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Message 1627164 - Posted: 13 Jan 2015, 14:21:39 UTC - in response to Message 1627143.  

Just like to understand really why I managed to get so many unvalidated and Validation inconclusive units so it does not happen again, I have only recently installed the 970 in this machine and it had a R9 290 in before, the drivers were fully uninstalled though but thats all I can think of as the issue as it seemed to work fine in the last machine which was media_box.


BTW the results on that page are for the last month right?
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Message 1627187 - Posted: 13 Jan 2015, 15:04:33 UTC - in response to Message 1627164.  

Just done some milky way at home units and getting validation inconclusive on all

http://milkyway.cs.rpi.edu/milkyway/results.php?hostid=596585&offset=0&show_names=0&state=3&appid=

So thats seti / Einstein and mikly way I all having issues, card works fine for all other tasks though?

I am at a loss now
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Message 1631626 - Posted: 23 Jan 2015, 13:26:59 UTC

As a matter of interest if it's a driver problem then there is a new version out, 347.25.
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Message 1631652 - Posted: 23 Jan 2015, 14:42:47 UTC - in response to Message 1631626.  

Ryan, how big is your PSU on that machine?
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Message 1631664 - Posted: 23 Jan 2015, 15:16:26 UTC - in response to Message 1627187.  

Just done some milky way at home units and getting validation inconclusive on all

http://milkyway.cs.rpi.edu/milkyway/results.php?hostid=596585

Well, the host is not showing any completed tasks now - valid, invalid, or inconclusive.

MilkyWay is a strange project: it appears to me that very few of the posters on their message boards, and even fewer of the project scientists, understand how BOINC works and how to control it. (That's an absurd over-generalisation, of course, and my apologies to anyone caught on the wrong side of it).

Specifically, most of the programming seems to be left to the long list of Undergraduate Research Assistants named on their home page: the only person who manages the BOINC Server (with any skill) is Professor Desell himself, and he is clearly too busy to devote much time to it.

My belief is that at some point in the dim and distant past, somebody set an obscure configuration policy on their server, and subsequently forgot all about it:

Adaptive Replication

Tasks are sent out one at a time. If a host is 'trusted', the single returned result is accepted as valid and given credit. If the host is 'untrusted', a second or even third replication will be sent out after the first result is returned (unlike the process here, where all tasks are replicated, and both copies are sent out at nearly the same time). In the meantime the initial result will show as inconclusive.

Crucially for this discussion, a newly attached host (or a host with a brand-new video card) will initially be treated as untrusted, and all results returned to MilkyWay by a new host will initially show as inconclusive.

So, the initial quote by itself tells us nothing about whether the card worked at MilkyWay. I see that Ryan's machine has earned some credit there, so some tasks must have passed through it and been validated, but we don't know whether they were processed on the GTX 970. It would be worth Ryan's while to process a few more MilkyWay tasks, and report back on their final outcome (valid or invalid) after the extended replication/validation process has reached a final decision.
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Message 1631749 - Posted: 23 Jan 2015, 18:00:08 UTC

Travis is not even working at the RPI anymore.

He moved to the University of North Dakota.

http://tdesell.cs.und.edu/

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