOoD.

Yep.

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May we All have a METAMORPHOSIS. REASON. GOoD JUDGEMENT and LOVE and ORDER!!!!!

I Will Post As They Want Me To. I Will Say What They Agree With. I Will Post In A Community Wholesome, Welcoming Way.
I Will Post to Accumulate Many Forum Friends in My List. All Moderators Will Smile when I Post, Knowing I Will Abide by Rules.
Ignore Filters will Collect Dust due to My Perfect Posting of Non-Insulting, Agreeable Discourse. I Will Not I.D., Clyde, or Dull up the Boards. I Am Determined to Post, The Perfect, Acceptable by Everyone, Post.

I Will Post Pleasantly or I Will Perish.

And I Will Vote for Madame Yoga, So Help Me PrivatE Server.

'It' Will Be, Certainly, ALL GOoD.

Yep.

LMAO. I will say there is never a DULL moment when you start a thread, Sit back and watch the fur fly.

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Old James

More email Shenanigans

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Reality Internet Personality

More email Shenanigans

OK... We do understand Politicians, Left - Center - Right, are...

Why believe differently?

Make a statement don't ask a question. Your style I find offensive.

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President

I Told You not to bother me While I'm Yoga-ing. What? I Told You already, Drop The Bombs on Israel, I I I er er mean, Drop The Bombs on Iran, and don't Contact Me again, Until 'It's' D O N E, Done. Hear Me?

Mother Frakk! Bothering Me at 3AM, again, while I'm Doing My Yoga. #@.%&@!.5@#!&*%!!!

Yep. Madame Yoga fO Prez '16.

Yep

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May we All have a METAMORPHOSIS. REASON. GOoD JUDGEMENT and LOVE and ORDER!!!!!

All Deleted. Server Once Messy, Now Spotless. Clean 'is' GOoD.

Bend 'it' Like Billery.

Soon, American Voters will Clean Up Mess.

And Get Into Another.

Dirty 'is' As Dirty Does.

Yep.

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May we All have a METAMORPHOSIS. REASON. GOoD JUDGEMENT and LOVE and ORDER!!!!!

And there goes her big shot at being The PREZ. She will be destroyed if she runs.

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Old James