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Message 1610122 - Posted: 7 Dec 2014, 0:52:36 UTC

Murder is the result.

http://www.couriermail.com.au/news/queensland/horace-lorenzo-jones-guilty-of-his-mothers-murder-after-years-of-abuse/story-fnn8dlfs-1227147095115

“I’m not saying what Horace did was right. But we needed help and we didn’t get it.”

Horace, Matilda and their three-year-old brother Angus grew up in Gladstone in a household plagued by domestic violence. Matilda said their mother had often hit them, attacked them with weapons and threatened their little brother.

She said their cries for help were often ignored and many people had turned a blind eye to the violence.

“When I was young, only about four or five, she cooked a pumpkin soup,” Matilda said. “I was sick and I’d vomited into the soup. She was very insistent that I finish it and made me sit there until I had – even though it had vomit in it.

“Horace and I had been in and out of foster care but they kept giving us back to her, saying there’s nothing wrong with her.

“When they did ask us questions, she would be in the room.


There have been far to many of these cases happening of late. :-(
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Message 1624570 - Posted: 6 Jan 2015, 23:32:54 UTC - in response to Message 1610122.  

There have been far to many of these cases happening of late. :-(


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Message 1624941 - Posted: 7 Jan 2015, 16:45:44 UTC - in response to Message 1610122.  
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There have been far to many of these cases happening of late. :-(

According to Scandinavian criminologists the number of violent crime has not increased for at least 50 years. However the violence is more violent now...
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Message 1625582 - Posted: 8 Jan 2015, 22:48:31 UTC - in response to Message 1624981.  

Yes Clyde in a way it is correct . You can't kill as many people with a knife as you can with a gun . Go into Maccas with a knife and your likely to get attacked by the customers but do the same thing with a gun and a lot of people will die .

You can't stop people killing but you can lesson the damage

Guns make it just to easy , you will think twice if you have to use a knife but not so much if you have a gun .
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Message 1625597 - Posted: 8 Jan 2015, 23:37:19 UTC - in response to Message 1625582.  

Guns make it just to easy , you will think twice if you have to use a knife but not so much if you have a gun .
Where does a pressure cooker with ball bearings rate on this scale?
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Message 1625598 - Posted: 8 Jan 2015, 23:48:24 UTC - in response to Message 1625597.  

Guns make it just to easy , you will think twice if you have to use a knife but not so much if you have a gun .
Where does a pressure cooker with ball bearings rate on this scale?

A bomb it is.
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Message 1625625 - Posted: 9 Jan 2015, 2:05:21 UTC - in response to Message 1625598.  

Guns make it just to easy , you will think twice if you have to use a knife but not so much if you have a gun .
Where does a pressure cooker with ball bearings rate on this scale?

A bomb it is.

A gun is a bomb, black powder, with a device, the barrel, to shape the explosion and one ball bearing, the slug.
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Message 1625626 - Posted: 9 Jan 2015, 2:17:48 UTC - in response to Message 1625625.  

A gun is a bomb, black powder, with a device, the barrel, to shape the explosion and one ball bearing, the slug.

Gary that's a stretch.
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Message 1625754 - Posted: 9 Jan 2015, 10:43:57 UTC

Now there is a idea Ban the sale and making of gun powder your a Genius Gary no pressure cooker bombs or bullets possible and guns would be useless
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Message 1625757 - Posted: 9 Jan 2015, 11:05:16 UTC

Give me some iodine-tablets (sold for purifying water) and some ammonia-based oven cleaner and i could make you an explosive compound more than powerful enough to kill.

I could rustle up all sorts of explosives with the contents of a decent hardware store.

A little knowledge can be a dangerous thing. Who needs gunpowder?
Life on earth is the global equivalent of not storing things in the fridge.
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Message 1625810 - Posted: 9 Jan 2015, 14:48:53 UTC - in response to Message 1625757.  

Give me some iodine-tablets (sold for purifying water) and some ammonia-based oven cleaner and i could make you an explosive compound more than powerful enough to kill.

I could rustle up all sorts of explosives with the contents of a decent hardware store.

A little knowledge can be a dangerous thing. Who needs gunpowder?

So true. And the knowledge is out there.
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Message 1625825 - Posted: 9 Jan 2015, 15:32:07 UTC - in response to Message 1625810.  

So true. And the knowledge is out there.

I've read that, most of it is nonsense.
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Message 1625826 - Posted: 9 Jan 2015, 15:37:11 UTC - in response to Message 1625825.  

So true. And the knowledge is out there.

I've read that, most of it is nonsense.


Or they miss out certain "steps" in that book . Ive seen it and they don't publish the full way of doing things
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Message 1625829 - Posted: 9 Jan 2015, 15:43:58 UTC - in response to Message 1625826.  

So true. And the knowledge is out there.

I've read that, most of it is nonsense.


Or they miss out certain "steps" in that book . Ive seen it and they don't publish the full way of doing things

Anyone trying the recipes on any largish scale is going to have a bad time.
Let's call it natural selection. :)
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Message 1625831 - Posted: 9 Jan 2015, 15:56:21 UTC - in response to Message 1625829.  

So true. And the knowledge is out there.

I've read that, most of it is nonsense.


Or they miss out certain "steps" in that book . Ive seen it and they don't publish the full way of doing things

Anyone trying the recipes on any largish scale is going to have a bad time.
Let's call it natural selection. :)


I think your right there Simomator but il bet someone has tried it and found out the hard way ;-) , I've known how to do certain things and I found out a long time before them type of books or the internet was around :-)
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Message 1625836 - Posted: 9 Jan 2015, 16:24:51 UTC

Mark do know what hes talking about hes a icle nutter hehe ;-)
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Message 1626062 - Posted: 10 Jan 2015, 10:11:52 UTC - in response to Message 1625757.  

Give me some iodine-tablets (sold for purifying water) and some ammonia-based oven cleaner and i could make you an explosive compound more than powerful enough to kill.

I could rustle up all sorts of explosives with the contents of a decent hardware store.

A little knowledge can be a dangerous thing. Who needs gunpowder?

How about some diesel fuel and fertilizer. What do they call it? Ampho?
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Message 1626081 - Posted: 10 Jan 2015, 11:23:24 UTC - in response to Message 1626062.  

Give me some iodine-tablets (sold for purifying water) and some ammonia-based oven cleaner and i could make you an explosive compound more than powerful enough to kill.

I could rustle up all sorts of explosives with the contents of a decent hardware store.

A little knowledge can be a dangerous thing. Who needs gunpowder?

How about some diesel fuel and fertilizer. What do they call it? Ampho?


Yea and you can add something else that makes the reaction go even better but I aint telling you or what type of fertilizer , don't think you could buy it from a garden centre in Britain
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Message 1626083 - Posted: 10 Jan 2015, 11:33:32 UTC - in response to Message 1626081.  

Give me some iodine-tablets (sold for purifying water) and some ammonia-based oven cleaner and i could make you an explosive compound more than powerful enough to kill.

I could rustle up all sorts of explosives with the contents of a decent hardware store.

A little knowledge can be a dangerous thing. Who needs gunpowder?

How about some diesel fuel and fertilizer. What do they call it? Ampho?


Yea and you can add something else that makes the reaction go even better but I aint telling you or what type of fertilizer , don't think you could buy it from a garden centre in Britain

I think they do sell that very common fertilizer in Britain.
At least in Scandinavia and that Norwegian terrorist Breivik did that.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anders_Behring_Breivik
As he admits in his manifesto he used the company as a cover to legally obtain large amounts of artificial fertiliser and other chemicals for the manufacturing of explosives. A farming supplier sold Breivik's company six tonnes of fertiliser in May. The newspaper Verdens Gang reported that after Breivik bought a small quantity of an explosive primer from an online shop in Poland, his name was among 60 passed to the Police Security Service (PST) by Norwegian Customs as having used the store to buy products. Speaking to the newspaper, Jon Fitje of PST said the information they found gave no indication of anything suspicious.
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Message 1626085 - Posted: 10 Jan 2015, 11:42:02 UTC - in response to Message 1626083.  

Yea you can get the fertilizer over her but a garden centre is were you go to get a rose bush on a sunday with your family , farming suppliers sort out the farms lot bigger scale than a back garden and theres strict controls placed on certain chemicals by the government for obvious reasons ( I.R.A for a example)
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