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Message 1636868 - Posted: 3 Feb 2015, 3:49:58 UTC - in response to Message 1636859.  

The REAL political power in the USA is

the Koch Brothers, the guys that created The Tea Party around 1992.

How come you guys never talk about George Soros and his buddies?
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Message 1636876 - Posted: 3 Feb 2015, 4:43:40 UTC - in response to Message 1636868.  

How come you guys never talk about George Soros and his buddies?

Because he is not evil?
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Message 1636877 - Posted: 3 Feb 2015, 5:01:50 UTC - in response to Message 1636876.  

How come you guys never talk about George Soros and his buddies?

Because he is not evil?

I find it hard to believe somebody who worked with the Nazis, broke the bank of England and contributes huge amounts of money to the Democratic party in order to gain power isn't evil.
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Message 1637117 - Posted: 4 Feb 2015, 0:20:50 UTC - in response to Message 1636868.  

The REAL political power in the USA is

the Koch Brothers, the guys that created The Tea Party around 1992.

How come you guys never talk about George Soros and his buddies?

Because no one has brought forth evidence, that I am aware of, that Soros or Bloomberg or whomever created a fake grass-roots movement that took 15-20 years to catch on.
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Message 1637118 - Posted: 4 Feb 2015, 0:22:18 UTC - in response to Message 1636877.  

How come you guys never talk about George Soros and his buddies?

Because he is not evil?

I find it hard to believe somebody who worked with the Nazis, broke the bank of England and contributes huge amounts of money to the Democratic party in order to gain power isn't evil.


Werner von Braun meets at least category one.
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Message 1637138 - Posted: 4 Feb 2015, 1:15:35 UTC - in response to Message 1637117.  

The REAL political power in the USA is

the Koch Brothers, the guys that created The Tea Party around 1992.

How come you guys never talk about George Soros and his buddies?

Because no one has brought forth evidence, that I am aware of, that Soros or Bloomberg or whomever created a fake grass-roots movement that took 15-20 years to catch on.

Your understanding of the tea party is a work of fiction. The tea party consist of many local groups that communicate with each other. There is no single point of control. This is why the left is so afraid of something they have no way to control. The Republican don't think much of the tea party for the same reason. The one common theme of all tea party groups is the government has grown to big and it needs to be reduced so it's not telling us what to do in every little detail of our life. Currently the government is telling us what to eat, which doctor to see, if we smoke it attempts to stop us with very high taxes and it even tells us how to raise our kids. People hate to be told what to do by somebody who has no clue about their lifestyle. Would you like it if a tea party member told you how to live your life? Well they don't want you telling them how to live.
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Message 1637158 - Posted: 4 Feb 2015, 2:48:10 UTC - in response to Message 1637138.  

Dena, I think you are unaware that those tea parties of yore which were allegedly libertarian have ceased to exist; the ones that exist today are 110% christian fundamentalists under group control taking their marching orders via Rupert Murdoch's Opinion. I used to think that there were libertarians in the tea parties, but their 100% government control of the bedroom issues simply prove them to be as statist as Stalin.
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Message 1637162 - Posted: 4 Feb 2015, 3:07:52 UTC - in response to Message 1637158.  

Dena, I think you are unaware that those tea parties of yore which were allegedly libertarian have ceased to exist; the ones that exist today are 110% christian fundamentalists under group control taking their marching orders via Rupert Murdoch's Opinion. I used to think that there were libertarians in the tea parties, but their 100% government control of the bedroom issues simply prove them to be as statist as Stalin.

Groups are allowed to pursue any issues they may want and some have Christian platforms which I think could backfire. You might want to look at this link which lacks a single Christian issue. Tea Party Patriots
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Your understanding of the tea party is a work of fiction. The tea party consist of many local groups that communicate with each other. There is no single point of control. This is why the left is so afraid of something they have no way to control. The Republican don't think much of the tea party for the same reason. The one common theme of all tea party groups is the government has grown to big and it needs to be reduced so it's not telling us what to do in every little detail of our life. Currently the government is telling us what to eat, which doctor to see, if we smoke it attempts to stop us with very high taxes and it even tells us how to raise our kids. People hate to be told what to do by somebody who has no clue about their lifestyle. Would you like it if a tea party member told you how to live your life? Well they don't want you telling them how to live.


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Let Ted Nugent Look-a-Likes and San Simeon Elitists Spew On. They are So Laughable, it hurts when I ROTFLMAO. at them.

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Message 1637168 - Posted: 4 Feb 2015, 3:58:52 UTC - in response to Message 1637167.  

Your understanding of the tea party is a work of fiction. The tea party consist of many local groups that communicate with each other. There is no single point of control. This is why the left is so afraid of something they have no way to control. The Republican don't think much of the tea party for the same reason. The one common theme of all tea party groups is the government has grown to big and it needs to be reduced so it's not telling us what to do in every little detail of our life. Currently the government is telling us what to eat, which doctor to see, if we smoke it attempts to stop us with very high taxes and it even tells us how to raise our kids. People hate to be told what to do by somebody who has no clue about their lifestyle. Would you like it if a tea party member told you how to live your life? Well they don't want you telling them how to live.


Dat's Right. Yep

Let Ted Nugent Look-a-Likes and San Simeon Elitists Spew On. They are So Laughable, it hurts when I ROTFLMAO. at them.

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What I can't understand about the left is they talk about personal freedom all the time but they are the first ones to make the government so powerful that you have no freedom. I just can't see the logic of the left.
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Message 1637226 - Posted: 4 Feb 2015, 7:17:59 UTC - in response to Message 1637138.  

The REAL political power in the USA is

the Koch Brothers, the guys that created The Tea Party around 1992.

How come you guys never talk about George Soros and his buddies?

Because no one has brought forth evidence, that I am aware of, that Soros or Bloomberg or whomever created a fake grass-roots movement that took 15-20 years to catch on.

Your understanding of the tea party is a work of fiction. The tea party consist of many local groups that communicate with each other. There is no single point of control. This is why the left is so afraid of something they have no way to control. The Republican don't think much of the tea party for the same reason. The one common theme of all tea party groups is the government has grown to big and it needs to be reduced so it's not telling us what to do in every little detail of our life. Currently the government is telling us what to eat, which doctor to see, if we smoke it attempts to stop us with very high taxes and it even tells us how to raise our kids. People hate to be told what to do by somebody who has no clue about their lifestyle. Would you like it if a tea party member told you how to live your life? Well they don't want you telling them how to live.

My understanding is based on cached documents from the early days of the web. :)
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Message 1637227 - Posted: 4 Feb 2015, 7:19:51 UTC - in response to Message 1637168.  

Your understanding of the tea party is a work of fiction. The tea party consist of many local groups that communicate with each other. There is no single point of control. This is why the left is so afraid of something they have no way to control. The Republican don't think much of the tea party for the same reason. The one common theme of all tea party groups is the government has grown to big and it needs to be reduced so it's not telling us what to do in every little detail of our life. Currently the government is telling us what to eat, which doctor to see, if we smoke it attempts to stop us with very high taxes and it even tells us how to raise our kids. People hate to be told what to do by somebody who has no clue about their lifestyle. Would you like it if a tea party member told you how to live your life? Well they don't want you telling them how to live.


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blah blah blah.

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What I can't understand about the left is they talk about personal freedom all the time but they are the first ones to make the government so powerful that you have no freedom. I just can't see the logic of the left.


What I can't understand about some of the right is if someone disagrees with them about some things, the disagreer must be a leftist libber What a frackin' joke.
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Message 1637229 - Posted: 4 Feb 2015, 7:23:33 UTC - in response to Message 1637227.  

What I can't understand about some of the right is if someone disagrees with them about some things, the disagreer must be a leftist libber What a frackin' joke.
Sounds just like what happens when someone disagrees with a leftist libber and is assumed to be a rightist money grubbing thief.
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Message 1637231 - Posted: 4 Feb 2015, 7:25:23 UTC - in response to Message 1637167.  

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Let ... San Simeon Elitists Spew On. They are So Laughable, it hurts when I ROTFLMAO. at them.

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Yep, let fake non-elitists label others as elitists after assuming much about their lives. Yep. THAT is TRULY laughable.
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Message 1637233 - Posted: 4 Feb 2015, 7:25:57 UTC - in response to Message 1637229.  

What I can't understand about some of the right is if someone disagrees with them about some things, the disagreer must be a leftist libber What a frackin' joke.
Sounds just like what happens when someone disagrees with a leftist libber and is assumed to be a rightist money grubbing thief.

But, I haven't called you that in 7 years! :)
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Message 1637236 - Posted: 4 Feb 2015, 7:29:30 UTC - in response to Message 1636868.  

The REAL political power in the USA is

the Koch Brothers, the guys that created The Tea Party around 1992.

How come you guys never talk about George Soros and his buddies?

Moreover, the Koch brothers are low hanging fruit in a sense.
Many people on the left and right and in the middle agree, get Citizens United reversed. Get the big money out of campaigns, out of politics. I heard/read never anyone say, get only Koch brother money out, but let Soros' continue, let the unions continue and so on, or vice versa. ALL OF IT. If anyone does, I imagine it is a small minority.
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Message 1637304 - Posted: 4 Feb 2015, 10:37:30 UTC - in response to Message 1637158.  

Dena, I think you are unaware that those tea parties of yore which were allegedly libertarian have ceased to exist; the ones that exist today are 110% christian fundamentalists under group control taking their marching orders via Rupert Murdoch's Opinion. I used to think that there were libertarians in the tea parties, but their 100% government control of the bedroom issues simply prove them to be as statist as Stalin.


This is my understanding as well. I originally admired the Tea Party's initial goals, but saw it quickly get taken over by fundamentalists, both uber-conservative and Christian alike. The current Tea Party, despite their party line on their website, has shown itself to be a shell of it's former self.
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Message 1637366 - Posted: 4 Feb 2015, 14:56:12 UTC - in response to Message 1637304.  

Dena, I think you are unaware that those tea parties of yore which were allegedly libertarian have ceased to exist; the ones that exist today are 110% christian fundamentalists under group control taking their marching orders via Rupert Murdoch's Opinion. I used to think that there were libertarians in the tea parties, but their 100% government control of the bedroom issues simply prove them to be as statist as Stalin.


This is my understanding as well. I originally admired the Tea Party's initial goals, but saw it quickly get taken over by fundamentalists, both uber-conservative and Christian alike. The current Tea Party, despite their party line on their website, has shown itself to be a shell of it's former self.

That particular version of tea flavor koolaid seems to only have affiliates in a few communities surrounding Richard Nixon's birthplace. Nor does it seem to have anything to do with the other unified tea flavor of koolaid http://www.teaparty.org/
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Message 1637461 - Posted: 4 Feb 2015, 20:17:33 UTC - in response to Message 1637366.  

Dena, I think you are unaware that those tea parties of yore which were allegedly libertarian have ceased to exist; the ones that exist today are 110% christian fundamentalists under group control taking their marching orders via Rupert Murdoch's Opinion. I used to think that there were libertarians in the tea parties, but their 100% government control of the bedroom issues simply prove them to be as statist as Stalin.


This is my understanding as well. I originally admired the Tea Party's initial goals, but saw it quickly get taken over by fundamentalists, both uber-conservative and Christian alike. The current Tea Party, despite their party line on their website, has shown itself to be a shell of it's former self.

That particular version of tea flavor koolaid seems to only have affiliates in a few communities surrounding Richard Nixon's birthplace. Nor does it seem to have anything to do with the other unified tea flavor of koolaid http://www.teaparty.org/

When I look at it, I get local Arizona groups. The web site is smart enough to only give you places that are near you.
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