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janneseti Send message Joined: 14 Oct 09 Posts: 14106 Credit: 655,366 RAC: 0 |
When you receive a direct order, from a police officer or someone else in authority, the best thing to do for your OWN safety is to comply as you are required to do by law. Any other action is resistance or failure to comply. Lucky me not living in the USA! I applied for this some months ago. Green Card Program USA - Live and Work in the USA Green Card Program USA -Signup to the Official US DV Program immigration and naturalization program now I was approved. But unfortunately I cannot go because my GF is so ill that we cannot go. |
Sarge Send message Joined: 25 Aug 99 Posts: 12273 Credit: 8,569,109 RAC: 79 |
Black children are not even safe from police violence at a pool party You need to watch again. Just microseconds before, 2 black females rushed up from the other side. |
Sarge Send message Joined: 25 Aug 99 Posts: 12273 Credit: 8,569,109 RAC: 79 |
Isn't obvious that there are two police officers on the scene? You need to watch again. Two other police officers ran up within 2 to 3 seconds to de-escalate Officer #1. Hence, officer count >= 3. |
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Gary Charpentier Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 30640 Credit: 53,134,872 RAC: 32 |
Black children are not even safe from police violence at a pool party You all need to listen again. She is sitting on the ground and the cop starts screaming get down. How much farther can you get down when you are sitting, without being told what he wants? It isn't until after he assaults her that he says face down. I hope that isn't the training he got at the police academy, because it looks more like the training he got at the klavern. At least he was smart enough to resign to save the taxpayers the money of having the hearings to fire him. Now the question is will he have the balls to apologize and take his lumps as he dished them out? |
janneseti Send message Joined: 14 Oct 09 Posts: 14106 Credit: 655,366 RAC: 0 |
Isn't obvious that there are two police officers on the scene? Thats right. Here is a pic of the two other police officers. http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/jun/08/mckinney-texas-black-children-pool-violence#img-1 To me it looks like Officer #1 not seen on the pic are only chasing black people... |
Sarge Send message Joined: 25 Aug 99 Posts: 12273 Credit: 8,569,109 RAC: 79 |
Мишель, we have had these differences before. You cannot allow yourself to consider another viewpoint. If Michel has pointed to where that is in the video, please do so again. In the meantime, I wonder (true withholding of judgment), were the police already there? I'm sure your sentiment is shared by the 47 murder victims in Baltimore in the last 30 days and their families(sarcasm). No cops=no crime(more sarcasm). Oh and 45 of those murdered were black. Where's Al Sharpton? Why is there no outcry for justice for them? [edit source cited] http://data.baltimoresun.com/bing-maps/homicides/index.php?range=30&district=all&zipcode=all&age=all&gender=all&race=all&cause=all&article=all&show_results=Show+results You are right. You are absolutely right. They never ever to speak out about Black crime. Never. I applaud your ability to prove a negative and so effectively. |
JaundicedEye Send message Joined: 14 Mar 12 Posts: 5375 Credit: 30,870,693 RAC: 1 |
Everyone(myself included) are speculating and judging based on a video clip. We were not there. There are conflicting statements regarding what did or did not occur. Also please remember what I said in my original post..... I AGREE the officer used excessive physical force on the young lady to effect compliance with his orders....of that there is no question. You need to watch again. Two other police officers ran up within 2 to 3 seconds to de-escalate Officer #1. Hence, officer count >= 3.My observation is they ran up to assist Officer #1 and then they pursued the two young men who circled around Officer #1 prompting him to pull his gun. Again, he did not(to his credit) fire the weapon. It is becoming a moot point as Officer #1 resigned today. If he was a bad apple, he is gone. If his acts are judged to be excessive, he will be called to account. We have got to stop focusing on racial division when the focus should be on stopping hundreds of young black men dying each year at each others hand in cities across America. "Sour Grapes make a bitter Whine." <(0)> |
Мишель Send message Joined: 26 Nov 13 Posts: 3073 Credit: 87,868 RAC: 0 |
Мишель, we have had these differences before. You cannot allow yourself to consider another viewpoint. I can and I do. But considering another viewpoint does not mean I will accept that viewpoint as better or valid. Why didn't the offended parties call the police on her? Perhaps they felt it was wiser not to push things further? That's the problem with society today, you judge the world on a 30 second video and not the entire situation and the 15 minutes preceding the video. Knee jerk reactions only lead to situations like Baltimore and Ferguson. Except I'm not basing this on a 30 second video, I'm basing this on a 7 minute video. I'm getting the feeling that the only person who is having knee jerk reactions based on incomplete information is you. I mean, you didn't know the true length of the video, you didn't know about the fact that it was a white lady who started to fight, you didn't know that those teens were all there on the invitation of someone and had been granted access to be there. |
Sarge Send message Joined: 25 Aug 99 Posts: 12273 Credit: 8,569,109 RAC: 79 |
Actually, there exist 14-15 minutes long versions. Michel, please post a link and state the time that proves that (1) they were invited and (2) a white woman started the fight. I have heard the first reported, but that still doesn't make it true. (Sorry I couldn't be more ideological for my hataz!) |
JaundicedEye Send message Joined: 14 Mar 12 Posts: 5375 Credit: 30,870,693 RAC: 1 |
As I said, there are conflicting stories as always about causes and motivations for the incident. Here is the account of the young man who took the video and also here is one BLACK resident of the community's account: http://www.cnn.com/2015/06/09/us/mckinney-texas-pool-party-video/index.html Reading that CNN story should answer Sarge's questions about the fight and the invitations. Please read the entire article before reacting. There are obviously even more than two sides to the story. Yes the officer was out of line and emotionally charged. Was that racist? If so, he's gone. Move on. There are more important issues facing black youth and American youth in general. you didn't know that those teens were all there on the invitation of someone and had been granted access to be there....and you didn't know they were not allowed there under the homeowner association rules. So we are both making statements without complete knowledge which is the point I've already made. Context, my friend, context. Soundbites, 7 minute, 14-15 minute videos are snapshots in time and don't depict the entire picture. I'm just saying that every time blame is painted on ALL police officers due to the actions of one or two overwrought or out of control officers, the rest of the police become less able(or less willing) to do their job. These men and women are the ones who get to pick up the pieces after gang shootings, riots, rapes, murders, child molestations, beatings, and all the rest of the worst aspects of humanity. They are human, they make mistakes, they become distraught and afraid just like me and you. But unlike me and you they have to deal with the worst of mankind every day and then repeat that every day of their working lives. They deserve more respect than they are given by most. "Sour Grapes make a bitter Whine." <(0)> |
Es99 Send message Joined: 23 Aug 05 Posts: 10874 Credit: 350,402 RAC: 0 |
I'm still not understanding how any of that justifies beating up and scaring children and waving guns at them. Reality Internet Personality |
Es99 Send message Joined: 23 Aug 05 Posts: 10874 Credit: 350,402 RAC: 0 |
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Sarge Send message Joined: 25 Aug 99 Posts: 12273 Credit: 8,569,109 RAC: 79 |
you didn't know that those teens were all there on the invitation of someone and had been granted access to be there....and you didn't know they were not allowed there under the homeowner association rules. So we are both making statements without complete knowledge which is the point I've already made. Were the rules of the homeowner association clearly posted by the pool so that the teens would know those rules trumped the invitation? They deserve more respect than they are given by most. This country was formed by dissent. We have the right to point out the errors of the few. We do not have to accept our peers over-generalizing and making it sound like we are against all police officers. Many people of many occupations deserve far more respect than given by most. |
janneseti Send message Joined: 14 Oct 09 Posts: 14106 Credit: 655,366 RAC: 0 |
As I said, there are conflicting stories as always about causes and motivations for the incident. Here is the account of the young man who took the video and also here is one BLACK resident of the community's account: That's very true. Maybe the officer #1 was having an argument with someone in the crowd before the video was Rolling. Someone who spit him in the face or insulting him... |
JaundicedEye Send message Joined: 14 Mar 12 Posts: 5375 Credit: 30,870,693 RAC: 1 |
I'm still not understanding how any of that justifies beating up and scaring children and waving guns at them.I'm not justifying or trying to justify, that is up to the court. I'm saying there was a lot going on, both actually and in the mind of the police officer. Please remember, there has been a kill order put out on all law enforcement in the USA. USA 2015 Year to date police fatalities by cause. Line of Duty Deaths: Total 54 9/11 related illness: 2; Accidental: 1;Assault: 1;Automobile accident: 15;Gunfire: 14;Gunfire (Accidental): 2;Heart attack: 11;Motorcycle accident: 1;Struck by vehicle: 3;Vehicle pursuit: 2;Vehicular assault: 2 Of the 14 killed by Gunfire, six were outright assassinations. This fact is in the back of the mind of every police officer every minute they are awake. No it does not justify the actions of a few out of many thousands who protect us daily, but it speaks to a possible state of mind during stressful situations. This makes it all the more important for each citizen to comply with police when ordered to do so. To not comply is a criminal act. There are enough amateur videographers that if abuse is committed, it will be recorded and judged. We do not have to accept our peers over-generalizing and making it sound like we are against all police officers.I do not think any sane individual is against all police officers, but the rhetoric spouted by the racial agitators would make it appear they want it that way if possible. "Sour Grapes make a bitter Whine." <(0)> |
Sarge Send message Joined: 25 Aug 99 Posts: 12273 Credit: 8,569,109 RAC: 79 |
I'm still not understanding how any of that justifies beating up and scaring children and waving guns at them.I'm not justifying or trying to justify, that is up to the court. I'm saying there was a lot going on, both actually and in the mind of the police officer. Please remember, there has been a kill order put out on all law enforcement in the USA. By ISIS, no? If so, not the same as "racial agitators", no? |
janneseti Send message Joined: 14 Oct 09 Posts: 14106 Credit: 655,366 RAC: 0 |
We have those racial problems here as well. Believe it or not. "Blatte" it's called and that means "N-word", "Muslim" and "Gypsy" Do we have police officers that call them "blatte"? Of course... Do we have shootings? Of course... |
Gary Charpentier Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 30640 Credit: 53,134,872 RAC: 32 |
They deserve more respect than they are given by most. They need to give the people they encounter in their job more respect. It is a two way street. |
Es99 Send message Joined: 23 Aug 05 Posts: 10874 Credit: 350,402 RAC: 0 |
I'm still not understanding how any of that justifies beating up and scaring children and waving guns at them.I'm not justifying or trying to justify, that is up to the court. I'm saying there was a lot going on, both actually and in the mind of the police officer. Please remember, there has been a kill order put out on all law enforcement in the USA. What has this got to do with children? Reality Internet Personality |
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