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Message 1627273 - Posted: 14 Jan 2015, 3:29:52 UTC

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Message 1627277 - Posted: 14 Jan 2015, 3:38:54 UTC - in response to Message 1627265.  

I didn't get any today, maybe the ptoblem has been sorted out.

I'm sure it'll take several months to clear them all out, if nothing is done to block the resends. There will certainly be some tasks that get sent to hosts that go dormant and they'll have to wait to time out before being sent on. The good news is that these have fairly short deadlines, about 3 weeks, unlike the 2 months that "normal" MB tasks are given. However, since it generally takes 10 tasks to max out each of these WUs, I'm sure there will be some that end up with more than one "timed out" task, which will stretch out their demise.
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Message 1627278 - Posted: 14 Jan 2015, 3:39:48 UTC

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Message 1627290 - Posted: 14 Jan 2015, 4:23:56 UTC - in response to Message 1627278.  
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203 so far and another 127 sitting in the inconclusive spread out over 6 machines.

I've checked just to make sure it wasn't my machines and they almost all resends from other peoples invalids.

Just going to have to wait them out
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Message 1627299 - Posted: 14 Jan 2015, 4:56:41 UTC - in response to Message 1627277.  

I didn't get any today, maybe the ptoblem has been sorted out.

I'm sure it'll take several months to clear them all out, if nothing is done to block the resends. There will certainly be some tasks that get sent to hosts that go dormant and they'll have to wait to time out before being sent on. The good news is that these have fairly short deadlines, about 3 weeks, unlike the 2 months that "normal" MB tasks are given. However, since it generally takes 10 tasks to max out each of these WUs, I'm sure there will be some that end up with more than one "timed out" task, which will stretch out their demise.

So far your hypothesis seems to be correct the ones i have goten were resends with lots previous invalids
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Message 1627305 - Posted: 14 Jan 2015, 5:56:48 UTC - in response to Message 1627299.  

So far your hypothesis seems to be correct the ones i have goten were resends with lots previous invalids

I think the original distribution of _0 and _1 tasks was completed sometime Friday night (Berkeley time). I got my last one of those about 06:00 UTC Saturday. From there on it's been nothing but resends, _2 thru _9 tasks. As the days go by, we should be seeing more and more of the higher numbers, with a dwindling number of tasks overall as more WUs hit their 10 task maximums (of which I've seen a half dozen in my task list, so far).

Anyway, I keep aborting 'em when I see 'em. Even though that does knock down the "max tasks per day" figure, it doesn't do enough damage to prevent me from keeping my queues full with tasks that I can process productively.
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Message 1627550 - Posted: 14 Jan 2015, 17:39:24 UTC

I just aborted 10 more on my i7.

More concerning to me is http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/workunit.php?wuid=1669848312. It validated without an AC count. I just posted in the invalid host thread about one of the hosts that got credit for it.
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Message 1627555 - Posted: 14 Jan 2015, 17:58:10 UTC - in response to Message 1627550.  
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I just aborted 10 more on my i7.

More concerning to me is http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/workunit.php?wuid=1669848312. It validated without an AC count. I just posted in the invalid host thread about one of the hosts that got credit for it.

Yes, that one should be concerning because the tasks labeled as Invalid found Zero Pulses whereas the 2 tasks that validated found 31 Pulses. Something is very wrong with that.

All of them ran as; Legacy setiathome_enhanced V6 mode.
The reason the two Overflows Validated is that Overflows are exempt from AC checking.

Oh wait, both the tasks that Validated were nVidia 9 series cards running CUDA 32...which is known to Produce Invalid results.
I suspect we are witnessing two otherwise Invalid tasks Validating against each other. I wonder how many other times that has happened when No One was watching...
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Message 1627561 - Posted: 14 Jan 2015, 18:12:38 UTC - in response to Message 1627305.  

Anyway, I keep aborting 'em when I see 'em. Even though that does knock down the "max tasks per day" figure, it doesn't do enough damage to prevent me from keeping my queues full with tasks that I can process productively.

Isn't getting these things up to their 10 invalids so they will be purged from the system productive?
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Message 1627569 - Posted: 14 Jan 2015, 18:34:01 UTC - in response to Message 1627561.  

Anyway, I keep aborting 'em when I see 'em. Even though that does knock down the "max tasks per day" figure, it doesn't do enough damage to prevent me from keeping my queues full with tasks that I can process productively.

Isn't getting these things up to their 10 invalids so they will be purged from the system productive?

The threshold is not 10 Invalid tasks but rather 10 total tasks, so an aborted task counts the same as an invalid, and actually helps the count get to 10 more quickly.
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Message 1627581 - Posted: 14 Jan 2015, 18:48:44 UTC - in response to Message 1627569.  

Anyway, I keep aborting 'em when I see 'em. Even though that does knock down the "max tasks per day" figure, it doesn't do enough damage to prevent me from keeping my queues full with tasks that I can process productively.

Isn't getting these things up to their 10 invalids so they will be purged from the system productive?

The threshold is not 10 Invalid tasks but rather 10 total tasks, so an aborted task counts the same as an invalid, and actually helps the count get to 10 more quickly.

I think Jeff was referring to his computer's (or his account's) "max tasks per day," not that of any particular WU.
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Message 1627993 - Posted: 15 Jan 2015, 15:52:20 UTC - in response to Message 1627990.  

A list which starts with

19ap11ad.18067.xxxxx.140733193388039.12.xxx

and ends with

19ap11ad.19368.xxxxx.140733193388035.12.xxx

- as previously reported.
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Message 1628092 - Posted: 15 Jan 2015, 19:29:56 UTC

I just dumped 2 more, for a total of 14 on my i7 (1 on my other box).

Two or three of my aborts are now out to their _9 host, so they should die soon. Several others are out to their _8.
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Message 1628093 - Posted: 15 Jan 2015, 19:31:19 UTC

I'm seeing the same thing and it's not just the 19ap11 work units although that does account for the majority. I've seen 21mr11, 28dc12, 28fe13 and others with the same problem. They were all downloaded between 7-Jan-15 and 14-Jan-15.
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Message 1628100 - Posted: 15 Jan 2015, 19:39:49 UTC - in response to Message 1628093.  

I'm seeing the same thing and it's not just the 19ap11 work units although that does account for the majority. I've seen 21mr11, 28dc12, 28fe13 and others with the same problem. They were all downloaded between 7-Jan-15 and 14-Jan-15.

Could you link a few examples from those other tapes, please? I've been watching pretty closely, and I haven't seen any at all with this specific problem except from the 7 channels from 19ap11ad tape.
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Message 1628107 - Posted: 15 Jan 2015, 19:49:12 UTC - in response to Message 1628100.  
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Yeah I've seen some of those others as well.

Can't point them out to you as I'm at 250 total invalid so far with another 140 in the inconclusive pile and it's too much of a pain to go thru each and everyone to find those others.

Sorry. If one pops up closer to the most recent I'll link it.
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Message 1628119 - Posted: 15 Jan 2015, 20:28:04 UTC - in response to Message 1628107.  

Yeah I've seen some of those others as well.

Can't point them out to you as I'm at 250 total invalid so far with another 140 in the inconclusive pile and it's too much of a pain to go thru each and everyone to find those others.

Sorry. If one pops up closer to the most recent I'll link it.

Filter by invalid/inconclusive.

Click 'Show names' in the Task details column header (which applies an alphanumeric sort as well)

Page through until you find a batch that isn't 19ap11ad...
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Message 1628130 - Posted: 15 Jan 2015, 21:03:01 UTC - in response to Message 1628124.  

Those all say "Detected setiathome_enhanced_v7 task. Autocorrelations enabled"

In what way do they match the subject of this thread, which is about tasks saying "Legacy setiathome_enhanced V6 mode" instead?
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