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Message 1672656 - Posted: 1 May 2015, 17:54:54 UTC - in response to Message 1672575.  


Now then lets turn to you shall we? Brand new poster, only joined April 5th 2015, no country, no team, computers hidden, yet you seem to know quite a bit about my background and previous posts. So who are you really? An alter alias of someone, your style of writing is somewhat familiar. The clues are that you could well be UK based and of Uni student age, or the parent of one. You come across as female as well. So are we Fessing up or not?

You beat me to it :-)
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Message 1672702 - Posted: 1 May 2015, 18:59:47 UTC

Watch out Britain...
Graham W Phillips @GrahamWP_UK · 4 tim för 4 timmar sedan
A poll card - I'll be using mine next Thursday in our General Election, because I care about the future of the UK.

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Message 1672716 - Posted: 1 May 2015, 19:33:18 UTC
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The press have spoken

The Sun - Conservatives

Scottish Sun - SNP

Mirror - Labour

Express - owner Richard Desmond has given £1m to UKIP

Financial Times - has called for tactical voting to produce another coalition between the Conservatives and Lib Dems

The Guardian - Labour

Papers who have not declared

Daily Mail - backed the Conservatives in 2010 - as did the Mail on Sunday

Telegraph - both daily and Sunday editions backed the Conservatives in 2010

Observer - backed the Liberal Democrats in 2010

The Times - backed the Conservatives in 2010

Independent on Sunday - said it is not advising readers how to vote in 2015

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Message 1672720 - Posted: 1 May 2015, 19:39:21 UTC - in response to Message 1672716.  

Well, the good thing about that is that'll we'll know in 7 days what way the wind blows for the next 5 years...

...hopefully, it'll not be an ill wind.
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Message 1672743 - Posted: 1 May 2015, 20:32:13 UTC

Quite agreed, hopefully it will not be an ill wind. But if the result is a very tottery minority government, then the Opposition parties can call for a vote of no confidence in the government, which could mean another general election in the Autumn. In which case it may not last for 5 years.

But the politicians know full well that would not be a good thing to happen for them or the country, so deals will likely be done, and are probably being pro actively done in secret now to try to avoid that eventuality.

We are living in the times of probably one of the most interesting general elections for decades. Quite exciting really, but also very important as well. If Britain were to come out of Europe it will have far reaching consequences. Renewing Trident or not will be just as important. And yet we have some people urging the public not to vote.
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Message 1672749 - Posted: 1 May 2015, 20:41:26 UTC - in response to Message 1672743.  

And yet we have some people urging the public not to vote.

Are you meaning Russel Brand?
He's weird. Saying that voting is meaningless is....
What ever means have peoples to speak out?
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Message 1672795 - Posted: 1 May 2015, 22:02:56 UTC - in response to Message 1672090.  

I personally believe that we will do the best that we can for our country. What else can I say?

food bank Britain

If you are looking for a "reason" to vote Lib Dem, I have given you the best info that I can.

Here? http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=77001&postid=1668334
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From the article:
Labour has promised to defend the ban, the Conservatives say they will offer parliament a free vote on repealing it, while the Liberal Democrats say hunting is not a priority, but would allow their MPs a free vote if the issue arises.


and here? http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=76606&postid=1643699: From the article:

The 2010 Conservative manifesto said the Hunting Act was "unworkable" and promised a free vote by MPs on its repeal.

The party says it remains committed to this if it wins a parliamentary majority in May.

Curiouser and curiouser. So that you can pat yourself on the back again,
My honest view is to either vote Conservative or Lib Dem,

you're actively endorsing the possibility of a return to fox hunting. Wow.

I have spoken to a lot of Uni students,

Did you speak to them in the same disrespectful way you speak to them on these boards? For a project that has an appeal to all ages and is attracting a new and younger set of users as a result of the world visualisation map on facebook, you're hardly a welcoming ambassador. Your dismissal of whole nations, even continents, whilst waving your colonial empire flag is not befitting to an international science project either, surely?

I live in a Uni town, that were initially quite hostile towards the Lib Dems because of this. But when it was explained to them why it happened they have all said OK, we can understand a lot more now, we never knew that before, we never got told. And in fact it was only publicised for the first time last autumn.

Four years to craft an excuse for betraying a generation? Wow - must have been hard.

Up to you guys as to what you vote, but I would urge not to vote Labour, I'd rather anything than them!!

So you'd endorse the TUSC then? They pledge to scrap zero hour contracts and curb exhorbitant rents.

Cameron has 5 years of experience under his belt. He IS a Prime Minister, He LOOKS a prime Minister, and ACTS like a Prime Minister.

...like a pig who has spent a lot of time at the trough throughout.

I want to see him back in No.10, but under control, and only the Lib Dems can do that. It is vitally important that we get as many Lib Dem seats as possible on the 7th, only then can we keep this country on the straight and narrow for the next 5 years.

Straight and narrow? Britain's richest Tory MP, property tycoon Richard Benyon, receives at least £625,000 a year in housing benefit from having struggling tenants and more than £2million in EU subsidies for his farms.

Tory peer Lord Cavendish, received £106,938 in housing benefit last year from his tenants going through hard times.
Tory donor Sir Richard Sutton received £67,521 in from West Berkshire Council. Even after they die, they keep raking it in. The estate of one of Britain’s richest men, the billionaire Earl of Cadogan, a Tory donor, received £116,400 in benefit from Kensington and Chelsea Council last year.

UKIP’s housing spokesman Andrew Charalambous received £745,351 in housing benefit from his tenants. That's just a few examples. The legalised corruption in British politics runs deep throughout all parties.

When the Conservatives introduced housing benefit under Margaret Thatcher, it was never about helping struggling tenants. It was always about allowing their donors and MP's to rake in ever more money from higher rents. The last five years have been spent demonising those at the bottom. And that's just one of your "straight and narrow" ambitions, and is precisely why people like Russell Brand have garnered attention. It's wrong. The right to vote was hard won, but it's mainstream parties that have eroded the desire to vote and you keep on endorsing two out of three of those. Leaving almost everyone else in this thread to endorse UKIP, which is an utterly repellent party to many.

As to this: http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=76606&postid=1671497

I suggest you differentiate, because 2 out of three are sexist and actionable

Preach it sister!

@Chris,

You asked what people think about the university student that posts here? I assume you are talking about Мишель?
Well we think that he is a smart young man who clearly likes to think about the whys and hows of the world. I may not agree with him on everything, but I see someone who is trying to enlighten themselves and he is certainly a rational and welcome addition to these message boards. Is that what you wanted to know?
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Message 1672800 - Posted: 1 May 2015, 22:23:30 UTC - in response to Message 1672795.  

I personally believe that we will do the best that we can for our country. What else can I say?

food bank Britain

If you are looking for a "reason" to vote Lib Dem, I have given you the best info that I can.

Here? http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=77001&postid=1668334
This is one of the reason I joind the Hunt Sabs.
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From the article:
Labour has promised to defend the ban, the Conservatives say they will offer parliament a free vote on repealing it, while the Liberal Democrats say hunting is not a priority, but would allow their MPs a free vote if the issue arises.


and here? http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=76606&postid=1643699: From the article:

The 2010 Conservative manifesto said the Hunting Act was "unworkable" and promised a free vote by MPs on its repeal.

The party says it remains committed to this if it wins a parliamentary majority in May.

Curiouser and curiouser. So that you can pat yourself on the back again,
My honest view is to either vote Conservative or Lib Dem,

you're actively endorsing the possibility of a return to fox hunting. Wow.

I have spoken to a lot of Uni students,

Did you speak to them in the same disrespectful way you speak to them on these boards? For a project that has an appeal to all ages and is attracting a new and younger set of users as a result of the world visualisation map on facebook, you're hardly a welcoming ambassador. Your dismissal of whole nations, even continents, whilst waving your colonial empire flag is not befitting to an international science project either, surely?

I live in a Uni town, that were initially quite hostile towards the Lib Dems because of this. But when it was explained to them why it happened they have all said OK, we can understand a lot more now, we never knew that before, we never got told. And in fact it was only publicised for the first time last autumn.

Four years to craft an excuse for betraying a generation? Wow - must have been hard.

Up to you guys as to what you vote, but I would urge not to vote Labour, I'd rather anything than them!!

So you'd endorse the TUSC then? They pledge to scrap zero hour contracts and curb exhorbitant rents.

Cameron has 5 years of experience under his belt. He IS a Prime Minister, He LOOKS a prime Minister, and ACTS like a Prime Minister.

...like a pig who has spent a lot of time at the trough throughout.

I want to see him back in No.10, but under control, and only the Lib Dems can do that. It is vitally important that we get as many Lib Dem seats as possible on the 7th, only then can we keep this country on the straight and narrow for the next 5 years.

Straight and narrow? Britain's richest Tory MP, property tycoon Richard Benyon, receives at least £625,000 a year in housing benefit from having struggling tenants and more than £2million in EU subsidies for his farms.

Tory peer Lord Cavendish, received £106,938 in housing benefit last year from his tenants going through hard times.
Tory donor Sir Richard Sutton received £67,521 in from West Berkshire Council. Even after they die, they keep raking it in. The estate of one of Britain’s richest men, the billionaire Earl of Cadogan, a Tory donor, received £116,400 in benefit from Kensington and Chelsea Council last year.

UKIP’s housing spokesman Andrew Charalambous received £745,351 in housing benefit from his tenants. That's just a few examples. The legalised corruption in British politics runs deep throughout all parties.

When the Conservatives introduced housing benefit under Margaret Thatcher, it was never about helping struggling tenants. It was always about allowing their donors and MP's to rake in ever more money from higher rents. The last five years have been spent demonising those at the bottom. And that's just one of your "straight and narrow" ambitions, and is precisely why people like Russell Brand have garnered attention. It's wrong. The right to vote was hard won, but it's mainstream parties that have eroded the desire to vote and you keep on endorsing two out of three of those. Leaving almost everyone else in this thread to endorse UKIP, which is an utterly repellent party to many.

As to this: http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=76606&postid=1671497

I suggest you differentiate, because 2 out of three are sexist and actionable

Preach it sister!

@Chris,

You asked what people think about the university student that posts here? I assume you are talking about Мишель?
Well we think that he is a smart young man who clearly likes to think about the whys and hows of the world. I may not agree with him on everything, but I see someone who is trying to enlighten themselves and he is certainly a rational and welcome addition to these message boards. Is that what you wanted to know?


I support this post.

I also was about to complain about the use of the T-word used by Chris S, thank you tami for bringing this up.
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Message 1672942 - Posted: 2 May 2015, 7:25:24 UTC

@Hev & Tami, I have no wish to upset any females here, or indeed others, with profanities. I have therefore red x'd the offending post and asked that the word be amended, if not possible the post will be hidden, and I will re-post it.
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Message 1672949 - Posted: 2 May 2015, 7:57:17 UTC - in response to Message 1672795.  

You asked what people think about the university student that posts here? I assume you are talking about Мишель?
Well we think that he is a smart young man who clearly likes to think about the whys and hows of the world. I may not agree with him on everything, but I see someone who is trying to enlighten themselves and he is certainly a rational and welcome addition to these message boards. Is that what you wanted to know?

I believe it was Tami that wanted to know. When he first came to Politics I thought he was like a breath of fresh air, because he brought a wealth of knowledge about European politics to an area where quite frankly we were all floundering. But as time has gone on and he has been strongly challenged in other areas outside of that, e.g. USA politics, customs and practices, and his views upon terrorism where he is convinced its a fuss about nothing and hardly anyone gets killed.

Yes he writes well and expresses himself adequately, as one would expect from a 2nd level Masters student, and in his chosen area of expertise he knows his stuff, but he does get into intellectual scuffles at times. I have no in depth knowledge about that much, just a broad appreciation of how it all fits together and interacts.

If posting here was a popularity contest, I wouldn't even feature at the bottom of the list!! In a democracy all opinions on anything are valid, but also are up for criticism. Not many agree with my views on things, but I'm still entitled to have them and so is our Netherlands friend.
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Message 1673016 - Posted: 2 May 2015, 12:30:17 UTC

Unfortunately the post that I earlier referred to with a profanity cannot be amended, so at my request it has been hidden. I will post the amended version here.

Can't let this one go .....

"The reason I have never voted in my life is that I think it does not matter," Brand, who has encouraged people not to vote and advocated a political revolution through action, told the Labour leader.

"We all got excited by Tony Blair, we all got excited by Barack Obama and what happened."

Total twit, like a little boy who suddenly doesn't believe in the tooth fairy any more.

Russell brand is the most obnoxious little twerp on the face of this planet.

There were two following posts that agreed with my view but I'll leave it up to them whether to respond again. As I said, I have no wish to upset any females here, or indeed others, with profanities. I have therefore taken the appropriate action.
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Message 1673148 - Posted: 2 May 2015, 21:01:49 UTC

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Kite fliers: An imaginary club of solo members, those who don't yet
belong to a formal team so "fly their own kites" - as the saying goes.
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Message 1673283 - Posted: 3 May 2015, 5:44:18 UTC - in response to Message 1672575.  
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I'll get your nose out of the way first.

Brand new poster, only joined April 5th 2015, no country, no team, computers hidden, yet you seem to know quite a bit about my background and previous posts.

Did I break a rule? I've visited the science and politics boards infrequently since February. I glanced into the cafe once. It's meant for people who have made friends. I won't go there again. Mine are elsewhere. Work will take me to and fro this year. As to aligning myself first and foremost with a national flag, I was not raised that way. I have nothing to offer a team. If I need help, I know enough, from the boinc boards, to display my computers. They're nothing special. Every thread takes you to the first post. And I can read. So I did. And then I posted. Was that wrong?

So who are you really? An alter alias of someone, your style of writing is somewhat familiar. The clues are that you could well be UK based and of Uni student age, or the parent of one. You come across as female as well.

I come across as female? I'll let that one slip by. I don't know what image was conjured in your head, but my post of the 29th should have cleared any doubt. It didn't, so I'll help you. Yes. I am female. Any further information will be volunteered through my posts, not in response to any inquisition from you.

So are we Fessing up or not?

Who's this "we"? And to what? I joined seti four weeks ago. I did so to contribute to the project. This is my 6th post. You don't like any of them. It doesn't surprise me. I feel the same about yours. If I've helped cement your friendship with a poster you previously were at war with, good. I'm happy for you both. You're well-suited.

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Yes this is a worry, especially this as well Schools The problem is that there is a National Minimum Wage which is supported by law, but the National Living wage is a lot higher, especially in London. I think the Living wage should be made mandatory.

But do your party? Is it an election pledge? In which case, how soon will you abandon it? When you do, will you blame it on the Labour Party? Disabled people? Single mothers? Immigrants? Students?

Genuinely doing our best doesn't always mean that we get it right.

No party ever got it so genuinely wrong so fast. What do you do for an encore?

This is one of the reason I joined the Hunt Sabs.
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Yes, the Lib Dems are wishy washy about it, and I do my bit to change that, believe me. But I can get very very upset about animal welfare and I try very hard not to discuss it too much here, for obvious reasons.

Yes. It doesn't slot comfortably into your political aspirations is one very obvious one. I can see that. Hence my comment, now withdrawn.

that is the interpretation that you have chosen to put upon it. Come off it Tami, I'm not having that!

I'm glad to hear it. But it's just as well you joined. Means you will be prepared if you get very very upset about it soon.

I have spoken to a lot of Uni students,

You didn't answer my question here, so I'll rephrase.

If the students fortunate enough to have everything explained to them by you, somehow identified you as Chris S here, and read your posts to and about students, and told a friend, who posted it on facebook, or twitter, say, today - would that be good for your party on Thursday? Or not? I'm not exactly sure what your link with them is, but you give the impression you have some influence.

you're hardly a welcoming ambassador.

Well done! You have highlighted a problem that I have been on about for some time. That is, that these forums are open to the whole world to see, whether you are 8 or 88, without any need to login or gain any credit to do so. I think that is wrong. For grown up discourse and discussions I think the Politics forum should require login, password, and certain credit to view, let alone to post and participate.

So you propose:
- the project protects itself from your poor ambassadorship,
- and you from any fallout from that, in your political life,
So that:
- you can continue being a bad ambassador for seti,
- but only people who have joined and have credit will get to know about it.
Like a special prize for us. And they haven't done it? I wonder why?

I have the guts to say what I very well know many other people are thinking, but for many reasons can't or won't follow suit. I have already gone on record as advocating that this politics forum should be shut down, because it has no relevance to a scientific project. And in fact a recent poll proved that only a hand full of activists wanted it anyway. So thank you for backing my stance.

I am not backing that stance and you know it.

-1000

I will not respond to this here.

We all know how India treats women as chattels to be bought, sold, abused etc, I will make no apology to you or anyone else for denigrating India.

I never asked you to. Your party might though.

Four years to craft an excuse for betraying a generation? Wow - must have been hard.

Oh do behave! You were given the simple reason not an exuse cobbled together over time. The fact that you don't understand or like the actual reason is not my problem. The students that I spoke to were grateful that somebody had bothered to explain it all to them.

Best hope they don't have reason to doubt your sincerity then. Because no one will shaft them faster than a Liberal Democrat.

That is where the coalition went wrong, and that is why the Lib Dems have suffered because of it. They cocked up, pure and simple.

2010 was my first vote in a general election. Four years later,

after completing my degree,
and working two jobs throughout,

you're peddling the claim to this year's students, that your u-turn was because my generation, the students who voted for you, were falling out of state schools illiterate and unemployable.

My generation salutes you - with one finger.

The fact that you don't understand or like the actual reason is not my problem.

Your "actual "reason"" salutes you - with one finger.

I will never vote for your party again. It's that pure and simple.

Up to you guys as to what you vote, but I would urge not to vote Labour, I'd rather anything than them!!

So you'd endorse the TUSC then?

Ah, Bob Crows lot :-)) Do me a favour!
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So you're endorsing Labour over them?

Your ability to contradict yourself is only surpassed by your talent for exposing your own double standards.

If you think life would be better in another country then you are free to move there.

Pathetic.

I suggest you differentiate

Then I suggest that you take your action then. Red X or report any of my posts that you like, the email is seti_moderators@ssl.berkeley.edu If you want to take it further then contact Fred, the Moderators Team Leader, send a PM to 8838182 (SETI Forums). If you really really want to make waves then contact the Berkeley Space Science Labs at 7 Gauss Way, Berkeley, CA 94720.

This response was very disappointing. You were under the impression I was "of Uni student age" at the time, so it was true to form. Your later response to others was better. Thank you.

In the meantime, if you want to play with the big boys, then you must expect to get your ankles kicked at times.


When they turn up, I'll be sure to take your advice.

@Sirius B - I will have a response for you later,
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Message 1673336 - Posted: 3 May 2015, 12:51:52 UTC - in response to Message 1673148.  
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I'll get your nose out of the way first.

Excuse me? How about being a bit more polite? Not a very auspicious start is it?

Did I break a rule?

None that I know of.

I've visited the science and politics boards infrequently since February. I glanced into the cafe once. It's meant for people who have made friends. I won't go there again. Mine are elsewhere.

Clearly.

Work will take me to and fro this year. As to aligning myself first and foremost with a national flag, I was not raised that way.

Interesting.

I have nothing to offer a team. If I need help, I know enough, from the boinc boards, to display my computers. They're nothing special. Every thread takes you to the first post. And I can read. So I did. And then I posted. Was that wrong?

Being self sufficient is not wrong.

I come across as female? I'll let that one slip by. I don't know what image was conjured in your head, but my post of the 29th should have cleared any doubt. It didn't, so I'll help you. Yes. I am female. Any further information will be volunteered through my posts, not in response to any inquisition from you.

I was correct then. No further comment necessary.

Who's this "we"? And to what? I joined seti four weeks ago. I did so to contribute to the project. This is my 6th post. You don't like any of them. It doesn't surprise me.

I have never said that, you are putting words in my mouth.

I feel the same about yours. If I've helped cement your friendship with a poster you previously were at war with, good. I'm happy for you both. You're well-suited.

Excuse me, for a apparently brand new poster around here, what would you know about any previous supposedly "war" between posters"? Freudian slip there?

But do your party? Is it an election pledge? In which case, how soon will you abandon it? When you do, will you blame it on the Labour Party? Disabled people? Single mothers? Immigrants? Students?

That is a very interesting comment referring to blaming single mothers. Now where have I heard that before?

Genuinely doing our best doesn't always mean that we get it right.

No party ever got it so genuinely wrong so fast. What do you do for an encore?

Very childish response.

I'm glad to hear it. But it's just as well you joined. Means you will be prepared if you get very very upset about it soon.

Meaning?

You didn't answer my question here, so I'll rephrase.

If the students fortunate enough to have everything explained to them by you, somehow identified you as Chris S here, and read your posts to and about students, and told a friend, who posted it on facebook, or twitter, say, today - would that be good for your party on Thursday? Or not?

Ok. I will take your statement at face value. I have friends that frequent Twitter and Facebook, They have been asked to investigate your allegations, as have others. if I find out that you have been behind any plot to assassinate my name, the police will be involved.

I'm not exactly sure what your link with them is, but you give the impression you have some influence.

Nope none at all. I spoke to many at a recent Freshers Fair and also at one a year ago. I have no specific influence other than that.

you're hardly a welcoming ambassador.

There is only one person here that has earned the Officially sanctioned Title of Seti Ambassador. It is certainly not me.

So you propose:
- the project protects itself from your poor ambassadorship,
- and you from any fallout from that, in your political life,
So that:
- you can continue being a bad ambassador for seti,
- but only people who have joined and have credit will get to know about it.
Like a special prize for us. And they haven't done it? I wonder why?

I will take that as an intended personal attack upon me, and consequently ignore it.

We all know how India treats women as chattels to be bought, sold, abused etc, I will make no apology to you or anyone else for denigrating India.

I never asked you to. Your party might though.

Oh might they? You are close to the high command of that party are you?

The students that I spoke to were grateful that somebody had bothered to explain it all to them.

Best hope they don't have reason to doubt your sincerity then. Because no one will shaft them faster than a Liberal Democrat.

Oooh we really don't like one political party do we.

2010 was my first vote in a general election. Four years later, after completing my degree, and working two jobs throughout,

Congratulations on completing your degree, and being able to fund yourself throughout it. What subject was the degree in?

you're peddling the claim to this year's students, that your u-turn was because my generation, the students who voted for you, were falling out of state schools illiterate and unemployable.

A number of your generation were yes, that was what it was all about. However if you are not willing to believe me then contact Vince cable who made the decision.

My generation salutes you - with one finger.

Oh very grown up for a degree educated person.

Your "actual "reason"" salutes you - with one finger.

As above.

I will never vote for your party again. It's that pure and simple.

Fine I have no problem with that, why would I have? Unlike you I am not trying to pick a fight.

So you'd endorse the TUSC then?

Ah, Bob Crows lot :-)) Do me a favour!.

So you're endorsing Labour over them?

You do have a propensity to put words in other peoples mouths.

Your ability to contradict yourself is only surpassed by your talent for exposing your own double standards.

Thank you for your opinion, I shall cherish it.

This response was very disappointing. You were under the impression I was "of Uni student age" at the time, so it was true to form. Your later response to others was better. Thank you.

Please make your mind up one way or the other.

In the meantime, if you want to play with the big boys, then you must expect to get your ankles kicked at times.

When they turn up, I'll be sure to take your advice.

You rather do have a bit of an inflated opinion of yourself don't you!

@Sirius B - I will have a response for you later,

Well we will be agog to see what that will consist of won't we. Henry Root, eat your heart out.
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Message 1673428 - Posted: 3 May 2015, 16:20:17 UTC - in response to Message 1673283.  

@Sirius B - I will have a response for you later,

Okay.

Our local elections: - Bella Saltmarsh (Liberal Party) as she is constantly out & about & doing the best she can for our local community (& that is a hell of a lot more than all the others combined).

General Election - I don't like wasting my vote but: -

Stewart Jackson (Conservative) Enjoys his trappings & has not done anywhere near enough for his city.

Chris Ash {Liberal) Has represented this Ward since 2000, yet in the 6 years I've lived in this ward, never seen him.

Lisa Forbes (Labour) Until today, never heard of her, yet she's lived here for 25 years?

Mary Herdman (UKIP) Until last week, never heard of her either. Lived in Thorney the past 18 years? Find that surprising as Thorney is a small but pleasant village. Have done countless deliveries there over the past 30 years, so the odds are that I should have bumped into her either on a home or retail delivery as she has her own property business.

Darren Fower {Lib-Dems) Professes to know all the areas of this city & for someone wanting to become this city's MP, only canvasses his local community (which btw is a "posh" area). It's not that big a city so could easily show his face other than his own local area.

So the question here for me is: -

Do I vote for the person or party?

If party, which one & why?
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Message 1673450 - Posted: 3 May 2015, 17:37:23 UTC - in response to Message 1673428.  

Locally the obvious choice is Bella Saltmarsh, she is also the Deputy Mayor.

Nationally well ..... At the present moment the bookies odds for your Constituency are these

4/9 Conservatives
13/8 Labour
25/1 UKIP
150/1 Liberal Democrats

So Stewart Jackson who had a 4861 majority in 2010, looks the likely winner, although he has a chequered history Jackson. Your single vote doesn't look to be making much difference as it is not a marginal or a strongly contested seat. The candidate line-up and results in 2010 was

Stewart Jackson Conservative 40%
Ed Murphy Labour 29%
Nick Sandford Liberal Democrat 19%
Frances Fox UK Independence Party 6%
Rob King English Democrats 2%
Fiona Radic Green 523 1%
John Swallow Independent 1%
Turnout 64%

Only Jackson is a known candidate with a background, the others are new people. Do they have any Councillors record to go by? A safe vote would be to return Jackson but to kick his arse and get him to work for it for the next 5 years. A tactical vote would be to vote Lib Dem, to keep Labour out, and maybe get them second place. Sorry, I think UKIP is a wasted vote. I can't give any advice as to the individual people as I don't live locally

There is now 4/1 odds of the current coalition continuing now that Milliband has firmly ruled out any deal with the SNP. In which case give the Lib Dems a stronger hand in coalition negotiations. The better they do in constituencies gives Clegg a stronger hand to force Cameron to be constrained. UKIP have highlighted the problems of the EU and Immigration. Any government after the 7th has no choice now but to take notice. UKIP have done their bit.

No doubt that won't help,it is the best I can do :-)
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Message 1673456 - Posted: 3 May 2015, 18:01:34 UTC - in response to Message 1673450.  

Locally the obvious choice is Bella Saltmarsh, she is also the Deputy Mayor.

Nationally well ..... At the present moment the bookies odds for your Constituency are these

4/9 Conservatives
13/8 Labour
25/1 UKIP
150/1 Liberal Democrats

I had an idea that Fower would be bottom of the list, but not by that much. I like a bet now & again, but no way betting on a dead horse :-)

As for local elections, I'm voting for Bella.
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Message 1673461 - Posted: 3 May 2015, 18:14:05 UTC

I don't know if this has been posted already, but you can sign up for a vote swap to make sure the Tories don't get in again:

http://voteswap.org/
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Message 1673464 - Posted: 3 May 2015, 18:30:19 UTC
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What guarantee has anyone got that their verbal or written pledge will actually be carried out in real life in the privacy of the ballot cubical. Nothing whatsoever. This site is an irrelevance. It has no relation at all with MP's doing Pairing in the House of Commons.

This is simply Es99 encouraging everyone not to vote Conservative.

But the site does have a point

But our unfair first-past-the-post electoral system

Which is exactly why we had the referendum on AV in 2011. But it failed simply because the two main parties knew full well that in many cases the Lib Dems came a close second in many places. It was likely that if it went through, both main parties would lose many seats, so they blocked it.
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Message 1673468 - Posted: 3 May 2015, 18:38:15 UTC - in response to Message 1673464.  

What guarantee has anyone got that their verbal or written pledge will actually be carried out in real life in the ballot cubical. Nothing whatsoever. This site is an irrelevance. It has no relation at all with MP's doing Pairing in the House of Commons.

This is simply Es99 encouraging everyone not to vote Conservative.

I think it is an example of grass roots action and people not wanting to make the mistake they did last time when they tactically voted libdem to keep the tories out and were betrayed.

I sincerely hope the libdems are consigned to the dustbin of history for what they did.
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