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Message 1693297 - Posted: 18 Jun 2015, 22:35:34 UTC - in response to Message 1693275.  
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And, the very sad fact is that all of us regardless of where we live and how we were/are brought up, we all have African blood running through our veins, regardless how small the amount in us. I say this by pointing to the fact that the species Homo-Sapiens originated in Africa. Fairer skin tones evolved as people moved to cooler climates and did not need the darker hues to protect them from the ravages of the sun.
So I say welcome to the club folks!

The sad fact is that we all pale persons originated from Africa are not fit to be in the sun.
Even if we still want to go to places in the sun.
There are lot of sunny places in Africa, Caribbea, Thailand, Spain... :)
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Message 1693298 - Posted: 18 Jun 2015, 22:35:56 UTC - in response to Message 1693193.  

As with Superiority people. Nazi/KKK/Progressives types. The 'ending' if they get power, is the same.

Doesn't matter if one group lies to itself, regarding their 'motivation'.

However, the structure they build upon their 'Superior' Foundation is different.

Progressives, The Left and Marxists, promote their agenda, this way:

#1 - We will Educate 'The Masses' actions and thinking. When that doesn't work -

#2 - We will Regulate 'The Masses' actions and thinking. When that doesn't work -

#3 - We will Criminalize 'The Masses' actions and thinking. When that doesn't work -

#4 - We will Eliminate them.

The KKK, The Right and The Nazi's, dispense with #1 and 2, and move immediately to #3.

Again you are calling me a would be murderer. According to you the only reason I haven't killed millions of people yet is because I don't have that type of power. Your argument is kinda like the argument some Christian fundamentalist make, who claim that without God people would just rape and murder each other all day long. People who think that they only reason they don't do that is the fear for divine retribution. I've always found that such arguments say more about the people that are making it than the people they are trying to use it against.

Also, it feels like an argument about extremism. Yeah, movements on the left and right have killed millions of people. But that was because they were extremists versions of left wing or right wing ideology, not because they were left wing or right wing ideologies. Everything that has turned to extremism is dangerous, doesn't matter what it is. But its a mistake to claim that just because something has the potential to evolve into extremism, it makes everyone who believes or follows that thing is therefor automatically an extremists who is just moments away from setting up death camps.

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I do acknowledge your inability to Think out of your Intellectually Cloistered Universe. One day, you may want to expand your understandings of certain 'Movements'.

Will you? Possibly not.

And there we go again, dismissing the opponent as 'inferior' because they don't think like you. Are you sure you are not secretly a right wing bigot yourself? Because according to you, thinking of others as inferior is the foundation of their thinking.
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Message 1693379 - Posted: 19 Jun 2015, 3:05:14 UTC - in response to Message 1693298.  

As with Superiority people. Nazi/KKK/Progressives types. The 'ending' if they get power, is the same.

Doesn't matter if one group lies to itself, regarding their 'motivation'.

However, the structure they build upon their 'Superior' Foundation is different.

Progressives, The Left and Marxists, promote their agenda, this way:

#1 - We will Educate 'The Masses' actions and thinking. When that doesn't work -

#2 - We will Regulate 'The Masses' actions and thinking. When that doesn't work -

#3 - We will Criminalize 'The Masses' actions and thinking. When that doesn't work -

#4 - We will Eliminate them.

The KKK, The Right and The Nazi's, dispense with #1 and 2, and move immediately to #3.

Again you are calling me a would be murderer. According to you the only reason I haven't killed millions of people yet is because I don't have that type of power. Your argument is kinda like the argument some Christian fundamentalist make, who claim that without God people would just rape and murder each other all day long. People who think that they only reason they don't do that is the fear for divine retribution. I've always found that such arguments say more about the people that are making it than the people they are trying to use it against.

Also, it feels like an argument about extremism. Yeah, movements on the left and right have killed millions of people. But that was because they were extremists versions of left wing or right wing ideology, not because they were left wing or right wing ideologies. Everything that has turned to extremism is dangerous, doesn't matter what it is. But its a mistake to claim that just because something has the potential to evolve into extremism, it makes everyone who believes or follows that thing is therefor automatically an extremists who is just moments away from setting up death camps.

Мишель...

I do acknowledge your inability to Think out of your Intellectually Cloistered Universe. One day, you may want to expand your understandings of certain 'Movements'.

Will you? Possibly not.

And there we go again, dismissing the opponent as 'inferior' because they don't think like you. Are you sure you are not secretly a right wing bigot yourself? Because according to you, thinking of others as inferior is the foundation of their thinking.


Huh? The un-named poster isn't a left-wing extremist?!?
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Message 1693409 - Posted: 19 Jun 2015, 4:24:57 UTC - in response to Message 1693275.  

And, the very sad fact is that all of us regardless of where we live and how we were/are brought up, we all have African blood running through our veins, regardless how small the amount in us. I say this by pointing to the fact that the species Homo-Sapiens originated in Africa. Fairer skin tones evolved as people moved to cooler climates and did not need the darker hues to protect them from the ravages of the sun.

So I say welcome to the club folks!

Why would having African blood be a sad thing? Unless, of course, you were a racist and trying to deny your ancestry. For all I know I may have a second helping. Being as my relatives are from France, and given that the Moors occupied parts of France for some time, I can't rule such a thing out, absent a DNA test. It doesn't change who I am.
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Message 1693411 - Posted: 19 Jun 2015, 4:26:33 UTC - in response to Message 1693379.  

Huh? The un-named poster isn't a left-wing extremist?!?

Extremist yes, and that is all that actually matters, isn't it?
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Message 1693526 - Posted: 19 Jun 2015, 12:33:57 UTC - in response to Message 1693409.  

And, the very sad fact is that all of us regardless of where we live and how we were/are brought up, we all have African blood running through our veins, regardless how small the amount in us. I say this by pointing to the fact that the species Homo-Sapiens originated in Africa. Fairer skin tones evolved as people moved to cooler climates and did not need the darker hues to protect them from the ravages of the sun.

So I say welcome to the club folks!

Why would having African blood be a sad thing? Unless, of course, you were a racist and trying to deny your ancestry. For all I know I may have a second helping. Being as my relatives are from France, and given that the Moors occupied parts of France for some time, I can't rule such a thing out, absent a DNA test. It doesn't change who I am.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z6E98ZRaU1s


First of all, I'm extremely proud of my African blood, more so because that is whom I am, being African-American. But I think you missed the point, which I also believe that most others also do. The pointing being regardless of what race one associates him/her self with, we are all African. It's just that all other races conveniently forgotten this simple fact. Remember, race is simply a social construct to identify the differences between different and divergent people. Without this construct, we are all the same people.


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Message 1693577 - Posted: 19 Jun 2015, 14:52:19 UTC - in response to Message 1693562.  
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And, the very sad fact is that all of us regardless of where we live and how we were/are brought up, we all have African blood running through our veins, regardless how small the amount in us. I say this by pointing to the fact that the species Homo-Sapiens originated in Africa. Fairer skin tones evolved as people moved to cooler climates and did not need the darker hues to protect them from the ravages of the sun.
So I say welcome to the club folks!

As I posted, in the past:
Traced my Maternal DNA.
The Map showed the following, with 'lines and circles' (present day Map):
Sweden, down to Poland, Greece Area, Syria Area, Egypt, Somalia.
Cliff...
We may share some of the same Blood.
Welcome to The Family.

I am also in that family.
Lucy comes to mind:)
And Jaqueline and Susanne.
Way to go Svante Pääbo.
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Arf Arf says our black dog Tosca:)
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Message 1693617 - Posted: 19 Jun 2015, 18:01:51 UTC - in response to Message 1693526.  

First of all, I'm extremely proud of my African blood, more so because that is whom I am, being African-American. But I think you missed the point, which I also believe that most others also do. The pointing being regardless of what race one associates him/her self with, we are all African. It's just that all other races conveniently forgotten this simple fact. Remember, race is simply a social construct to identify the differences between different and divergent people. Without this construct, we are all the same people.

Yes, we are the same people, human. However we don't all share the same culture. In the context of this thread is it culture or DNA that is this "racist" we loathe? Or some mixture of both culture and DNA say from 90/10 to 10/90?

I'm aware of a study where skin color was found to be a factor in apparently racist actions. Interestingly that study did not find zero racist actions in the lightest shade. So there is no single cause. Two problems will need two solutions, which are likely different. I don't rule out that there may be more than two causes, with each additional cause needing its own solution.

I have a feeling that there are at least four causes wrapped up in it.
1) Poverty
2) Culture
3) Skin color
4) Education

Poverty seems to be somewhat intractable, with its own long list of causes.
Culture, you can't ask the African to assume White culture any more than you can ask the White people to assume African culture.
Skin Color, can't ask people to change it, but we can make advertisers and entertainment to treat all tones equally.
Education is a hard issue itself with several causes. Far too many think that separate but equal is equal.

Unfortunately this problem that is thousands of years old, isn't going to be cured in a short time, it will take several generations to reduce it. Unfortunately I don't see it ever getting to zero as long as humans have the ability to classify.
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Message 1693658 - Posted: 19 Jun 2015, 20:20:17 UTC

"When people don't know the history of racist violence, every act is a one-time-thing. The 'system' in systemic racism becomes invisible." - Ashley C. Ford
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Message 1693662 - Posted: 19 Jun 2015, 20:52:07 UTC

...we are all African. It's just that all other races conveniently forgotten this simple fact.


NOPE.

Long Ago, Most Populations in AfriKa were Wiped Out.

Ensuing Years, AfriKa was Populated by Humans from Asia(China). These Asians and 'Chinese' at the start of this Journey 'Home', were Not Afrikan any more. When 'they' left Afrika Hundreds and Hundreds of thousands of Years before, 'they' Certainly were. 'They' became Asian as The Many Years Passed. As 'We', US Whites, became, ah, let's See, European.

As Tens of Thousands of Years Passed, these Once Afrikan turned Asians, became 'Afrikan' again, once back in their 'Homeland'.

You Know, Black People or Very Brown.

Maybe 'Out of Afrika' makes Sense to Some, but 'Into Afrika' 'is' The Real Simple 'Fact'.

Some Bad Thing Happened, ya see. Afrika Wiped Out. Asia, Europe kept Most of Their Peoples. Asians moved In to Afrika to Re-Populate. Afrika was 'Asian'(White Like} for A Long While, until 'Conditions'(Evolution, Culture and Such), 'turned' them Back, to Black. So to Speak.

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Message 1693663 - Posted: 19 Jun 2015, 21:00:37 UTC - in response to Message 1693658.  

"When people don't know the history of racist violence, every act is a one-time-thing. The 'system' in systemic racism becomes invisible." - Ashley C. Ford

So, Dylan Roof was part of the 'system.' Can you explain how the 'system' gave him the order or permission to do his act?
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Message 1693747 - Posted: 20 Jun 2015, 4:09:25 UTC

I'm having Trouble with a Disconnect.

White Cop Kills ONE Black Person, and Black Communities Erupt in Protests and Riots, the Whole Time chanting Death to da Copper and Coppers En Masse. Immediately. Before Any Evidence 'is' 'Known'. Then, Cop gets 'Away' with 'it', because 'Evidence' shows 'Justification'. And Protests, Riots, and Chants Against All Coppers 'is' Ratcheted to HIgher Levels.

However, White Man Kills Nine Blacks, and Calm Envelopes Communities and Forgiveness 'Is' Pervasive. Whites Breathe Sighs of Relief and Every One Hugs, Prays. Fellowship Abounds.

W T F?

I stayed at Charleston Air Force Base for a week in '69, before Catching MAC Flight to Mid East. I remember Most, how da C5A
seems to 'Float' in Air as 'it' Takes off and lands. Also remember Playing Golf. Otherwise, Nuttin' else. Well, first flight on
C-141.

'Course, being so much younger and Not Givin' a Shat 'bout All Dat 'Stuff' goin' on In Da Vrold. You Know. Clueless.

Anyways, Being A Brainiac Now, I Don't Get Da Disconnect.

Well, I Do, but Stating 'it' would be...

too Honest.

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Message 1697462 - Posted: 1 Jul 2015, 22:01:14 UTC

When register to vote in the US you have to state your race.
Why?
One for instance with Scandinavian heritage and is race number 5.
Can anybody explain US catagories of human race?
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Message 1697470 - Posted: 1 Jul 2015, 22:22:04 UTC - in response to Message 1697462.  

When register to vote in the US you have to state your race.
Why?
One for instance with Scandinavian heritage and is race number 5.
Can anybody explain US catagories of human race?

You must be mistaken, it is not a REQUIREMENT to state your race. Decline to state is an acceptable answer.
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Message 1697479 - Posted: 1 Jul 2015, 22:43:46 UTC - in response to Message 1697470.  
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When register to vote in the US you have to state your race.
Why?
One for instance with Scandinavian heritage and is race number 5.
Can anybody explain US catagories of human race?

You must be mistaken, it is not a REQUIREMENT to state your race. Decline to state is an acceptable answer.

Don't Think so.
Registered Voters in the State of Florida, U.S.A. as of 31 March 2015.
http://flvoters.com/
Alanna S. Torres. She is listed as Multi-racial.
What is Multi-racial?
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Message 1697603 - Posted: 2 Jul 2015, 4:55:22 UTC - in response to Message 1697479.  

When register to vote in the US you have to state your race.
Why?
One for instance with Scandinavian heritage and is race number 5.
Can anybody explain US catagories of human race?

You must be mistaken, it is not a REQUIREMENT to state your race. Decline to state is an acceptable answer.

Don't Think so.

Think again https://voter-registration-fl.connect.clarityelections.com/connect/site/publicpages/GenericForm.jsp?gid=1 wrote:
Race/Ethnicity: It is optional to list your race or ethnicity.

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Message 1697715 - Posted: 2 Jul 2015, 13:21:29 UTC - in response to Message 1697603.  

When register to vote in the US you have to state your race.
Why?
One for instance with Scandinavian heritage and is race number 5.
Can anybody explain US catagories of human race?

You must be mistaken, it is not a REQUIREMENT to state your race. Decline to state is an acceptable answer.

Don't Think so.

Think again https://voter-registration-fl.connect.clarityelections.com/connect/site/publicpages/GenericForm.jsp?gid=1 wrote:
Race/Ethnicity: It is optional to list your race or ethnicity.

I see:)
Race/Ethnicity (Check only one)
1 American Indian/Alaskan Native
2 Asian/Pacific Islander
3 Black, not of Hispanic Origin
4 Hispanic
5 White, not of Hispanic Origin
6 Multi-racial
7 Other:

The option 'Other'? Am I a Scandinavian? Am my GF a Lapp/Same?

Whatever. Even if it's optional I think Race/Ethnicity has nothing to do with elections. On the contrary.
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Go Left and You Can't Go Wrong.

Fill Up On Cake. Da FOoD of Liberty and Justice fO All.

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Message 1699342 - Posted: 7 Jul 2015, 21:16:39 UTC

The leader of a local wing of the nationalist Sweden Democrat party has caused a controversy after he claimed that halal meat has magical powers that turns people into Muslims.
http://www.thelocal.se/20150707/you-become-a-muslim-if-you-eat-halal-meat
The nationalist Sweden Democrat party is like UKIP and Front National and even have seats in the Europian Parlaiment.
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