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Message 1615400 - Posted: 17 Dec 2014, 19:34:43 UTC

What makes people think that psychopaths don't know right from wrong. Surely the question ought to be "why do psychopaths stray from the straight and narrow?"
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Message 1615403 - Posted: 17 Dec 2014, 19:38:57 UTC - in response to Message 1615369.  
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Do we need one to know right from wrong - definitely not! :)

Some do. Psychopaths for instance.


Psychopaths need a god to know right from wrong?! *blink* Are you SURE jannesetti? :)

Yes but not a god:)
Religion seems very off topic to me...

There are plenty of personality disorders where you dont know right from wrong.
DSM-IV, the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders (American Psychiatric Association) defines a personality disorder as:
A. An enduring pattern of experience and behavior that deviates markedly from what is generally expected in the person's socio-cultural environment. The pattern is expressed in at least two of the following areas:
cognitions (ie way of perceiving and interpreting self, other people, and events) affectivity (ie, complexity, intensity, lability and absurdity of the emotional response) of human interaction impulse control
B. The enduring pattern is inflexible and appear in many different situations and contexts
C. The enduring pattern leads to clinically significant distress or impairment in social, occupational, or other important areas.
D. The pattern is stable and durable and can be traced back at least to adolescence or early adulthood.
E. The enduring pattern can not be better explained as an expression or consequence of another mental disorder.
F. The enduring pattern is not due to the direct physiological effects of a substance (eg, a drug of abuse, a medication) or a general medical condition / injury (eg, head trauma).
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Message 1615417 - Posted: 17 Dec 2014, 19:52:18 UTC - in response to Message 1615413.  

Do we need one to know right from wrong - definitely not! :)

Some do. Psychopaths for instance.


Of course we have to know right from wrong! It's called morals, or ethics, in a social point of view.

How much is inbred (by birth)? How much is taught?


You're asking a trick question in the eyes of Science as we humans don't have an answer for that (already, or never)

Don't we have to 'Teach' our children Right from Wrong?


Of course! Obligé!

Different Culture's/Religions/Ideology's may have a different concepts of Right and Wrong.


They Have different concepts of right and wrong.
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Message 1615418 - Posted: 17 Dec 2014, 19:56:32 UTC - in response to Message 1615413.  

Do we need one to know right from wrong - definitely not! :)

Some do. Psychopaths for instance.

Of course we have to know right from wrong! It's called morals, or ethics, in a social point of view.

How much is inbred (by birth)? How much is taught?
Don't we have to 'Teach' our children Right from Wrong?
Different Culture's/Religions/Ideology's may have a different concepts of Right and Wrong.

I Think it's called sociopaths what you are describing.
They do know the difference between right and wrong and use that to manipulate others.
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Message 1615453 - Posted: 17 Dec 2014, 20:55:11 UTC - in response to Message 1615361.  

But yes... I sense you don't like the man :) nor his followers :) does that include those that defend him? :) I hope not :) I like hearing diverse views to mine - gives me much more to think about than what I might otherwise do.

What I don't like are people who mindlessly parrot everything the man says, every rhetorical argument ripped straight from his book to the point where I can literally find the page where they took it from. If they put it in a paper for uni I would have to fail them for blatant plagiarism. If you think he has good points though, by all means, defend him. Perhaps you can help me better understand his motives, and make me dislike him a little less :)
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Message 1615471 - Posted: 17 Dec 2014, 21:29:09 UTC - in response to Message 1615417.  

Don't we have to 'Teach' our children Right from Wrong?


Of course! Obligé!

Who taught the first child? Have we just arrived at the unmoved mover again?

Morals and ethics are entirely self discoverable. It does help to have a push however.
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Message 1615528 - Posted: 17 Dec 2014, 23:13:33 UTC - in response to Message 1615471.  

Don't we have to 'Teach' our children Right from Wrong?


Of course! Obligé!

Who taught the first child? Have we just arrived at the unmoved mover again?

Morals and ethics are entirely self discoverable. It does help to have a push however.


A push to where my friend?
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Message 1615544 - Posted: 17 Dec 2014, 23:26:29 UTC - in response to Message 1615528.  

Don't we have to 'Teach' our children Right from Wrong?


Of course! Obligé!

Who taught the first child? Have we just arrived at the unmoved mover again?

Morals and ethics are entirely self discoverable. It does help to have a push however.


A push to where my friend?

Teaching is the push.
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Message 1615552 - Posted: 17 Dec 2014, 23:43:53 UTC

One for you all to think about .

In a multiverse the act of a being , thinking there is a god that made everything is enough to create god .

so which came first the mutiverse or did god make the multiverse .

All possibility's are true in a multiverse as the hadron collider has shown you can make something out of nothing so if man can do it god must be able to.

There are limits to what he can do as even the good book tells us that .

There is a clue in the Bible about this .

When Mary Magdalene talk'd to Jesus the day he rose up from the grave he said he could not take her with him to heaven and there are some thing that god can not do and that is one of them . Take a living person to heaven . You have to die first

A multiverse is the answer to why we are here god does not reside in our verse and seeing as there is anything up to 19 dimensions , i would say he lives in the 9th one as Newton figured out . For every action there is a opposite reaction . 9 good verses and 9 bad one's with 1 that would fit the description of the Black lake the place where nothing exist not even your sole .

As for psychopath's the church does harbor them after all they don't think there is such thing as psychopath's there all taken over buy DEMON's and need to be excised

Do what the book tells you to do read it , and listen to no body else but your own mind not the priests .
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Message 1615555 - Posted: 17 Dec 2014, 23:47:54 UTC - in response to Message 1615552.  

Chicken & Egg Syndrome again...

Which came 1st? God or the Universe?
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Message 1615564 - Posted: 17 Dec 2014, 23:59:23 UTC

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Message 1615578 - Posted: 18 Dec 2014, 0:22:00 UTC - in response to Message 1615555.  

Chicken & Egg Syndrome again...

Which came 1st? God or the Universe?

That assumes a rather linear concept of time :)
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Message 1616245 - Posted: 19 Dec 2014, 11:59:03 UTC - in response to Message 1616066.  
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Even, with your implied non-linearity of time, God might be a bit
miffed at the underlying assumption that time is a constraint he
is limited by.

That assumes a God based on the Abrahamic monotheistic omnipotent version. Perhaps its a pantheon of Gods who are perhaps limited in their abilities.

You are of course right that our conceptualization of God is limited to our own limited understanding of reality.
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Message 1616261 - Posted: 19 Dec 2014, 13:15:24 UTC - in response to Message 1615578.  

That assumes a rather linear concept of time :)


You mite whant to raed the whole post and not selected parts .

19 dimensions so if god lives in the 9th then time may not be what we think it is in that dimention .
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Message 1616297 - Posted: 19 Dec 2014, 15:37:36 UTC

You are of course right that our conceptualization of God is limited to our own limited understanding of reality.


So let me get this correct. The horizon is the place where the earth curves away from my ability to see it, right?
Sounds like the top of a hill to me.



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Message 1616308 - Posted: 19 Dec 2014, 15:53:31 UTC - in response to Message 1616305.  

Does believing, or not believing in a God, makes a person good or bad?


Yes!



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Message 1616319 - Posted: 19 Dec 2014, 16:13:45 UTC

I say no the beleif in god doesn't make a bad man good your either good or bad and god doesn't make a differance
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Message 1616321 - Posted: 19 Dec 2014, 16:16:24 UTC - in response to Message 1616319.  

I say no the beleif in god doesn't make a bad man good your either good or bad and god doesn't make a difference


Yes!


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Message 1616326 - Posted: 19 Dec 2014, 16:38:13 UTC - in response to Message 1616305.  

If you wish to believe in a God, and are a good person: Who cares about your Belief?

If you don't believe in a God, and are a good person: Who cares about your Non-Belief?

Does believing, or not believing in a God, makes a person good or bad?

Once again we agree :)
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Message 1616333 - Posted: 19 Dec 2014, 17:03:04 UTC - in response to Message 1616308.  
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Does believing, or not believing in a God, makes a person good or bad?


Yes!


ROFL, I wouldn't rely on judging of such person who defines good and evil via non-comprehensible(at best) entity :D
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