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Message 1661871 - Posted: 6 Apr 2015, 0:25:52 UTC - in response to Message 1661854.  

Strange. Don't the US know its own history?
Have anyone there met a Native American?

I have but that maybe doesnt count because they are from South America.
One is of course Fernando From Bolivia who I worked with for many years.
He came to Europe first to Bulgaria or Russia, I don't remember, but sooner to Sweden.
An other was from Chile and he told me is was a real Indian.
I asked him. "How do you know?"
He says "I feel it"


Why, of course!


Native American
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A member of any of the indigenous peoples of the Western Hemisphere. The ancestors of the Native Americans are generally considered by scientists to have entered the Americas from Asia by way of the Bering Strait sometime during the late glacial epoch.


I have had several friends from this group of people, and many more acquaintances.

I am just shy of 1/4 Native American, myself, from 2 different tribes, the Cherokee and the Ndendahe (Chiricahua).

What exactly is your point?
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Message 1661891 - Posted: 6 Apr 2015, 2:34:08 UTC - in response to Message 1661886.  

Have anyone there met a Native American?

Of course.

Live next to a Native American Nation.

BTW: They appear, because of their Casino's, to be wealthier than their 'Conquerors'.

Not every reserve has a Casino on it. In fact a lot of tribes have lost the rights to their natural resources. Then of course there is the tragedy of the residential schools where they had their children forcibly taken from them and educated in institutions where they suffered physical, sexual and emotional abuse. That is a legacy that will take generations to undo. The children were beaten if they spoke their own language so they lost their people's knowledge of how to live on the land. In some of these schools experiments were performed on the children in malnutrition. Yes, that's right, the children were starved to see what the effect would be on them.

In Canada, native education is under the control of the federal government. Until fairly recently they were not allowed to be educated beyond a grade 8 level. The band schools still receive far less funding than the regular schools, thus perpetuating the cycle of poverty.

Also, try to remember that all the tribes and bands are as different as all the countries in Europe. You cannot simply say that because your local tribe is one way that all tribes are that way.
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Message 1662315 - Posted: 7 Apr 2015, 13:56:59 UTC

I see the pundits are now claiming it wasn't racist. How far their heads are buried. Just because they want to be sure the kid has an NBA carrier they apologize for him. He picked the N word because it is racist and he wanted to use all the images of the worst. I suppose the only way the pundits would see it racial is if he said "honk*" Sad commentary.
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Message 1664615 - Posted: 12 Apr 2015, 18:15:48 UTC

Very interesting. Read that the reason for the Jim Crow laws was for the benefit of the Democratic party. They were put into place as an attempt to prevent poor white voters and the new black voters from becoming a political voting block that would vote Republican. The thought process behind it was, "you may be poor but at least you aren't black" thus driving a wedge in place.

Sad to see that it is still in use today and still being used as a wedge, even after the Civil Rights Act and the Voting Rights Act. Today of course the Dixiecrats have switched from the Democrats to the Tea Party and aligned as Republicans. But the wedge is still being used every time the word racist is spoken.

Race2: each of the major divisions of humankind, having distinct physical characteristics

But the ism isn't on distinct physical characteristics. It is: a group of people sharing the same culture, history, language, etc.

As long as the word racist is trotted out when the discrimination is on culture, then Jim Crow is still doing its job of driving a wedge between groups of people.

Why? Well racist comes out easy and carries a trace of plausibility and a lot of filth with it. We also know that solving discrimination on culture, history, language isn't easy. It may be intractable. So even the well educated take the easy route.
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Message 1666392 - Posted: 17 Apr 2015, 17:09:25 UTC

This will make some persons feel validated in the ideas they espouse ....
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-32347305
The violence comes despite Thursday's rally against xenophobia in the coastal city of Durban, and condemnation from President Jacob Zuma.

At least five people have died in anti-foreigner attacks in recent weeks.
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A crowd began looting foreign-owned shops in east Johannesburg on Thursday night. About about 200 foreigners took refuge at a police station.

Police fired tear gas and rubber bullets to disperse the looters and arrested 12 people.

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Message 1667012 - Posted: 18 Apr 2015, 21:38:19 UTC - in response to Message 1666392.  
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http://www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-32347305
Xenophobia is very much like racism.
Happens everywhere:(
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Message 1667630 - Posted: 20 Apr 2015, 15:50:09 UTC - in response to Message 1667619.  

Perhaps we know some of the members of the local klavern now
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/04/19/parma-police-resign-black-female-mayor_n_7097110.html

I suspect the town will be better off without them.
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Message 1671221 - Posted: 28 Apr 2015, 16:19:45 UTC

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Message 1671260 - Posted: 28 Apr 2015, 22:26:51 UTC
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Professional agitators?
http://www.foxnews.com/tech/2015/04/28/social-media-analysis-suggests-links-between-baltimore-and-ferguson-violence/

Atlantic wrote:
Officials calling for calm can offer no rational justification for Gray's death, and so they appeal for order.

Why assume there is a rational justification? If it is irrational does that take longer to determine? Then what? Announce and wash hands? Figure out who and hang them to the wall?
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Message 1671348 - Posted: 29 Apr 2015, 5:36:30 UTC - in response to Message 1671296.  

waiting for the white elders to sort out their community

Are you saying the Jews who own the Hollywood media are biased? Who would have thunk it? ;-)
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Message 1671478 - Posted: 29 Apr 2015, 14:29:29 UTC - in response to Message 1671348.  

waiting for the white elders to sort out their community

Are you saying the Jews who own the Hollywood media are biased? Who would have thunk it? ;-)


I'm sorry, I don't understand your question.
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Message 1671486 - Posted: 29 Apr 2015, 14:45:23 UTC - in response to Message 1671437.  

There are three truths.
1. The USA doesn't like black people.
2. Black people in the USA get a raw deal, especially poor ones.
3. Madonna is a professional showman with a living to earn. She will say and do anything to stay in the headlines as her career wanes.

1. Source pleace.
2. Source pleace.
3. LOL
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Message 1671496 - Posted: 29 Apr 2015, 15:07:20 UTC - in response to Message 1671493.  
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Firstly, pleace is spelt please.
    Q1. Source pleace.
    A1. This thread

    Q2. Source pleace.
    A2. This thread

    C3. Madonna .....
    A3. Yes we laugh at her, not with her.


Tack för att du rättar min engelska stavning!
Plis, I smell xenophobia here...
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Message 1671624 - Posted: 29 Apr 2015, 20:37:29 UTC

...let 'them'...

...have...

...'space'...

to...

...'destroy'...

...'it's'...'only'...

...'Property'...

yep

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Message 1671688 - Posted: 29 Apr 2015, 22:00:50 UTC

I believe this thread is about racism.

Not snide schoolboy type digs at each other.

Please back on topic and try and remember "attack the belief not the person"

Thank you.
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Message 1671762 - Posted: 30 Apr 2015, 1:14:23 UTC - in response to Message 1671493.  
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Firstly, pleace is spelt please.
    Q1. Source pleace.
    A1. This thread
    Q2. Source pleace.
    A2. This thread
    C3. Madonna .....
    A3. Yes we laugh at her, not with her.


Still haven't get some sources for your statements.
1. The USA doesn't like black people.
2. Black people in the USA get a raw deal, especially poor ones.
You say this thread. But were?
Give links like everyone else does.
Please:)
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Message 1671922 - Posted: 30 Apr 2015, 9:29:43 UTC - in response to Message 1671897.  

There are 39 pages in this thread, I simply haven't got the time to trawl through all of it just for you. If you have been following the general discussion you will have seen many instances to support the statements that I have made. If you think those statements are wrong then you have every opportunity to put your own point of view to the contrary.

Ah, but haven't you stated several times on these boards that we posters are only a miniscule percentage of our countries & not at all the majority of those countries thinking?
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