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Bob DeWoody Send message Joined: 9 May 10 Posts: 3387 Credit: 4,182,900 RAC: 10 |
IF an alien intelligence wanted to leave us a message, but only to be detected after we had reached a certain level of advancement wouldn't objects like these found on Ceres and Pluto be an ideal way to do so? Neither could be spotted from earth, even with the most powerful telescopes, and yet stand out like a sore thumb once approached either by probes or manned missions. I do rather doubt these things are something other than natural phenomena but just maybe something else is going on. Bob DeWoody My motto: Never do today what you can put off until tomorrow as it may not be required. This no longer applies in light of current events. |
Bob DeWoody Send message Joined: 9 May 10 Posts: 3387 Credit: 4,182,900 RAC: 10 |
Sorry Bob, I think you are thinking obelisks from 2001 Odyssey ..... Something like that. I am 99% sure that nothing like that exists and I know the difference between science fiction and science fact. But the possibility, no matter how small, does exist. Bob DeWoody My motto: Never do today what you can put off until tomorrow as it may not be required. This no longer applies in light of current events. |
Gary Charpentier Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 30608 Credit: 53,134,872 RAC: 32 |
May find out it is a dead comet and the bright spots are the last of its ice. |
tullio Send message Joined: 9 Apr 04 Posts: 8797 Credit: 2,930,782 RAC: 1 |
I believe spots are from a heat source below them. It looks like a hot reactor vessel on the left and some heat exchanger pipes on the right. Science fiction? Tullio |
KLiK Send message Joined: 31 Mar 14 Posts: 1304 Credit: 22,994,597 RAC: 60 |
I believe spots are from a heat source below them. It looks like a hot reactor vessel on the left and some heat exchanger pipes on the right. Science fiction? this? http://starwarsthegalacticcommands.wikia.com/wiki/Asteroid_Base ;) non-profit org. Play4Life in Zagreb, Croatia, EU |
KLiK Send message Joined: 31 Mar 14 Posts: 1304 Credit: 22,994,597 RAC: 60 |
Can we all calm down folks, the claims and speculations are getting wilder every day ...... we r calm...just JOKING around! :D non-profit org. Play4Life in Zagreb, Croatia, EU |
Gary Charpentier Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 30608 Credit: 53,134,872 RAC: 32 |
I am left with the decision to stop posting here until further notice.See I told all of you it would work if we worked together :) |
Bob DeWoody Send message Joined: 9 May 10 Posts: 3387 Credit: 4,182,900 RAC: 10 |
Ok, we have a science forum here, presumably intended to be for serious comment, but with two threads about Pluto and Ceres, where it seems that all people want to do is joke around. Aww comon Chris, until enough data is gathered to make an educated guess as to the nature of the phenomena seen first on Ceres and now new unexpected features on Pluto, making wild guesses as to their nature is just a way to relieve tension. Bob DeWoody My motto: Never do today what you can put off until tomorrow as it may not be required. This no longer applies in light of current events. |
tullio Send message Joined: 9 Apr 04 Posts: 8797 Credit: 2,930,782 RAC: 1 |
It is only a problem of pattern recognition. See K.S.Fu "Statistical pattern recognition". Tullio |
tullio Send message Joined: 9 Apr 04 Posts: 8797 Credit: 2,930,782 RAC: 1 |
Also Dawn has suffered a hiccup, like New Horizons, and is in a holding orbit.New Horizons has as CPUs a radiation hardened version of the MIPSR3000 CPU, a RISC processor, that I have used in the Nineties while working in Trieste Area Science Park. New Horizons has two independent computer units, one dedicated to navigation and one for scientific work, each with its own backup. So it has 4 CPUs. Tullio |
William Rothamel Send message Joined: 25 Oct 06 Posts: 3756 Credit: 1,999,735 RAC: 4 |
See K.S.Fu "Statistical pattern recognition". We have just received a letter from Purdue It comes from the learned Doctor Fu If systems discrete and adaptive are your mete, Then send us your papers for review |
tullio Send message Joined: 9 Apr 04 Posts: 8797 Credit: 2,930,782 RAC: 1 |
The dr,Fu I was referring to has died from a heart attack while attending a conference. Tullio |
William Rothamel Send message Joined: 25 Oct 06 Posts: 3756 Credit: 1,999,735 RAC: 4 |
Tullio Yes it is the same Doctor Fu--he was at Purdue University-I had two siblings who graduated from there. I used to travel to West Lafayette for the Illinois-Purdue football games where the loser had to push an Old Oaken Bucket between the two schools a distance of 91 miles as a traveling trophy. I suspect that the pushing part was mostly folklore. We studied Dr Fu's work 50 years ago at the Army's Electronics Command when we were looking at uses for "Artificial Intelligence" style technology. We studied the Avian retina in which the processing is done in the eye--as opposed to the human where most of the processing is done in the brain. Birds have motion detectors, edge detectors and bug detectors built into their eyes. |
tullio Send message Joined: 9 Apr 04 Posts: 8797 Credit: 2,930,782 RAC: 1 |
Dawn is going to a lower orbit. We shall have more images. Tullio |
Lynn Send message Joined: 20 Nov 00 Posts: 14162 Credit: 79,603,650 RAC: 123 |
Interesting. Strange Bright Spots on Ceres Create Mini-Atmosphere on Dwarf Planet The investigation into the dwarf planet Ceres' mysterious bright spots has taken an intriguing new twist. The famous bright spots at the bottom of Ceres' Occator crater appear to be sublimating material into space, creating a localized atmosphere within the walls of the 57-mile-wide (92 kilometers) hole in the ground, new observations by NASA's Dawn spacecraft suggest. http://www.space.com/30054-dwarf-planet-ceres-bright-spots-atmosphere.html |
Bob DeWoody Send message Joined: 9 May 10 Posts: 3387 Credit: 4,182,900 RAC: 10 |
Is someone terraforming Ceres? ;) Bob DeWoody My motto: Never do today what you can put off until tomorrow as it may not be required. This no longer applies in light of current events. |
Jim Martin Send message Joined: 21 Jun 03 Posts: 2473 Credit: 646,848 RAC: 0 |
I vote for ice, nothing more (sorry, folks). |
betreger Send message Joined: 29 Jun 99 Posts: 11358 Credit: 29,581,041 RAC: 66 |
I vote for ice, nothing more (sorry, folks). What kind of ice? |
Bob DeWoody Send message Joined: 9 May 10 Posts: 3387 Credit: 4,182,900 RAC: 10 |
Maybe, if it is water ice, Ceres could support a mining colony or even a vacation destination. But it's even further away than Mars so it would be a long trip. Bob DeWoody My motto: Never do today what you can put off until tomorrow as it may not be required. This no longer applies in light of current events. |
KLiK Send message Joined: 31 Mar 14 Posts: 1304 Credit: 22,994,597 RAC: 60 |
I vote for ice, nothing more (sorry, folks). the kind that SUBLIMATES to Vacuum.. ;) non-profit org. Play4Life in Zagreb, Croatia, EU |
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