Panic Mode On (94) Server Problems?

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JohnDK Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 28 May 00 Posts: 1222 Credit: 451,243,443 RAC: 1,127	Message 1625079 - Posted: 7 Jan 2015, 20:12:54 UTC - in response to Message 1625067. This may seem odd, but here goes: Mark Sattler e-mailed all at the lab and got a reply, I will paste his post from the BIONC boards. Some news from the kitties that should be relayed to Panic Mode in NC that might explain a few things for some folks. Matt has explained to me that the AP database is not fully healed, and automated processes are working in the background to complete repairs. It may be some weeks yet before this has been completed. So, that is the reason that the AP assimilators have been offline, and the AP waiting for assimilation queue has been growing. Since that work has to be stored temporarily until assimilation can commence, that storage space has filled up, and that is the primary reason that the AP splitters are working so slowly...nowhere to go with the work. They are going to increase the disk space for storing AP work, and that should allow the AP splitters to get back up to speed again, hopefully soon. If that's correct, we will just have to wait. As always, the worst is not knowing what's up, for me worse than the actual problem. ID: 1625079 ·

Julie Volunteer moderator Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 28 Oct 09 Posts: 34053 Credit: 18,883,157 RAC: 18	Message 1625134 - Posted: 7 Jan 2015, 21:49:51 UTC Panic Mode :'( But not on server problems... You guys are doing great in here! rOZZ Music Pictures ID: 1625134 ·

Lionel Send message Joined: 25 Mar 00 Posts: 680 Credit: 563,640,304 RAC: 597	Message 1625153 - Posted: 7 Jan 2015, 22:21:59 UTC - in response to Message 1624869. This truly sucks. sure does ... it appears to be going from bad to worse ... maybe it is time to go back to the drawing board along with a new management team ... ID: 1625153 ·

Jord Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 9 Jun 99 Posts: 15184 Credit: 4,362,181 RAC: 3	Message 1625168 - Posted: 7 Jan 2015, 22:39:34 UTC With enough of these guys around there's plenty for us small fish to be had. I was wondering why I had a lot of _2 and _3 work. That host there. Either it's the ultimate form of cherry picking, or he's doing something else unexplainable. ;-) ID: 1625168 ·

betreger Send message Joined: 29 Jun 99 Posts: 11361 Credit: 29,581,041 RAC: 66	Message 1625175 - Posted: 7 Jan 2015, 22:48:43 UTC - in response to Message 1625153. Lionel I find it ironic that the loudest whiners seem to those who have spent thousands on computers yet won't even spend $10.00 to buy a green star. You are getting much more than what you paid for. ID: 1625175 ·

Brent Norman Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 1 Dec 99 Posts: 2786 Credit: 685,657,289 RAC: 835	Message 1625178 - Posted: 7 Jan 2015, 23:00:51 UTC - in response to Message 1625168. With enough of these guys around there's plenty for us small fish to be had. I was wondering why I had a lot of _2 and _3 work. That host there. Either it's the ultimate form of cherry picking, or he's doing something else unexplainable. ;-) Definitely an abuser !!! ID: 1625178 ·

Julie Volunteer moderator Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 28 Oct 09 Posts: 34053 Credit: 18,883,157 RAC: 18	Message 1625179 - Posted: 7 Jan 2015, 23:08:15 UTC - in response to Message 1625153. This truly sucks. sure does ... it appears to be going from bad to worse ... maybe it is time to go back to the drawing board along with a new management team ... The Management team is doing A ok, no worries about that I presume. My Lunatic is getting better, after getting some dust off... rOZZ Music Pictures ID: 1625179 ·

Claggy Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 5 Jul 99 Posts: 4654 Credit: 47,537,079 RAC: 4	Message 1625190 - Posted: 7 Jan 2015, 23:26:32 UTC - in response to Message 1625178. Last modified: 7 Jan 2015, 23:52:08 UTC With enough of these guys around there's plenty for us small fish to be had. I was wondering why I had a lot of _2 and _3 work. That host there. Either it's the ultimate form of cherry picking, or he's doing something else unexplainable. ;-) Definitely an abuser !!! No, It's constantly getting tasks abandoned, that happens if an earlier scheduler contact gets through after a later one, ie out of sequence, It's eithier got a very poor ISP, or some sort of backup software that restores Boinc, But it restores a client_state.xml with an earlier <rpc_seqno>, The scheduler will mark all those tasks abandoned, If you were able to see the result from those abandoned tasks, you'll probably find that host is still crunching them. All the visible abandonments since the beginning of the year: 7 Jan 2015, 22:12:32 UTC Abandoned 7 Jan 2015, 20:08:23 UTC Abandoned 7 Jan 2015, 18:51:58 UTC Abandoned 7 Jan 2015, 17:27:18 UTC Abandoned 7 Jan 2015, 13:05:40 UTC Abandoned 7 Jan 2015, 9:59:06 UTC Abandoned 7 Jan 2015, 9:23:00 UTC Abandoned 7 Jan 2015, 7:54:15 UTC Abandoned 7 Jan 2015, 7:06:14 UTC Abandoned 7 Jan 2015, 6:53:01 UTC Abandoned 7 Jan 2015, 3:48:06 UTC Abandoned 7 Jan 2015, 1:19:25 UTC Abandoned 6 Jan 2015, 23:35:04 UTC Abandoned 6 Jan 2015, 14:49:04 UTC Abandoned 6 Jan 2015, 11:37:22 UTC Abandoned 6 Jan 2015, 10:19:02 UTC Abandoned 6 Jan 2015, 8:53:17 UTC Abandoned 6 Jan 2015, 8:25:55 UTC Abandoned 6 Jan 2015, 7:29:28 UTC Abandoned 6 Jan 2015, 6:58:28 UTC Abandoned 6 Jan 2015, 6:47:32 UTC Abandoned 6 Jan 2015, 5:43:06 UTC Abandoned 6 Jan 2015, 4:24:32 UTC Abandoned 6 Jan 2015, 4:07:17 UTC Abandoned 6 Jan 2015, 3:40:49 UTC Abandoned 6 Jan 2015, 2:12:53 UTC Abandoned 5 Jan 2015, 23:54:13 UTC Abandoned 5 Jan 2015, 23:18:40 UTC Abandoned 5 Jan 2015, 23:06:27 UTC Abandoned 5 Jan 2015, 22:37:59 UTC Abandoned 5 Jan 2015, 20:18:25 UTC Abandoned 5 Jan 2015, 18:47:36 UTC Abandoned 5 Jan 2015, 18:20:15 UTC Abandoned 5 Jan 2015, 16:59:40 UTC Abandoned 5 Jan 2015, 16:34:02 UTC Abandoned 5 Jan 2015, 16:34:02 UTC Abandoned 5 Jan 2015, 15:19:35 UTC Abandoned 5 Jan 2015, 14:30:21 UTC Abandoned 5 Jan 2015, 13:03:10 UTC Abandoned 5 Jan 2015, 4:46:15 UTC Abandoned 5 Jan 2015, 4:14:33 UTC Abandoned 5 Jan 2015, 3:25:18 UTC Abandoned 5 Jan 2015, 1:54:52 UTC Abandoned 4 Jan 2015, 23:41:12 UTC Abandoned 4 Jan 2015, 23:23:38 UTC Abandoned 4 Jan 2015, 22:50:37 UTC Abandoned 4 Jan 2015, 21:06:22 UTC Abandoned 4 Jan 2015, 20:42:28 UTC Abandoned 4 Jan 2015, 19:30:43 UTC Abandoned 4 Jan 2015, 19:01:54 UTC Abandoned 4 Jan 2015, 17:18:04 UTC Abandoned 4 Jan 2015, 16:07:02 UTC Abandoned 4 Jan 2015, 15:16:07 UTC Abandoned 4 Jan 2015, 12:44:54 UTC Abandoned 4 Jan 2015, 8:04:14 UTC Abandoned 4 Jan 2015, 7:12:38 UTC Abandoned 4 Jan 2015, 3:28:53 UTC Abandoned 4 Jan 2015, 2:48:12 UTC Abandoned 4 Jan 2015, 0:35:49 UTC Abandoned 3 Jan 2015, 20:35:55 UTC Abandoned 3 Jan 2015, 19:35:46 UTC Abandoned 3 Jan 2015, 18:21:14 UTC Abandoned 3 Jan 2015, 12:08:43 UTC Abandoned 3 Jan 2015, 6:17:30 UTC Abandoned 3 Jan 2015, 2:06:55 UTC Abandoned 3 Jan 2015, 0:44:54 UTC Abandoned 2 Jan 2015, 20:56:15 UTC Abandoned 2 Jan 2015, 19:22:06 UTC Abandoned 2 Jan 2015, 16:03:28 UTC Abandoned 2 Jan 2015, 14:44:44 UTC Abandoned 2 Jan 2015, 11:57:49 UTC Abandoned 2 Jan 2015, 9:55:13 UTC Abandoned 2 Jan 2015, 9:01:33 UTC Abandoned 2 Jan 2015, 7:01:17 UTC Abandoned 2 Jan 2015, 3:20:22 UTC Abandoned 1 Jan 2015, 22:54:00 UTC Abandoned 1 Jan 2015, 16:13:46 UTC Abandoned 1 Jan 2015, 13:21:52 UTC Abandoned 1 Jan 2015, 11:29:39 UTC Abandoned 1 Jan 2015, 9:07:03 UTC Abandoned 1 Jan 2015, 7:04:50 UTC Abandoned 1 Jan 2015, 5:57:32 UTC Abandoned 1 Jan 2015, 4:35:50 UTC Abandoned 1 Jan 2015, 1:24:08 UTC Abandoned Claggy ID: 1625190 ·

Brent Norman Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 1 Dec 99 Posts: 2786 Credit: 685,657,289 RAC: 835	Message 1625192 - Posted: 7 Jan 2015, 23:35:12 UTC - in response to Message 1625190. With enough of these guys around there's plenty for us small fish to be had. I was wondering why I had a lot of _2 and _3 work. That host there. Either it's the ultimate form of cherry picking, or he's doing something else unexplainable. ;-) Definitely an abuser !!! No, It's constantly getting tasks abandoned, that happens if an earlier scheduler contact gets through after a later one, ie out of sequence, It's eithier got a very poor ISP, or some sort of backup software that restores Boinc, But it restores a client_state.xml with an earlier <rpc_seqno>, The scheduler will mark all those tasks abandoned, If you were able to see the result from those abandoned tasks, you'll probably find that host is still crunching them. Claggy I see your point there. Was thinking it was aborted by user, and not marked "abandoned" by either client or server. My bad. ID: 1625192 ·

JaundicedEye Send message Joined: 14 Mar 12 Posts: 5375 Credit: 30,870,693 RAC: 1	Message 1625193 - Posted: 7 Jan 2015, 23:36:24 UTC - in response to Message 1625175. Lionel I find it ironic that the loudest whiners seem to those who have spent thousands on computers yet won't even spend $10.00 to buy a green star. You are getting much more than what you paid for. +++++100 "Sour Grapes make a bitter Whine." <(0)> ID: 1625193 ·

Grant (SSSF) Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 19 Aug 99 Posts: 13731 Credit: 208,696,464 RAC: 304	Message 1625194 - Posted: 7 Jan 2015, 23:36:24 UTC - in response to Message 1625075. And as I replied to the original post: Since MB work occupies the same fanout directories as AP work, that will affect MB splitting as well. But at least we can crack on with returning MB work for assimilation, and thus recycle the limited space available. I've been away for a week and got back to find MB & AP splitters still struggling to produce work. It's nice to know there is a reason for it, the Lab are aware of it & the fix is being implemented. Grant Darwin NT ID: 1625194 ·

Bernie Vine Volunteer moderator Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 26 May 99 Posts: 9954 Credit: 103,452,613 RAC: 328	Message 1625202 - Posted: 8 Jan 2015, 0:02:07 UTC - in response to Message 1625175. Lionel I find it ironic that the loudest whiners seem to those who have spent thousands on computers yet won't even spend $10.00 to buy a green star. You are getting much more than what you paid for. Please remember "green stars" are user selectable, the absence of a green star does not mean a person has not donated. I choose to not to have a green star when I donate. ID: 1625202 ·

Darth Beaver Send message Joined: 20 Aug 99 Posts: 6728 Credit: 21,443,075 RAC: 3	Message 1625205 - Posted: 8 Jan 2015, 0:06:20 UTC - in response to Message 1625179. Good to here Julie getting rid of your dust bunnys has helped . Annoying little critters clogging everything up hehehehe ID: 1625205 ·

Darth Beaver Send message Joined: 20 Aug 99 Posts: 6728 Credit: 21,443,075 RAC: 3	Message 1625206 - Posted: 8 Jan 2015, 0:13:33 UTC Can someone thank the Kittyman for me for letting us have a idea on what's going on in the background . Thank's Mark . At least it's not a big problem once the data base is completely fixed we should be back to normal . As for the Uber machines bad luck guys you will just have to be patient and take what ever you can get or get your machines to do 2 projects so your always getting some work done on seti and some work done on another project till the data base is fixed in a few weeks and the servers can supply everyone with heaps of work 24/7 ID: 1625206 ·

BONNSaR Send message Joined: 9 Nov 04 Posts: 38 Credit: 21,538,589 RAC: 9	Message 1625214 - Posted: 8 Jan 2015, 0:46:28 UTC AUD $50 just been donated. ID: 1625214 ·

Speedy Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 26 Jun 04 Posts: 1643 Credit: 12,921,799 RAC: 89	Message 1625217 - Posted: 8 Jan 2015, 1:06:15 UTC Glenn I have just passed on thanks to Mark from us all for the information. I wish the AP database Speedy (no pun intended) recovery ID: 1625217 ·

Darth Beaver Send message Joined: 20 Aug 99 Posts: 6728 Credit: 21,443,075 RAC: 3	Message 1625218 - Posted: 8 Jan 2015, 1:08:36 UTC - in response to Message 1625217. Thanks Speedy ID: 1625218 ·

Brent Norman Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 1 Dec 99 Posts: 2786 Credit: 685,657,289 RAC: 835	Message 1625221 - Posted: 8 Jan 2015, 1:16:40 UTC Yes kitty, that OLD message from Keith is still relevant as I see itand was a very good read. If you haven't read it, You should. ID: 1625221 ·

Keith Myers Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 29 Apr 01 Posts: 13164 Credit: 1,160,866,277 RAC: 1,873	Message 1625228 - Posted: 8 Jan 2015, 2:01:19 UTC - in response to Message 1625057. I hadn't noticed my star disappearing from my profile and posted my donation at the end of December. After all, I felt I needed to back my favorite son project even though I won't get the neat T-shirt my donation to MilkWay gained me. My monetary donation is nothing compared to the costs of the electrical power my two crunchers accumulate over a year but at least the donation adds to the bottom line of the project directly and hopefully keeps the staff employed. Cheers, Keith Seti@Home classic workunits:20,676 CPU time:74,226 hours A proud member of the OFA (Old Farts Association) ID: 1625228 ·

JaundicedEye Send message Joined: 14 Mar 12 Posts: 5375 Credit: 30,870,693 RAC: 1	Message 1625243 - Posted: 8 Jan 2015, 2:46:37 UTC - in response to Message 1625193. You are getting much more than what you paid for. The message boards alone are worth the price of a donation, great forum for exchanging info and ideas, not to mention humor. And unlike Twitter, Facebook etc. ad nauseum, you are actually contributing to scientific research instead of vacuous self admiration. Just one old man's opinion.... :D "Sour Grapes make a bitter Whine." <(0)> ID: 1625243 ·

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