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Message 1615875 - Posted: 18 Dec 2014, 18:26:36 UTC - in response to Message 1615871.  

There's a simple enough answer, but the West is too scared to do it & all because of Civil Rights.

Kick them into the 21st century.

You want an Islamic state, fair enough. Let's see how you feed them when the West kicks out all of Islam, with the provisio that if they attempt to expand outside of that territory, they'll be attacked.

They'll have what they want, no interference from the West & we'll sit back & watch them kill each other - self inflicted genocide.

Unfortunately, that'll never happen due to the many useless BHL's in the West.

Harsh? Maybe, but so was the killing of 132 children & all we see the West do is to give vocal condemnation!
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Message 1615876 - Posted: 18 Dec 2014, 18:28:23 UTC - in response to Message 1615875.  

Harsh? Maybe, but so was the killing of 132 children & all we see the West do is to give vocal condemnation!


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Message 1615892 - Posted: 18 Dec 2014, 18:44:55 UTC - in response to Message 1615884.  

There's a simple enough answer, but the West is too scared to do it & all because of Civil Rights.

Kick them into the 21st century.

You want an Islamic state, fair enough. Let's see how you feed them when the West kicks out all of Islam, with the provisio that if they attempt to expand outside of that territory, they'll be attacked.

Unfortunately, we are being dragged into a 'Perfect Storm' of Jihadists attempting to restore a Caliph, and an Islamist Civil War.

So...

They'll have what they want, no interference from the West & we'll sit back & watch them kill each other - self inflicted genocide.
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Message 1615905 - Posted: 18 Dec 2014, 19:08:52 UTC - in response to Message 1615901.  

There's a simple enough answer, but the West is too scared to do it & all because of Civil Rights.

Kick them into the 21st century.

You want an Islamic state, fair enough. Let's see how you feed them when the West kicks out all of Islam, with the provisio that if they attempt to expand outside of that territory, they'll be attacked.

Unfortunately, we are being dragged into a 'Perfect Storm' of Jihadists attempting to restore a Caliph, and an Islamist Civil War.

So...

They'll have what they want, no interference from the West & we'll sit back & watch them kill each other - self inflicted genocide.

Understand the idea of a 'Fence'.

What would you do with their supporter's living in The West?

Answer already mentioned.
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Message 1615909 - Posted: 18 Dec 2014, 19:11:29 UTC - in response to Message 1615901.  
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There's a simple enough answer, but the West is too scared to do it & all because of Civil Rights.
Kick them into the 21st century.
You want an Islamic state, fair enough. Let's see how you feed them when the West kicks out all of Islam, with the provisio that if they attempt to expand outside of that territory, they'll be attacked.

Unfortunately, we are being dragged into a 'Perfect Storm' of Jihadists attempting to restore a Caliph, and an Islamist Civil War.

So...
They'll have what they want, no interference from the West & we'll sit back & watch them kill each other - self inflicted genocide.

Understand the idea of a 'Fence'.
What would you do with their supporter's living in The West?

Coming soon to a home theater near you!
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Message 1615910 - Posted: 18 Dec 2014, 19:12:41 UTC - in response to Message 1615909.  

There's a simple enough answer, but the West is too scared to do it & all because of Civil Rights.
Kick them into the 21st century.
You want an Islamic state, fair enough. Let's see how you feed them when the West kicks out all of Islam, with the provisio that if they attempt to expand outside of that territory, they'll be attacked.

Unfortunately, we are being dragged into a 'Perfect Storm' of Jihadists attempting to restore a Caliph, and an Islamist Civil War.

So...
They'll have what they want, no interference from the West & we'll sit back & watch them kill each other - self inflicted genocide.

Understand the idea of a 'Fence'.
What would you do with their supporter's living in The West?

Coming soon to a home theater near you!

Already has. It's called "White House Down" - good film :-)
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Message 1615928 - Posted: 18 Dec 2014, 19:55:19 UTC

Pakistan's watershed?

After reading that report, I wonder what our home grown terrorists or sympathisers think of this?
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Message 1615989 - Posted: 18 Dec 2014, 22:49:14 UTC - in response to Message 1615787.  

They attack and murder us, because we Exist. The MUST kill us, because we are not Them. That is Their 1000 year History.

No they don't. Thats not their motive and this is why, no matter how far you go in bombing them, you would never win.

The Art of War is not an art you understand or are talented in.
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Message 1615995 - Posted: 18 Dec 2014, 22:59:17 UTC - in response to Message 1615989.  

The Art of War is not an art you understand or are talented in.

Coming from a bookworm with no experience himself to rely on is insulting to say the least.
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Message 1615997 - Posted: 18 Dec 2014, 23:07:50 UTC - in response to Message 1615995.  

The Art of War is not an art you understand or are talented in.

Coming from a bookworm with no experience himself to rely on is insulting to say the least.


It's amazing what you can learn from books. They are so powerful that now and again dictators have to burn them.
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Message 1615998 - Posted: 18 Dec 2014, 23:09:28 UTC - in response to Message 1615995.  

Coming from a bookworm with no experience himself to rely on is insulting to say the least.

Perhaps, however I'm quite certain that Sun Tzu was absolutely right when he said you are gonna have a hard time defeating your enemy when you don't understand their motives, something which CLYDE has nicely demonstrated he doesn't understand.

And call it a stylistic issue, but I also think Sun Tzu was absolutely right when he said the supreme art of war is not to defeat your enemy in battle, but to break them without having to fight. Again a principle CLYDE does his best to completely ignore with all his talk about how we should commit genocide and perhaps even drop some tactical nukes in the area.

Incidentally the people that argue we should use nukes also don't understand the use of atomic weapons, both in the tactical and strategical sense.

As for my experience, we are talking long term strategic policy here. Non of you has any actual experience with that (unless one of you was President of a nuclear power or some Commander in Chief of some countries armed forces), but it is exactly what I've been studying. Theoretical knowledge beats your complete lack of knowledge, be it practical or theoretical.
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Message 1615999 - Posted: 18 Dec 2014, 23:10:12 UTC - in response to Message 1615989.  
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Message 1616000 - Posted: 18 Dec 2014, 23:11:17 UTC - in response to Message 1615997.  

It's amazing what you can learn from books. They are so powerful that now and again dictators have to burn them.

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So true...
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Message 1616001 - Posted: 18 Dec 2014, 23:11:25 UTC - in response to Message 1615989.  

The Art of War is not an art you understand or are talented in.

The Art of War is the English title of Sun Zi's Art of War, although direct translation is "On the means of using soldiers."
Read that!
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Message 1616002 - Posted: 18 Dec 2014, 23:12:03 UTC - in response to Message 1616001.  

The Art of War is the English title of Sun Zi's Art of War, although direct translation is "On the means of using soldiers."
Read that!

I have.
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Message 1616008 - Posted: 18 Dec 2014, 23:25:05 UTC - in response to Message 1615998.  

As for my experience, we are talking long term strategic policy here. Non of you has any actual experience with that (unless one of you was President of a nuclear power or some Commander in Chief of some countries armed forces), but it is exactly what I've been studying. Theoretical knowledge beats your complete lack of knowledge, be it practical or theoretical.


That's why the planet is in a world of crap! Too many with their heads stuck in books & insulting to others when they attain a position in power. In other words, they've learnt nothing but how to put their views on what they've learnt in effect...

...& hate being proven wrong.
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Message 1616009 - Posted: 18 Dec 2014, 23:26:04 UTC - in response to Message 1616002.  

The Art of War is the English title of Sun Zi's Art of War, although direct translation is "On the means of using soldiers."
Read that!

I have.

Good:)
As you say Sun Tzu was absolutely right when he said the supreme art of war is not to defeat your enemy in battle, but to break them without having to fight.
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Message 1616014 - Posted: 18 Dec 2014, 23:44:32 UTC - in response to Message 1616009.  

The Art of War is the English title of Sun Zi's Art of War, although direct translation is "On the means of using soldiers."
Read that!

I have.

Good:)
As you say Sun Tzu was absolutely right when he said the supreme art of war is not to defeat your enemy in battle, but to break them without having to fight.

Quite. Force them to spend huge piles on defense because of what they might do. Make them restrict their commerce because they have to be sure nothing supports you. And on and on. Bankrupt them. Sap their strength to resist. The death of a thousand cuts. You do have to be careful, if they choose to go morally bankrupt and commit genocide, it backfires.
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Message 1616033 - Posted: 19 Dec 2014, 1:13:02 UTC

Well using a book buy a long dead general at a time when there was not the means of wiping out a whole country is stupid . His tactics are useless in today's wars

Have we not tried to cut there money flow off , umm yep but it hasn't worked .

Micheal you remind me of all those so called people in the know whom sent and planed the Gallipoli campain and look what happen'd there .

We would be better if we use Roman tactics . Kill them all and raise there towns and city's to the ground .

Why do you think the Iraq army ran like cowards ? Because they used fear of being beheaded if they where caught .

We must use the same tactic's as them and even go a bit beyond that to make it very clear this is not going to be tolerated and we are not scared of them until we do that we are going to lose and it will spread . Simple fact so far all the tactics have not worked because we are not committed enough to do the job properly and they know this so we have lost the war before it even started .
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Message 1616036 - Posted: 19 Dec 2014, 1:28:50 UTC - in response to Message 1616033.  

We must use the same tactic's as them and even go a bit beyond that to make it very clear this is not going to be tolerated and we are not scared of them until we do that we are going to lose and it will spread . Simple fact so far all the tactics have not worked because we are not committed enough to do the job properly and they know this so we have lost the war before it even started .

Never going to happen because the West is too civilised & also too scared of the human rights brigade.

Throughout the West, there are more than enough of them to make up an Army Corps. Wouldn't it be much better to scoop them all up, give them weapons & send them into the combat zones?

I'll lay odds that those that manage to return unscathed will no longer be part of any Human Rights Brigade!
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