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Message 1645257 - Posted: 22 Feb 2015, 11:22:55 UTC

Oh, we are going Here again, are we?
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Message 1645348 - Posted: 22 Feb 2015, 18:04:24 UTC - in response to Message 1645222.  

I pledge a donation of $100 to SETI@Home on Monday 2015-Feb.-23 if, and only if, userID 421968 is able to post to these forums under the name "msattler" on that date. So, his choice.

(Edit: Just so it isn't misinterpreted, I'm offering an incentive to Mark to stay within the guidelines... not bribing the moderators to not enforce them! Yes, I know it's obvious to most.)


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I just saw this, so to put any concerns at rest about whether this would have any impact on my decision to ban or not to ban Mark, I can assure you it would absolutely not.

It would take far more than a mere $100 to stay my had. You'd have to add quite a few zero's on that...and even then....

What did stay my hand last night was that Mark appeared to listen to my warning.

That will be the last warning I give him this weekend as I have an essay to write and no time to clean up kitty mess. How much the other mods feel they can deal with is totally up to them.
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Message 1645351 - Posted: 22 Feb 2015, 18:21:33 UTC - in response to Message 1645348.  
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What did stay my hand last night was that Mark appeared to listen to my warning.


Good... there is still hope then.

Edit: As per the latest addition to the thread, I'm editing out the rest and will say nothing more until Monday.
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Message 1645352 - Posted: 22 Feb 2015, 18:23:00 UTC

Banishment is a tool that moderators use when they need relief from a poster who is taxing their patience unduly. Different moderating teams have different levels of collective patience.

I know that some of you will be up-in-arms because this does not seem "consistent" or "fair" to you. This is, I suspect, because you see banishment as a punishment. Please free yourself from this notion if you can. Banishment is only a tool that our moderators are free to use, or not use, at their discretion.
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Message 1645355 - Posted: 22 Feb 2015, 18:28:37 UTC

Personally, all I see are long standing crunchers of this project attacking a fellow cruncher. We are all aware of Mark's tendency to go OTT & leave it to the mod team to act where necessary.

In this case, both those crunchers & Mark himself are at fault here by creating threads such as these, which only invites those attacks.

As in the last thread, I find it distasteful.

It should have been either locked or hidden immediately it got personal.

I'll ask again: - Is this project's boundaries being pushed too far?
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Message 1645361 - Posted: 22 Feb 2015, 18:30:53 UTC
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If I were an alien, I am not, and I was studying on earth, and I found out about this project,
perhaps I would study here. I may be just trying to find out how humans treat each other as
a guide to how humans may react to "aliens" should they ever meet them.
How do you think we are doing to-day?
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Message 1645371 - Posted: 22 Feb 2015, 18:40:38 UTC - in response to Message 1645361.  

A quick look at the project followed by a look at the world, I'd flee the planet PDQ & place a "Quarantine" notice around the planet: -

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Message 1645375 - Posted: 22 Feb 2015, 18:43:01 UTC - in response to Message 1645361.  
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If I were an alien, I am not, and I was studying on earth, and I found out about this project,
perhaps I would study here. I may be just trying to find out how humans treat each other as
a guide to how humans may react to "aliens" should they ever meet them.
How do you think we are doing to-day?

I think we are not pretending that someone in our midst doesn't have a problem.

Is it the right thing to do?

In the end that is up to Mark. If he wants posts removed or his thread closed he can ask and he will be listened to.

All I can do is make sure that the rest of you can post in peace as you wish.
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Message 1645376 - Posted: 22 Feb 2015, 18:44:57 UTC - in response to Message 1645361.  

If I were an alien, I am not, and I was studying on earth, and I found out about this project,
perhaps I would study here. I may be just trying to find out how humans treat each other as
a guide to how humans may react to "aliens" should they ever meet them.
How do you think we are doing to-day?


You're not? Must say that surprises me ;))
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Message 1645379 - Posted: 22 Feb 2015, 18:52:27 UTC

If I were an alien, I am not,...

Thank you, Celt, for clarifying that!!! Had you, too, been from another planet, I think I would have been on the verge of agreeing with a dear friend who said elsewhere, "We have too much immigration".
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Message 1645380 - Posted: 22 Feb 2015, 18:53:14 UTC - in response to Message 1645379.  

If I were an alien, I am not,...

Thank you, Celt, for clarifying that!!! Had you, too, been from another planet, I think I would have been on the verge of agreeing with a dear friend who said elsewhere, "We have too much immigration".


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Message 1645407 - Posted: 22 Feb 2015, 20:41:20 UTC
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Time for me to add my couple....
I am thankful that there is a mod crew here on Seti.
If not for them riding shotgun, I might get way over the top.
Not that I don't approach it even so.

I have more than once expressed my thankfulness to those who have the power to work over every word I post.
Most times, they do not.

On the few occasions where I get totally whacked and out of line, they take over.
This is NOT unappreciated by me.

Even if I rail against it at first, I generally come to see that they are correct, and I am not.

Thank you, mods. My voice here is strong and true, but you have the final say.

And you have been kind and just recently in your restraint.
It is appreciated, and I just think that once in a while you should hear that coming from the front end of the horse rather than the backside.

And the rest of you can all say AMEN.
As my sermon has ended for now.
"Freedom is just Chaos, with better lighting." Alan Dean Foster

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Message 1645409 - Posted: 22 Feb 2015, 20:44:31 UTC - in response to Message 1645379.  

"We have too much immigration".




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Message 1645416 - Posted: 22 Feb 2015, 21:30:39 UTC

And keep on betting, folks.
You are gonna lose quite a few, because I am here to stay this time.
That would be both a promise and a threat to some.
Fact of the matter is...I am not going away.
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Message 1645419 - Posted: 22 Feb 2015, 21:45:20 UTC
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I shall get to where I am going sooner or later.

You can run ahead of me, you can chase behind me.
Or, you can choose to run alongside me.

Elbow to elbow.
I run the same pace with or without you.
Your choice. I was put here for a simple reason.
To share some things that otherwise you would have never known.
That is what God placed me here to do.

What other person on this earth has done what I have?
None.
What other person on this earth has told you secrets that I have?
None.

Would the Seti project be lesser or greater other than my being here?
Yours to judge, I guess.

This is my life's achievement.
This is what I have done.
It can be erased in a moment by some who do not understand the significance.
Not my problem anymore.

I have 3 14yo cats that are requiring most of my attention these days, and I am not gonna waste much more time with your kvetching here.
Tigger II is standing here eyeballing me as I type this. She needs petting again.

If I am fodder for your jokes, OK.
Anger misdirected could be considered folly.

Fun at my expense?
Jesus, have at it.
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Message 1646008 - Posted: 24 Feb 2015, 14:28:26 UTC
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Now that it's no longer Monday anywhere on Earth: I'm quite surprised and happy to have lost this bet.

You gave $100.00
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Message 1646283 - Posted: 25 Feb 2015, 7:53:20 UTC

Thank you very much, Mr. Kevvy!
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