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Gordon Lowe Send message Joined: 5 Nov 00 Posts: 12094 Credit: 6,317,865 RAC: 0 |
I'm trying to find my mother's best friend. We know she died more than ten years ago, but we don't know(remember) where she is buried. I've called the cemeteries where we think she would have been buried, but no luck. I've called the library, and they have given me websites(like Find a Grave.com) that are worthless - looked up my dad, and my mom's dad, and they couldn't even find them! Sorry for a sort of downer thread, but hopefully someone out here might be of some help. The mind is a weird and mysterious place |
Julie Send message Joined: 28 Oct 09 Posts: 34053 Credit: 18,883,157 RAC: 18 |
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Monday Send message Joined: 24 Sep 05 Posts: 9676 Credit: 20,067,888 RAC: 12 |
Find someone who went to the funeral and ask them. |
Carlos Send message Joined: 9 Jun 99 Posts: 29830 Credit: 57,275,487 RAC: 157 |
Search the local news paper's obituary- find out the funeral home. They will have a record or internment. |
Gordon Lowe Send message Joined: 5 Nov 00 Posts: 12094 Credit: 6,317,865 RAC: 0 |
I know the name and city, and I've called the local paper, which is a very good suggestion, but so far I've not been able to talk to someone helpful. I feel pretty silly. It seems like something that should be fairly easy to solve. The mind is a weird and mysterious place |
Julie Send message Joined: 28 Oct 09 Posts: 34053 Credit: 18,883,157 RAC: 18 |
I know the name and city, and I've called the local paper, which is a very good suggestion, but so far I've not been able to talk to someone helpful. I feel pretty silly. It seems like something that should be fairly easy to solve. Have you tried calling the civil registry of the town hall from that town? If you have the name, they will certainly know where the person is buried, even where he or she died and when. rOZZ Music Pictures |
Carlos Send message Joined: 9 Jun 99 Posts: 29830 Credit: 57,275,487 RAC: 157 |
I know the name and city, and I've called the local paper, which is a very good suggestion, but so far I've not been able to talk to someone helpful. I feel pretty silly. It seems like something that should be fairly easy to solve. We don't have civil registry offices here in the US. At least I have never heard of one. We have County Recorders. The recorder's office might have the information but in most states birth and death records are maintained by the States. Getting the information from the state can be difficult. Here is the proceedure for getting a copy in California. California Vital Records |
Jim Martin Send message Joined: 21 Jun 03 Posts: 2473 Credit: 646,848 RAC: 0 |
All that type of info. should be in Sacramento's City Hall (If California.). For me, it's in Providence -- records go back to 1636, believe it or not. |
David S Send message Joined: 4 Oct 99 Posts: 18352 Credit: 27,761,924 RAC: 12 |
All that type of info. should be in Sacramento's City Hall (If California.). I don't see why the city of Sacramento should have to keep those records for the whole state. It's a big enough city to have trouble keeping just its own records. A state as big as CA probably has a number of office buildings in its capital city and elsewhere around the state. Here in Illinois, death records are kept by counties, but I don't know if that includes the burial location. However, if copies of the death certificate were requested by a funeral home (as a service to the bereaved) the county might have a record of what home it was, and the home would then probably know the burial location. If you know the funeral home, try asking them without bothering any level of government. Come to think of it, the name of the funeral home would probably be in the newspaper obit (even if the burial site isn't). [edit] I guess Carlos already said that part. [/edit] (Both Cook and DuPage Counties charge $15 for the first copy of a death certificate and $5 for each additional copy ordered at the same time. That might be a statewide standard charge.) David Sitting on my butt while others boldly go, Waiting for a message from a small furry creature from Alpha Centauri. |
celttooth Send message Joined: 21 Nov 99 Posts: 26503 Credit: 28,583,098 RAC: 0 |
Good luck Sir. |
Carlos Send message Joined: 9 Jun 99 Posts: 29830 Credit: 57,275,487 RAC: 157 |
All that type of info. should be in Sacramento's City Hall (If California.). For births and deaths within the City of Sacramento, that would have been true some years ago. Until 1992 records were kept according to state laws. Most states had thier own systems. Many allowed Cities and Counties to keep the records. But in 1992 the Federal CENTERS FOR DISEASE CONTROL issued uniform regulations. All but 13 states adoped the regulations. As part of the regulations the State, not the city or the county became responsible for vital records. In California the cities and counties still collect the information but it's sent to Sacaramento (State offices not City) were it is maintained. In some cities and most county offices you can still get a copy. But the officail source is the State. |
Gary Charpentier Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 30647 Credit: 53,134,872 RAC: 32 |
In most places in the USA, the death certificate lists the cemetery where they are buried, called the Final Disposition, and should also list the funeral home that handled the burial. You can find dates and places of death in the Social Security Master Death Index, which a few genealogy sites have searchable online. Knowing the date of death can narrow your search if you are looking at newspaper obituaries. Many papers now index their obits online, but they may be behind a paywall. One monkey wrench is if you knew the person under a nick name, the records are by legal name. Good luck. It shouldn't be too hard, but it may take a while. |
David S Send message Joined: 4 Oct 99 Posts: 18352 Credit: 27,761,924 RAC: 12 |
In most places in the USA, the death certificate lists the cemetery where they are buried, called the Final Disposition, and should also list the funeral home that handled the burial. You can find dates and places of death in the Social Security Master Death Index, which a few genealogy sites have searchable online. Knowing the date of death can narrow your search if you are looking at newspaper obituaries. Many papers now index their obits online, but they may be behind a paywall. One monkey wrench is if you knew the person under a nick name, the records are by legal name. I know my parents' and grandmother's death certs don't say where they were buried, because they weren't. They were cremated. My aunt has my grandmother and I have both of my parents in my living room. But I think I was wrong earlier. My father's didn't come from Cook County, it came from the City of Evanston (location of the hospital). David Sitting on my butt while others boldly go, Waiting for a message from a small furry creature from Alpha Centauri. |
Julie Send message Joined: 28 Oct 09 Posts: 34053 Credit: 18,883,157 RAC: 18 |
In most places in the USA, the death certificate lists the cemetery where they are buried, called the Final Disposition, and should also list the funeral home that handled the burial. You can find dates and places of death in the Social Security Master Death Index, which a few genealogy sites have searchable online. Knowing the date of death can narrow your search if you are looking at newspaper obituaries. Many papers now index their obits online, but they may be behind a paywall. One monkey wrench is if you knew the person under a nick name, the records are by legal name. +1 rOZZ Music Pictures |
Lynn Send message Joined: 20 Nov 00 Posts: 14162 Credit: 79,603,650 RAC: 123 |
In most places in the USA, the death certificate lists the cemetery where they are buried, called the Final Disposition, and should also list the funeral home that handled the burial. You can find dates and places of death in the Social Security Master Death Index, which a few genealogy sites have searchable online. Knowing the date of death can narrow your search if you are looking at newspaper obituaries. Many papers now index their obits online, but they may be behind a paywall. One monkey wrench is if you knew the person under a nick name, the records are by legal name. +10 |
Lynn Send message Joined: 20 Nov 00 Posts: 14162 Credit: 79,603,650 RAC: 123 |
I don't know if this link will help Gordon. Public Obituary Records http://www.publicrecordsreviews.com/Public-Obituary-Records Good luck. |
Dena Wiltsie Send message Joined: 19 Apr 01 Posts: 1628 Credit: 24,230,968 RAC: 26 |
I have been tracing family trees and grave sites pop up al the time. I am on Ancestry.com but there are other web sites that can be used as well. If you don't want to join a web site like that, PM the name, sex, age location information to me and I will run a search for you. |
Donald L. Johnson Send message Joined: 5 Aug 02 Posts: 8240 Credit: 14,654,533 RAC: 20 |
I don't know if this link will help Gordon. Many newspapers post their Obituaries to Legacy.com You can access it through the participating newspapers' website. You can search by name, city/state, and timeframe. Obituaries over a year old are archived, and you may have to pay a small fee to retrieve them. If the Obit lists the cemetery, you can often access gravesite info from the cemetery website. Something to remember, not everyone is buried in a cemetery. Both my parents were cremated, and their ashes were mixed and spread in a planter around one of my mulberry trees. I'm going to be cremated and buries at sea off San Diego. Donald Infernal Optimist / Submariner, retired |
Gordon Lowe Send message Joined: 5 Nov 00 Posts: 12094 Credit: 6,317,865 RAC: 0 |
We're reasonably certain this person was indeed buried, and locally, as this is where she grew up, and lived all her life. She and her husband are also more than likely buried together. I checked a couple of the main cemeteries here, but they don't have her. The local paper's online obits don't list her, but that could be because it was more than ten years ago, and they don't list my dad either, and he died in 1982. Unfortunately, the customer service at our local paper is practically non-existent nowadays, so they were not helpful at all. That site that Lynn provided found who I'm looking for, but to get the actual report, it's $23, plus I'm not sure it would tell me where she's buried, or even if it tells her date of death, but if it told her DOD, that would certainly be something I could use. So, if it comes down to paying something, I'm ok with that. p.s. I haven't checked with the County Clerk. They primarily house real estate records, and car registration/marriage records, but I guess they might have death certificates, too. The mind is a weird and mysterious place |
Gordon Lowe Send message Joined: 5 Nov 00 Posts: 12094 Credit: 6,317,865 RAC: 0 |
I have found the cemetery where my mother's friend is buried, thanks to Dena's very nice help. :~) This thread can be closed. ~Gordon The mind is a weird and mysterious place |
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