Europa Mission Wins Big in New NASA Budget...
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Darth Beaver     Send message Joined: 20 Aug 99 Posts: 6728 Credit: 21,443,075 RAC: 3 
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Bob i don't think they would have to worry to much about contamination . It's one thing to be in low Earth orbit but to go to Europa i don't think anything on a craft would last the for long . The radiation is much higher beyond the Van Allen radiation belt . I've herd people say that before as a excuse not to go . And then they put there idea to waste a few 100 mil on going somewhere else with a much lower chance of finding life . If there is life on another planet then that is the most likely place so how about we stop wasting money going to places like Mars or Meteorites and just go to Europa 
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KLiK Send message Joined: 31 Mar 14 Posts: 1304 Credit: 22,994,597 RAC: 60 
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Obviously NASA and Congress haven't read 2010: Odyssey Two Yeah...but in 2000 we had Y2K, so couldn't do a mission 2001! :D And the 2010 was scrapped also.. ;)   non-profit org. Play4Life in Zagreb, Croatia, EU ID: 1624801 · |
 Bob DeWoody  Send message Joined: 9 May 10 Posts: 3387 Credit: 4,182,900 RAC: 10 
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We should, as a group, quit inserting comments about a work of fiction into a discussion about what may be factual data. Such comments confuse some people into thinking something from a fictional movie is relevant to the discussion. Bob DeWoody My motto: Never do today what you can put off until tomorrow as it may not be required. This no longer applies in light of current events. ID: 1624812 · |
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Bob DeWoody Send message Joined: 9 May 10 Posts: 3387 Credit: 4,182,900 RAC: 10
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Bob - maybe these authors are closer to the truth than we care to admit ?? Don't get me wrong, Arthur C Clarke was my favorite all time Sci Fi writer and all details in his books have an air of authenticity to them. But it was still fiction. I have seen other quotes in the Science forum from time to time referring to Star Trek, Star Wars, Battlestar Galactica and others that give the appearance that the poster believes the stuff really happens that way. When stating the power needs of some concepts, like warp drive, someone will chime in "why don't they just use a zero point module?" Most of us know such devices are currently fantasy and may be forever but they have become part of the folklore to the point where distinguishing fact from fiction has become blurred. Bob DeWoody My motto: Never do today what you can put off until tomorrow as it may not be required. This no longer applies in light of current events. ID: 1624956 · |
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KLiK Send message Joined: 31 Mar 14 Posts: 1304 Credit: 22,994,597 RAC: 60
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OK, getting back to the topic... I bet in a $100, that they'll find a fish or sthg multicellular down there! ;) non-profit org. Play4Life in Zagreb, Croatia, EU ID: 1625323 · |
Julie  Send message Joined: 28 Oct 09 Posts: 34053 Credit: 18,883,157 RAC: 18 
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Darth Beaver Send message Joined: 20 Aug 99 Posts: 6728 Credit: 21,443,075 RAC: 3
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Could be like the bottom of our oceans near Black Smokers . Tube worms , shrimps , it's the most likely place so far in our solar system and outside it The bottom of our oceans prove you don't need sunlight to have life just warm water and minerals life will find a way if there is a liquid ocean under the ice , it has on Earth at least twice
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KLiK Send message Joined: 31 Mar 14 Posts: 1304 Credit: 22,994,597 RAC: 60
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Maybe an Alien looks like this:  (picture od Deep see worm) ;) non-profit org. Play4Life in Zagreb, Croatia, EU ID: 1628285 · |
Gary Charpentier  Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 30640 Credit: 53,134,872 RAC: 32
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Nah, that's the mother in law ...... Remember the old saw, if you want to know what your wife will look like in twenty years, look at the mother in law ....... 
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Peter Mitchell  Send message Joined: 3 Apr 07 Posts: 21 Credit: 47,198 RAC: 0
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As regards the probe and melting through the ice pack, a nuclear powered heat source sounds like it would eventually lend itself to contamination. Any ideas what else NASA might use? ID: 1628785 · |
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Peter Mitchell Send message Joined: 3 Apr 07 Posts: 21 Credit: 47,198 RAC: 0
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Lo and behold, I just thought of how to search that issue on google... Seek and ye shall find... Lasers could Help Cryobots Melt Through Ice on Europa 
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William Rothamel  Send message Joined: 25 Oct 06 Posts: 3756 Credit: 1,999,735 RAC: 4
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Lasers still require power--lots of it ; and the ice is 2 miles thick. Most likely if we try this it will require nuclear power. ID: 1628941 · |
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Peter Mitchell Send message Joined: 3 Apr 07 Posts: 21 Credit: 47,198 RAC: 0
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How about blowing up the ice with a few tons of of thermite... This video shows what 150 kg of thermite can do to a lake in Norway. They were trying to create a hole to connect with a tunnel for water to pass through to a lower area for hydroelectric energy production... How to Blow up a Lake If they could figure out how not to kill off the life, this might be a solution, no?
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KLiK Send message Joined: 31 Mar 14 Posts: 1304 Credit: 22,994,597 RAC: 60
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Why do u americans always like to blow things up? Also, beware of the SGO (Space greenpeace organization) to put a protest...even with some ETs! LoL :D non-profit org. Play4Life in Zagreb, Croatia, EU ID: 1629682 · |
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Bob DeWoody Send message Joined: 9 May 10 Posts: 3387 Credit: 4,182,900 RAC: 10
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The article I read a while back indicated that they plan to melt their way through the ice with what is most likely a nuclear powered probe. Even if you wanted to I don't think explosives could open up a path through two miles of ice. Bob DeWoody My motto: Never do today what you can put off until tomorrow as it may not be required. This no longer applies in light of current events. ID: 1629794 · |
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