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Message 1668574 - Posted: 22 Apr 2015, 19:58:38 UTC

"Opposing" views maybe? Both written by women.

Feminism at work? Or a load of ****** (Pun intended :-) )

Want promotion? Have more nookie
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Message 1668719 - Posted: 23 Apr 2015, 1:45:20 UTC - in response to Message 1668573.  

I am quite sure that I speak for everyone here when I say that we all have the utmost respect for ES99 and her views about feminism and female equality, I most certainly do. But it has to be realised that a lot of other people don't think that way, and the extremists on the fringe do not do the crusade any good. And yes it is a crusade, it shouldn't have to be by rights, but it is, and I support it.

But lets not get too thin skinned about it at times.


Please tell us how to run the crusade, Chris.

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Message 1668760 - Posted: 23 Apr 2015, 4:52:10 UTC

Fun watching the MCP's use backhoes to dig fast and deep. Although it isn't quite as much fun as watching a train wreck in super slow motion.
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Message 1668837 - Posted: 23 Apr 2015, 9:11:41 UTC

Sex and religion keeping youg girls well informed in 2015

Girls at Catholic school warned sex before marriage can 'destroy soul' and 'make bodies sick'
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Message 1668870 - Posted: 23 Apr 2015, 10:20:18 UTC - in response to Message 1668719.  

I wouldn't be so bold as to image I could do that Hev! And I don't class you as an extremist either. I think there should be employment legislation that says it is illegal to pay women less than men for doing the same job with equal responsibilities. We have the race relations laws where it is illegal to discriminate on the basis of race. I think we should have similar laws where it is illegal to discriminate against women on the basis of their gender.

I would be lobbying MP's to bring in Private Members Bills on these matters, I would be lobbying Nicky Morgan to strengthen her role Minister for Women, also Lynne Featherstone is very Supportive Lynne having also held this post. That is what I would be doing rather than going on rallies and demonstrating in the streets.
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Message 1668874 - Posted: 23 Apr 2015, 10:24:26 UTC - in response to Message 1668837.  

The leaflets warned that condoms and the morning-after pill put people "at risk" and make them "isolated".

So are they advocating abortions or advocating having unwanted babies?

Most people accept that living together while engaged, for a while before marriage is a sensible thing to prepare for a life together. If it isn't going to work for whatever reason, best to find that out then rather than later.
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Message 1668876 - Posted: 23 Apr 2015, 10:32:31 UTC - in response to Message 1668874.  

The leaflets warned that condoms and the morning-after pill put people "at risk" and make them "isolated".

So are they advocating abortions or advocating having unwanted babies?
If they're like the school i went to, they're probably advocating total abstinence.
I'm catholic (technically) so i should worry about it destroying my soul, but i'm also ginger, so i have no soul to destroy...

Most people accept that living together while engaged, for a while before marriage is a sensible thing to prepare for a life together. If it isn't going to work for whatever reason, best to find that out then rather than later.
Agreed. It would be like buying a car without taking it for a test drive.
Life on earth is the global equivalent of not storing things in the fridge.
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Message 1668926 - Posted: 23 Apr 2015, 13:41:31 UTC - in response to Message 1668874.  

The leaflets warned that condoms and the morning-after pill put people "at risk" and make them "isolated".

So are they advocating abortions or advocating having unwanted babies?

They are advocating a fantasy land where there is a mythical man in the sky.
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Message 1668932 - Posted: 23 Apr 2015, 14:03:38 UTC - in response to Message 1668926.  

The leaflets warned that condoms and the morning-after pill put people "at risk" and make them "isolated".

So are they advocating abortions or advocating having unwanted babies?

They are advocating a fantasy land where there is a mythical man in the sky.

Yes.
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Message 1668978 - Posted: 23 Apr 2015, 16:05:50 UTC - in response to Message 1668932.  

What?!!! No screaming about extreme liberals or extreme conservatives?

Can't have hit dead center ......

Oh wait, its Thorsday! :)
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Message 1668981 - Posted: 23 Apr 2015, 16:15:58 UTC - in response to Message 1668978.  
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What?!!! No screaming about extreme liberals or extreme conservatives?

Can't have hit dead center ......

Oh wait, its Thorsday! :)

You have to understand, if you can -

I agree, basically, what the problems are.

It the Extreme Liberals, and Extreme Conservatives 'Solutions', I believe are, most times: Worse than The Problems.

I am just a Practical, neither Left/Right Puritan, Learn from History, Understand Human Nature, person.

Edit: I also believe in LGBT Rights, Gay Marriage, Women are Discriminated Against, Blacks are Discriminated Against (by both The Left and The Right), etc.
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Message 1669369 - Posted: 24 Apr 2015, 13:23:05 UTC

As we've seen in some of the rather patronising sexist comments on this thread recently, moving to a more balanced and enlightened 'attitude' and culture is in some areas still a long long way away...

Here's yet another example and one example where the numbers are suggestive:


Ellen Pao faces $1m legal bill in sexism case

Ellen Pao, the woman who took a Silicon Valley firm to court over sexism claims and lost, has been asked to pay legal costs of nearly $1m (£660,000).

Venture capital firm Kleiner Perkins has said it will waive these costs if former employee Ms Pao does not appeal against the jury's decision...



And for my own experience for my 'high tech' areas of work, the male-female ratio has been as extreme as 200:1 !!! For various areas I've seen in high tech, women seem to be seen as more of a 'non-tech support'.

All from too many years of 'stereotyping' and 'type-casting'?

Unfortunately, attitudes seem to be inherited and perhaps need a few generations to break out into new areas...

Interestingly, the far more pleasant office areas where I've worked have been where the male/female balance has been better balanced.


A crying need for better balanced education and less misogynist TV and religion?

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Message 1669385 - Posted: 24 Apr 2015, 13:53:44 UTC - in response to Message 1669369.  
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As we've seen in some of the rather patronising sexist comments on this thread recently, moving to a more balanced and enlightened 'attitude' and culture is in some areas still a long long way away...

Here's yet another example and one example where the numbers are suggestive:


Ellen Pao faces $1m legal bill in sexism case

Ellen Pao, the woman who took a Silicon Valley firm to court over sexism claims and lost, has been asked to pay legal costs of nearly $1m (£660,000).

Venture capital firm Kleiner Perkins has said it will waive these costs if former employee Ms Pao does not appeal against the jury's decision...



And for my own experience for my 'high tech' areas of work, the male-female ratio has been as extreme as 200:1 !!! For various areas I've seen in high tech, women seem to be seen as more of a 'non-tech support'.

All from too many years of 'stereotyping' and 'type-casting'?

Unfortunately, attitudes seem to be inherited and perhaps need a few generations to break out into new areas...

Interestingly, the far more pleasant office areas where I've worked have been where the male/female balance has been better balanced.


A crying need for better balanced education and less misogynist TV and religion?

All in our only one world,
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So...

This Individual Accusation, was deemed Legally False.

This is why, one should not believe Every Individual Claim, about anything, as Gospel.
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Message 1669388 - Posted: 24 Apr 2015, 14:01:58 UTC - in response to Message 1669385.  
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As we've seen in some of the rather patronising sexist comments on this thread recently, moving to a more balanced and enlightened 'attitude' and culture is in some areas still a long long way away...

Here's yet another example and one example where the numbers are suggestive:


Ellen Pao faces $1m legal bill in sexism case

Ellen Pao, the woman who took a Silicon Valley firm to court over sexism claims and lost, has been asked to pay legal costs of nearly $1m (£660,000).

Venture capital firm Kleiner Perkins has said it will waive these costs if former employee Ms Pao does not appeal against the jury's decision...



And for my own experience for my 'high tech' areas of work, the male-female ratio has been as extreme as 200:1 !!! For various areas I've seen in high tech, women seem to be seen as more of a 'non-tech support'.

All from too many years of 'stereotyping' and 'type-casting'?

Unfortunately, attitudes seem to be inherited and perhaps need a few generations to break out into new areas...

Interestingly, the far more pleasant office areas where I've worked have been where the male/female balance has been better balanced.


A crying need for better balanced education and less misogynist TV and religion?

All in our only one world,
Martin

So...

This Individual Accusation, was deemed Legally False.

This is why, one should not believe Every Individual Claim, about anything, as Gospel.

Except... So dubiously so that there is great temptation placed there to dissuade from taking the case further...


So... Also the case that the American legal system looks to be more of a gameshow gamble than of dispassionate judgement... "OJ Simpson" anyone?...


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Message 1669391 - Posted: 24 Apr 2015, 14:05:35 UTC - in response to Message 1669388.  
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As we've seen in some of the rather patronising sexist comments on this thread recently, moving to a more balanced and enlightened 'attitude' and culture is in some areas still a long long way away...

Here's yet another example and one example where the numbers are suggestive:


Ellen Pao faces $1m legal bill in sexism case

Ellen Pao, the woman who took a Silicon Valley firm to court over sexism claims and lost, has been asked to pay legal costs of nearly $1m (£660,000).

Venture capital firm Kleiner Perkins has said it will waive these costs if former employee Ms Pao does not appeal against the jury's decision...



And for my own experience for my 'high tech' areas of work, the male-female ratio has been as extreme as 200:1 !!! For various areas I've seen in high tech, women seem to be seen as more of a 'non-tech support'.

All from too many years of 'stereotyping' and 'type-casting'?

Unfortunately, attitudes seem to be inherited and perhaps need a few generations to break out into new areas...

Interestingly, the far more pleasant office areas where I've worked have been where the male/female balance has been better balanced.


A crying need for better balanced education and less misogynist TV and religion?

All in our only one world,
Martin

So...

This Individual Accusation, was deemed Legally False.

This is why, one should not believe Every Individual Claim, about anything, as Gospel.

Except... So dubiously so that there is great temptation placed there to dissuade from taking the case further...


So... Also the case that the American legal system looks to be more of a gameshow gamble than of dispassionate judgement... "OJ Simpson" anyone?...

All in our only one world,
Martin

Why is This Case, the same as OJ?

What was incorrect about This Ruling?
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Message 1669400 - Posted: 24 Apr 2015, 15:04:32 UTC

The current mod team have three females and 4 males. Does any one agree with me that the balanace these days is far better than previous virtually all male teams?

Equality works!!
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Message 1669406 - Posted: 24 Apr 2015, 15:46:53 UTC - in response to Message 1669391.  

What was incorrect about This Ruling?

The only thing wrong is Martin's mind is hermetically sealed. It appears to operate like this, once upon a time a man discriminated against a woman, therefore all men always discriminate against women. Same thinking as a black man broke the law therefore all black men break the law.

Now, I'm sure Martin wasn't sitting in the jury box so he does not know what evidence was presented, nor did he watch the witnesses testify to know their creditability, so how he can form an opinion on this specific case .... he can't, but he can use a thought process like that outlined above .....
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Message 1669408 - Posted: 24 Apr 2015, 15:49:18 UTC

EqualityMeister said:
The current mod team have three females and 4 males. Does any one agree with me that the balanace these days is far better than previous virtually all male teams?

Equality works!!


I Agree The Amount of LickSpittles Here and The VRold in General has SKYROCKETED in Last Many Years.

To the DETRIMENT of ALL HuWoMans.

Yep.


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Message 1669427 - Posted: 24 Apr 2015, 16:25:45 UTC - in response to Message 1669400.  

The current mod team have three females and 4 males. Does any one agree with me that the balanace these days is far better than previous virtually all male teams?

Equality works!!

Agree.

Understanding the 'make up', also depends upon who is available.

Note: They were all male, in the past?
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Message 1669430 - Posted: 24 Apr 2015, 16:34:51 UTC

To be honest I am not 100% sure, I think at times they were all male. Certainly in the Fuzzy days there was only one female (for a while!), before that I wasn't around. Maybe others would know of the way back history. What I can say with certainty is that for many years the Mod team was heavily male dominated. I think it is refreshingly better now.
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