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Message 1721029 - Posted: 1 Sep 2015, 22:06:03 UTC

http://ktla.com/2015/09/01/officer-critically-wounded-dog-killed-after-georgia-police-respond-to-wrong-house/
It started with police going to the wrong house. It ended with a homeowner, an officer and a dog shot.
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So three officers went to a house that matched that description near the same intersection, Alexander said. He said they went to the back of a home where they thought a burglary might be occurring.
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“Shortly after that, within a matter of moments, gunfire took place,” he said. “During this gunfire, a dog was shot and killed inside a residence.”

The homeowner and a DeKalb police officer were both shot in the leg.

“The officer is critical. He lost a lot of blood,” Alexander said. “The homeowner, who was struck in the leg, is also at the hospital as well.”

The police chief said details about how the shooting broke out are under investigation. He said he could not confirm whether one or multiple officers fired shots.

Can't even confirm if anyone but the police even had guns .....
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Message 1721043 - Posted: 1 Sep 2015, 22:32:02 UTC - in response to Message 1721026.  

http://abc7.com/news/3-sheriffs-deputies-charged-for-horseback-chase-beating/965580/
SAN BERNARDINO, Calif. (KABC) --
Three San Bernardino County sheriff's deputies have been charged for the horseback chase beating in April.

The deputies -- Nicholas Downey of Victor Valley, Michael Phelps of Twin Peaks and Charles Foster of Hesperia -- were each charged with one count of assault by a public officer.

I saw that news on a video clip some months ago.
It was shot from a helicopter and it was clearly police men using excessive force.
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Message 1721049 - Posted: 1 Sep 2015, 22:53:05 UTC - in response to Message 1721043.  

http://abc7.com/news/3-sheriffs-deputies-charged-for-horseback-chase-beating/965580/
SAN BERNARDINO, Calif. (KABC) --
Three San Bernardino County sheriff's deputies have been charged for the horseback chase beating in April.

The deputies -- Nicholas Downey of Victor Valley, Michael Phelps of Twin Peaks and Charles Foster of Hesperia -- were each charged with one count of assault by a public officer.

I saw that news on a video clip some months ago.
It was shot from a helicopter and it was clearly police men using excessive force.

Yes. Now they are indicted. But they are still cops. Funny how internal affairs works.
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Message 1721051 - Posted: 1 Sep 2015, 23:01:40 UTC - in response to Message 1721049.  

Funny how internal affairs works.

Here it's called "kåranda".
Something like the US Marines "Semper fi".
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Message 1721085 - Posted: 2 Sep 2015, 2:10:13 UTC - in response to Message 1720964.  

A man shirtless comes running up in front of a house, while two police officers approaching him. A police car is parked next door. Short latter extends the man up both hands. Shots heard fired and the man collapses down.
The scene from the last Friday in a residential area in the outskirts of San Antonio in the US state of Texas is a video that a private person filmed from his position in a car a few hundred meters from the site.
What is happening seems, judging by the video that the two police shoot the man to death. Authorities have confirmed the video's existence and that there is an identified man, a 41 year old, who collapses to the ground. The man is confirmed dead.
http://www.ksat.com/news/ksatcom-exclusive-unedited-video-of-fatal-deputy-involved-shooting


A few observations:

1. The person that took the video sold it to KSAT for $$.

2. KSAT's decision to broadcast & publish online said video, first in an edited version (not including the moment of the gunfire) then the unedited version (including everything) has harmed any possible case against the two officers in question. It has seriously tainted the potential jury pool, and made it a lot harder for the officers in question to receive a fair trial, should one be warranted. Remember, news reports on this case have spread worldwide. I have even seen it on BBC...

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-34122204

3. This video is NOT a complete record of what happened, nor is it close enough to state for certain what exactly happened at the moment the officers shot the guy. What happenedat the site of the original call (across the street) before the video started? What was the man saying right before the shots were fired? Did he have a weapon on him at that time?

4. Remember, this was a domestic violence call the police were responding to. The perp had just carved up a woman's head with a knife. Also, at the time, the woman was holding a baby. The news reports state that it is unknown if the baby was injured or not, which is understandable due to laws in place to protect the identity of minors in news reports.

5. The officers tried to Taser him first. Didn't work. The man was VERY visibly agitated on the video before the officers crossed the street to confront him, again. Did he ditch his weapon in the bushes he was next to, or did he still have it on him, because he WAS armed when the officers arrived.

6. Police officers in Texas are VERY nervous at this time. So far this year, 23 police officers in the USA have been killed by gunfire, 4 of which were targeted BECAUSE they were police officers, including the one a few days ago in Houston, Tx who was killed when the shooter walked up behind him and emptied the entire capacity of the handgun into the officer (14 in the magazine, 1 in the chamber). Not included was another one just yesterday in Abilene, Tx.

Nationwide 23 (24) so far this year, with 4 months to go. Nationwide last year? 9.
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Message 1721100 - Posted: 2 Sep 2015, 2:41:56 UTC - in response to Message 1721085.  

Police officers in Texas are VERY nervous at this time.

Major being nervous is not justification to shoot somebody, the cops are supposed to be professional. You do bring up some good points but they do not address what happened.
The person that took the video sold it to KSAT for $$.

So what the video is what it is.
Since his arms were up when he was shot your other points seem moot to me.
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Message 1721144 - Posted: 2 Sep 2015, 5:09:50 UTC - in response to Message 1721100.  

Police officers in Texas are VERY nervous at this time.

Major being nervous is not justification to shoot somebody, the cops are supposed to be professional. You do bring up some good points but they do not address what happened.
The person that took the video sold it to KSAT for $$.

So what the video is what it is.
Since his arms were up when he was shot your other points seem moot to me.

Very much so. Other cases and other times and other people are not the here and now. Reminds me of the nervous that the cops who dumped 103 rounds into a pickup delivering newspapers in the morning when they hear one land flat side down in a driveway and they were on a protective detail. Cops that are they jumpy belong on a shrinks couch, not armed and on the job.

Oh, there is a second video of the Texas killing.
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Message 1721690 - Posted: 3 Sep 2015, 13:56:55 UTC

http://abc7.com/news/california-data-shows-racial-disparity-in-arrests-deaths/967807/
while the second-leading cause [of deaths] was homicides by law enforcement, at 14 percent

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Message 1721823 - Posted: 3 Sep 2015, 21:17:20 UTC
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Another completely honest cop ...
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2015/09/03/police-cop-fabricated-claim-that-gunman-fired-at-cruiser-before-it-crashed/
MILLIS, Mass. – Police in Massachusetts say an officer fabricated a claim that a gunman fired at his cruiser before it crashed into a tree and caught on fire.

NECN reports (http://bit.ly/1ECSouG) that Millis police Sgt. William Dwyer says the only ballistics evidence recovered at the scene Wednesday were from shots fired by the officer into his own cruiser.

Police said Thursday that they aren't sure if the officer set the car on fire.

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Message 1721855 - Posted: 3 Sep 2015, 22:38:02 UTC

Seems it isn't limited to the streets ...
http://abc7.com/news/3-california-correctional-deputies-arrested-in-san-jose-inmate-death/968508/
SAN JOSE, Calif. --
Sheriff's officials say three California correctional deputies have been arrested on suspicion of murder in the death of an inmate at a county jail.

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Message 1721869 - Posted: 3 Sep 2015, 23:41:04 UTC - in response to Message 1721855.  

All too common.
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Message 1721915 - Posted: 4 Sep 2015, 3:39:40 UTC - in response to Message 1721869.  

All too common.

Yes it is. And now with the internet the public at large is seeing it for the first time and hopefully demanding changes in how police work is done. After all the public is the employer and has the absolute final say.
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Message 1722093 - Posted: 4 Sep 2015, 14:21:35 UTC - in response to Message 1721915.  

After all the public is the employer and has the absolute final say.

In an ideal world yes in this one maybe not so much.
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Message 1722140 - Posted: 4 Sep 2015, 16:14:52 UTC - in response to Message 1722093.  

After all the public is the employer and has the absolute final say.

In an ideal world yes in this one maybe not so much.

So true, with a police union buying a newspaper to be sure they do not report on police misconduct. That action to me means that more that 50% of the members of that union are corrupt criminals. So now we have the foxes guarding the hen house.
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Message 1722452 - Posted: 5 Sep 2015, 4:46:19 UTC

Now on the other coast
http://america.aljazeera.com/articles/2015/9/4/2-nyc-jail-guards-charged-in-beating-of-teen-inmate.html
A New York City jail captain and a correction officer have been charged with assault and other crimes in the beating of a mentally challenged 18-year-old inmate in a Rikers Island supply closet last year.

Capt. Medzid Kolenovic and Officer Jean Destine pleaded not guilty to misdemeanor assault and official misconduct charges, as well as to felony charges that they altered use-of-force documents and falsely claimed workers' compensation after the Dec. 9 assault on Ambirorix Celedonio.

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Message 1722562 - Posted: 5 Sep 2015, 15:53:21 UTC - in response to Message 1722530.  

After all the public is the employer and has the absolute final say.

In an ideal world yes in this one maybe not so much.

So true, with a police union buying a newspaper to be sure they do not report on police misconduct. That action to me means that more that 50% of the members of that union are corrupt criminals. So now we have the foxes guarding the hen house.

Buying an 'Old Fashioned' Newspaper, does what????

Gary....

How many newspapers are there?

How many Internet News sources are there?

Your ascertain is...

Very correct. And it wasn't just one newspaper but a chain. As you should know by now there are very few publishers left.
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Message 1722869 - Posted: 6 Sep 2015, 18:36:19 UTC - in response to Message 1721051.  

Funny how internal affairs works.

Here it's called "kåranda".
Something like the US Marines "Semper fi".

"Semper fi" is a John Wayne line from a movie.

Semper Fidelis is the Marine Corps motto - "Always Faithful"

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Message 1723571 - Posted: 8 Sep 2015, 15:33:30 UTC

5 facts exposing the media’s lies about police shootings

I thought this was worth posting after Brutus' claim over in the American Election thread that there is a plague of police executions. When I read his claim it was obvious there was something wrong with his sources.

The questions is, why are people being told this distorted lie and what is the agenda behind it?
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Message 1723574 - Posted: 8 Sep 2015, 15:39:35 UTC - in response to Message 1723571.  

The questions is, why are people being told this distorted lie and what is the agenda behind it?

I suspect Guy/Brutus is getting his "facts" from Stormfront or their allies.
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Message 1723867 - Posted: 9 Sep 2015, 15:03:59 UTC - in response to Message 1723729.  

BOTH sides have an agenda.

One side says Police are always correct. These people are usually on The Right.

The other side speaks, most disgustedly and brainlessly, of Police as a monolithic entity. These people are usually on The Left.

No one can have an Intelligent Discussion with these idiots. Regarding the Real Problems and Intelligent Solutions.

That is the real tragedy of our present civilization.

Thankfully we have a straight-down-the-middle wise-old-old-man like yourself, CLUDE, with absolutely no Agenda, calling the Left the,
disgusting, brainless, rabble that they really are. What more needs to be said. Discussion over.
rotflmao!

A wise man once said that the middle of the road is a stupid place to walk.
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