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Julie Send message Joined: 28 Oct 09 Posts: 34041 Credit: 18,883,157 RAC: 18 |
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Julie Send message Joined: 28 Oct 09 Posts: 34041 Credit: 18,883,157 RAC: 18 |
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tullio Send message Joined: 9 Apr 04 Posts: 8797 Credit: 2,930,782 RAC: 1 |
Thanks God I am an atheist (Nikita Kruscev) Tullio |
Julie Send message Joined: 28 Oct 09 Posts: 34041 Credit: 18,883,157 RAC: 18 |
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Admiral Gloval Send message Joined: 31 Mar 13 Posts: 20103 Credit: 5,308,449 RAC: 0 |
God is omnipotent, omniscient, and omnibenevolent-it says so right here on the label. If you have a mind capable of believing all three of these divine attributes simultaneously, I have a wonderful bargain for you. No checks, please. Cash and in small bills. |
Mark Stevenson Send message Joined: 8 Sep 11 Posts: 1736 Credit: 174,899,165 RAC: 91 |
An atheist is someone who doesn't believe in any god or gods, an Agnostic is someone who doesn't claim to know for sure that any gods exist or not. A subtle difference. I think I'm a cross between the two. I'm damn sure that no Gods exist, but if I get incontrovertible proof that they do, then so be it. Yep 75% Atheist, 25% Agnostic. I thort God said to Moses "go forth and multiply" |
celttooth Send message Joined: 21 Nov 99 Posts: 26503 Credit: 28,583,098 RAC: 0 |
I like number ten! :):) |
Mike Send message Joined: 17 Feb 01 Posts: 34249 Credit: 79,922,639 RAC: 80 |
Everybody can believe what he wants so long it doesn`t hurt another person or life form. With each crime and every kindness we birth our future. |
OzzFan Send message Joined: 9 Apr 02 Posts: 15691 Credit: 84,761,841 RAC: 28 |
The only problem I have with the list is number 5. If there is to be some sort of "Non-commandments", I don't think it should mention God at all, as to do so would somehow valid and acknowledge a "black sheep" type argument. That's putting aside the fact that even having 10 Non-Commandments will bring the religious nuts in claiming, "See! I told you Atheism is a religion! They have their own Commandments now too. They're trying to take over!" Atheism is a religion like bald is a hair color. |
OzzFan Send message Joined: 9 Apr 02 Posts: 15691 Credit: 84,761,841 RAC: 28 |
I do believe in God tho, I'm just not subscribed to any religion... I used to be like you for many years. I disliked organized religion, but I was certain there had to be a god of some sort. It was very comforting to think that in this crazy Universe, someone was in control and had a plan, and that when I die, I'd be able to return to my loved ones. But the more I kept trying to define this God, mainly because people kept asking me questions about my beliefs, the more I realized that I was essentially creating my own fantasy based upon no evidence and no logic. It was all pure "feeling" and that wasn't enough. Eventually I learned to simply let go of that belief and accept that once we die, that's it. It made living life that much more important to me instead of only focusing on the end game (death and afterlife). Just my opinions though. You could say my journey is somewhat similar to Julia Sweeney's Letting Go of God. The Universe doesn't need belief or faith to exist, nor a Creator to make people good. |
Julie Send message Joined: 28 Oct 09 Posts: 34041 Credit: 18,883,157 RAC: 18 |
I do believe in God tho, I'm just not subscribed to any religion... The spiritual world really scares me that's why I'm always busy with empirical science if I'm not distracted by someone with other ideas. To be rational would be my motto, rational and realistic. I'm a bit like you Ozzfan, except I'm too easily influenced or I'm too 'open'. Someone once told me I was an emotional vacuumcleaner:)) rOZZ Music Pictures |
Admiral Gloval Send message Joined: 31 Mar 13 Posts: 20103 Credit: 5,308,449 RAC: 0 |
The spiritual world really scares me that's why I'm always busy with empirical science if I'm not distracted by someone with other ideas. To be rational would be my motto, rational and realistic. I'm a bit like you Ozzfan, except I'm too easily influenced or I'm too 'open'. Someone once told me I was an emotional vacuumcleaner:)) I just watched the last episode of "Saving Grace". The ending wasn't pretty. Let's just say she died with her eyes wide open and her boots on. The plot focuses on Grace Hanadarko, a heavy drinking and promiscuous Oklahoma City detective. In the series opener, Grace meets up with her "last-chance" angel, when after a night of drinking she runs down and kills a pedestrian with her Porsche. In desperation she calls out for God's help, and a scruffy, tobacco-spitting man who calls himself Earl appears. Unfolding his wings to reveal his divine origins, Earl tells her that she's headed for Hell, and asks if she's ready to turn her life over to God. When he finally disappears, the person she struck is also gone and it's as if the accident never happened. The only evidence left is a small amount of the victim's blood on her blouse, which she brings to her best friend, forensics expert Rhetta Rodriguez , to analyze. With Rhetta's help, Grace discovers that the victim in her accident is actually a man awaiting execution on death row, Leon Cooley. When she visits Cooley in prison, he reveals that he has also had encounters with Earl. |
David S Send message Joined: 4 Oct 99 Posts: 18352 Credit: 27,761,924 RAC: 12 |
Here are the "Ten Non-Commandments" chosen as the winners: Fine (and a good counterpoint to "I am the Lord thy God..."). 2. Strive to understand what is most likely to be true, not to believe what you wish to be true. These two kind of go together. 4. Every person has the right to control of their body. A tad specific to political issues in the US, but it also applies in other situations. 5. God is not necessary to be a good person or to live a full and meaningful life. Agree that this is not necessary. 6. Be mindful of the consequences of all your actions and recognize that you must take responsibility for them. Fine. 7. Treat others as you would want them to treat you, and can reasonably expect them to want to be treated. Think about their perspective. These also go together. 9. There is no one right way to live. Both good. So I shot down three of them. Sorry, but I would have left in "don't kill," "don't steal," and "don't bear false witness" (actually I would shorten that one to "don't lie"). I'll get into my belief system later. David Sitting on my butt while others boldly go, Waiting for a message from a small furry creature from Alpha Centauri. |
Lynn Send message Joined: 20 Nov 00 Posts: 14162 Credit: 79,603,650 RAC: 123 |
I'll go with #10 also. |
Mr. Kevvy Send message Joined: 15 May 99 Posts: 3776 Credit: 1,114,826,392 RAC: 3,319 |
An atheist is someone who doesn't believe in any god or gods, an Agnostic is someone who doesn't claim to know for sure that any gods exist or not. A subtle difference. I think I'm a cross between the two. I'm damn sure that no Gods exist, but if I get incontrovertible proof that they do, then so be it. Yep 75% Atheist, 25% Agnostic. Actually, you can be (and appear to be) 100% both. Atheist = lack of belief, and agnostic = lack of any claim of knowledge one way or another. "Don't murder", "don't steal" and "don't bear false witness" is taken into account: 7. Treat others as you would want them to treat you, and can reasonably expect them to want to be treated. Think about their perspective. It's not called the "Golden Rule" for nothing, you know. :^) Also I'm predicting this is gonna end up in Politics. |
Bob DeWoody Send message Joined: 9 May 10 Posts: 3387 Credit: 4,182,900 RAC: 10 |
An atheist is someone who doesn't believe in any god or gods, an Agnostic is someone who doesn't claim to know for sure that any gods exist or not. A subtle difference. I think I'm a cross between the two. I'm damn sure that no Gods exist, but if I get incontrovertible proof that they do, then so be it. Yep 75% Atheist, 25% Agnostic. +1,000 Me too! Bob DeWoody My motto: Never do today what you can put off until tomorrow as it may not be required. This no longer applies in light of current events. |
celttooth Send message Joined: 21 Nov 99 Posts: 26503 Credit: 28,583,098 RAC: 0 |
I say: "Blessed are the cheese makers!" :):) |
SciManStev Send message Joined: 20 Jun 99 Posts: 6651 Credit: 121,090,076 RAC: 0 |
Every baby is born an atheist From the book No Meek Messiah, by Michael Paulkovich Steve Warning, addicted to SETI crunching! Crunching as a member of GPU Users Group. GPUUG Website |
Julie Send message Joined: 28 Oct 09 Posts: 34041 Credit: 18,883,157 RAC: 18 |
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Lynn Send message Joined: 20 Nov 00 Posts: 14162 Credit: 79,603,650 RAC: 123 |
Every baby is born, and born neutral. It their parents and their environment that influences them. +200 |
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