Jupiter not only gravitationally alters orbits but it is also our cosmic Hoover vacuum. It does swallow many possible hazzards to our existence.

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If you ask my grand kids they will tell you
that their Grand Dad can do any thing, so he (Me)
is most likely the shield for earth!

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Going fishing :)

So did he ever actually eat them? I suppose we'll
never know.

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~Sue~

I doubt anyone will eat these, they might be someones pets..

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The T1 Trust, PRR T1 Class 4-4-4-4 #5550, 1 of America's First HST's

I've had a personal space rock defense system for years....



Better safe than sorry.

Typical trigger happy USA police. Bastards.

+100

I agree that it was very unfortunate that the cat had to be destroyed, but Chris please know that mountain lions tend to eat joggers now and again. Would you want your niece jogging in a park if a mountain lion had taken up residence there?

Correct, the park here had a Bobcat near the dumpsters a few years back, considering this is a family park with children running around, the park manager at the time was completely justified in killing the Bobcat(Lynx), which is almost as big as a Mountain Lion(or Puma or Cougar, same animal, different names) and just as lethal..

What happened to capture, relocate, and release?

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~Sue~

I think that the best thing we can do to protect wildlife is to find kind, gentle and supportive ways of limiting the population growth, and with time reducing the total population, of our own species. We human beings are far too successful a species. We threaten the existence of wildlife, the health of our planet and ultimately the very survival of ourselves.

Hear, hear!

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~Sue~

Typical trigger happy USA police. Bastards.

+100

I know it is election day over there and you are likely in a very crummy mood, but this post is inexcusable and as full of ignorance as you hold UKIP to be.

<ed>BTW the building it was next to is an abused Children's center.

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Typical trigger happy USA police. Bastards.

+100

I agree that it was very unfortunate that the cat had to be destroyed, but Chris please know that mountain lions tend to eat joggers now and again. Would you want your niece jogging in a park if a mountain lion had taken up residence there?

Correct, the park here had a Bobcat near the dumpsters a few years back, considering this is a family park with children running around, the park manager at the time was completely justified in killing the Bobcat(Lynx), which is almost as big as a Mountain Lion(or Puma or Cougar, same animal, different names) and just as lethal..

What happened to capture, relocate, and release?

For bears, this is done in National Parks and such in CA, for Cats I don't know and this was on Private Property, nothing came of it either.

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The T1 Trust, PRR T1 Class 4-4-4-4 #5550, 1 of America's First HST's

What happened to capture, relocate, and release?

Admittedly, having wildlife such as a mountain lion turn up in this area is extremely rare. Their natural range is about 300 miles north and west of Omaha at the closest. With a metro area population of nearly a million, it's not an area you would expect to find a big cat. Over the past 10 years there have been dozens of sightings, most of which were never confirmed, or proven to be misidentifications of indiginous wildlife or domestic animals. In my recolection there have been 5 confirmed lions. Two struck and killed by vehicles on the interstate, two (this one yesterday and one other a couple years ago) put down by law enforcement or humane society, both well with in the city, and one more fortunate cat that was shot and wounded in town, then tranquilized and transported to the Omaha Henry Doorly Zoo where it's wounds were treated and, upon recovery, was placed in the large cat display. Not sure if if it's still a resident there. I spend a fair amount of time in the 'wilderness' outside the city, and judging from tracks and other indications, mountain lions aren't nearly as rare in eastern Nebraska as the statistics show. For them to show up several miles into the city itself is what's unusual. With an abundance of small wild animals, wild pigs, deer, turkey and water fowl in the more rural areas up and down the Missouri river, a population of big cats could thrive virtually undetected. But Progress, that most dangerous and greedy beast of prey, decreases those 'wild' areas steadily each year.

We here in central Alberta are just east of
the main wildlife areas, we also have the North
Saskatewan river five miles away from us where
there is a regular population passing from the
mountains east to Hudson's Bay!
We have regular reports of Lions and black and
brown bears attacking farm animals, and some times
people. Here if possible, catch and release is
tried first. If a life or lives are at stake, the
people win!

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_fatal_cougar_attacks_in_North_America
This is gruesome, so only click if you are truly interested.

What happened to capture, relocate, and release?

Admittedly, having wildlife such as a mountain lion turn up in this area is extremely rare. Their natural range is about 300 miles north and west of Omaha at the closest. With a metro area population of nearly a million, it's not an area you would expect to find a big cat. Over the past 10 years there have been dozens of sightings, most of which were never confirmed, or proven to be misidentifications of indiginous wildlife or domestic animals. In my recolection there have been 5 confirmed lions. Two struck and killed by vehicles on the interstate, two (this one yesterday and one other a couple years ago) put down by law enforcement or humane society, both well with in the city, and one more fortunate cat that was shot and wounded in town, then tranquilized and transported to the Omaha Henry Doorly Zoo where it's wounds were treated and, upon recovery, was placed in the large cat display. Not sure if if it's still a resident there. I spend a fair amount of time in the 'wilderness' outside the city, and judging from tracks and other indications, mountain lions aren't nearly as rare in eastern Nebraska as the statistics show. For them to show up several miles into the city itself is what's unusual. With an abundance of small wild animals, wild pigs, deer, turkey and water fowl in the more rural areas up and down the Missouri river, a population of big cats could thrive virtually undetected. But Progress, that most dangerous and greedy beast of prey, decreases those 'wild' areas steadily each year.

Here in California, another issue driving windlife into urban areas is the drought. Here in the Central Valley, there have been several instances of Bears following dry creekbeds down from the foothills to towns on the valley floor, looking for food or water. We've had at least two bears in Visalia, one of which had been captured in Porterville, tagged, and relocated to the Sequoia National Forest, but turned up here a month later. Don't recall if it was relocated a second time, or put down.

My friends in the Department of Fish and Game tell me that once a wild animal like a big cat or a bear gets acclimated to an urban area, it loses its fear of humans, and cannot be successfully relocated - it will keep coming back, and will have to be put down whe caught.

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Donald
Infernal Optimist / Submariner, retired

With regard to the whole mountain lion discussion.......and this applies to a lot of other similar situations these days.

We as human beings, have continually and steadily encroached upon and diminished the territories that these wild animals consider THEIR homes.
The reality is that WE are the trespassers, not the wild animals.

Chris has a very high regard for all species of wild animals and their abuse, and as such, may have overreacted a bit with his statement. Grant him a bit of forgiveness, please. I do the same when I get going on something I feel very strongly about.

If we take away their homes, just where do we expect these wild animals to go and not 'bother' or endanger us?

It's just a no win situation for the wild critters.

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"Freedom is just Chaos, with better lighting." Alan Dean Foster

My GF once met a lynx when she was 7 years old walking to school.
She thought it was a big cat.
She have not been that scared since then.
The Lynx however just sat and looked at here.

Lynx kid who is a few weeks old and just beginning to open the eyes.


Here all dead wolves, even those legally shot, are autopsied. Of 196 wolves that were autopsied the years 1996-2011 had 21 (11 percent) old gunshot wounds. But it is not only firearms used to kill wolves illegally. During the period 2003-2011 found six poisoned baits in the same wolf territory in Dalarna.
https://translate.google.se/translate?hl=sv&sl=sv&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rovdjur.se%2Fom-rovdjur%2Fvargfakta[/quote]

I would much rather face a Mountain Lion than a Wolverine any day. Wolverines are mad and hungry ALL THE TIME. Basically a P.O.'d cross between a bear and a badger. :D

Wolverine also became notorious when it went to the hunters or the reindeer herder cabins to leave their smelly glandular fluid.
The Swedish government offered a bounty for the wolverine until a protection law in 1969. The population was in a period strongly endangered, so in order to save them a program was developed by the Environmental Protection Agency.

The wolverine, a solitary animal, has a reputation for ferocity and strength out of proportion to its size, with the documented ability to kill prey many times larger than itself.

Look out for the kids...

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Member of the People Encouraging Niceness In Society club.

Look out for the kids...

That's about 10 miles south of me. I love having them about, as long as I know they are there and take property and security precautions.

One was 'wintering' in the engine compartment of my boat 3 years ago and SCARED THE HELL out of me when I opened the lid for the spring start up. I went over one side and he/she went over the opposite.

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"Sour Grapes make a bitter Whine." <(0)>

smelly glandular fluid.

It's not that bad....

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smelly glandular fluid.

It's not that bad....

I have not smelled wolverines, "järvar":)
There is only about 200 of them here in Scandinavia.

However, the most dangerous animal in Scandinavia is the moose...
http://www.canoeguide.net/en/vorbereitung/wolf-baer-vielfrass-und-ein-echter-killer