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Message 1626982 - Posted: 13 Jan 2015, 4:33:33 UTC - in response to Message 1626648.  

supporting the hurling of Katusha rockets in the hope, no matter how unlikely, that they will kill civilians, is supporting random acts of murder.

I am well aware of the poor and biased reporting via the American media of the situation in Gaza. Simply stating the simplisic one sided version again doesn't help, Gary. It just makes you look brainwashed.

Since it is now obvious your moral code supports killing as a response for theft, you should have no issues with Officer Wilson's shooting of Michael Brown.

If you do have issues with Officer Wilson, then you must also have issues with Katusha rockets, unless you have no moral code, or one that says whatever feels right at the time.

Mind you I know Gaza is a jail and Israel has the keys, right or wrong. (Do you support killing prison guards too?) Mind you I called the leaders of Israel Nazi's for their actions and you blasted me because that wasn't enough. If calling a Jew a Nazi isn't enough, then what is a big enough slur for you? I didn't ask then if you were an anti-Semite and I won't now.

Picking a moral code isn't the hard part, sticking to it without exceptions when it says the opposite of what you feel is growing a spine.
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Message 1626993 - Posted: 13 Jan 2015, 5:03:13 UTC - in response to Message 1626982.  

Picking a moral code isn't the hard part,


Admitting to an error and changing the code is the hard part.



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Message 1628578 - Posted: 16 Jan 2015, 20:19:56 UTC - in response to Message 1626982.  

supporting the hurling of Katusha rockets in the hope, no matter how unlikely, that they will kill civilians, is supporting random acts of murder.

I am well aware of the poor and biased reporting via the American media of the situation in Gaza. Simply stating the simplisic one sided version again doesn't help, Gary. It just makes you look brainwashed.

Since it is now obvious your moral code supports killing as a response for theft, you should have no issues with Officer Wilson's shooting of Michael Brown.

If you do have issues with Officer Wilson, then you must also have issues with Katusha rockets, unless you have no moral code, or one that says whatever feels right at the time.

Mind you I know Gaza is a jail and Israel has the keys, right or wrong. (Do you support killing prison guards too?) Mind you I called the leaders of Israel Nazi's for their actions and you blasted me because that wasn't enough. If calling a Jew a Nazi isn't enough, then what is a big enough slur for you? I didn't ask then if you were an anti-Semite and I won't now.

Picking a moral code isn't the hard part, sticking to it without exceptions when it says the opposite of what you feel is growing a spine.

Again your ignorance of what is actually going on in Palestine is showing.

So this whole post is not worth replying to and is a total straw man argument. I won't defend a position I don't even hold.

Go find out about the human rights abuses perpetuated on the Palestinians by the State of Israel and come back and tell me that you are ok with it. If you don't know about them, ask yourself why.
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Message 1628580 - Posted: 16 Jan 2015, 20:21:20 UTC

Back the topic of the thread.

http://everydayfeminism.com/2014/09/white-privilege-exists-america/?
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Message 1628591 - Posted: 16 Jan 2015, 20:38:24 UTC - in response to Message 1628578.  

Go find out about the human rights abuses perpetuated on the Palestinians by the State of Israel and come back and tell me that you are ok with it.

Two wrongs make a right. Expected that answer.
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Message 1628599 - Posted: 16 Jan 2015, 20:49:03 UTC - in response to Message 1628591.  

Go find out about the human rights abuses perpetuated on the Palestinians by the State of Israel and come back and tell me that you are ok with it.

Two wrongs make a right. Expected that answer.

Gary, I didn't give you an answer, and I certainly didn't give you that answer.

This thread is about racism. I am particularly interested in discussing the poorly acknowledged state of racism in America (and other Western countries) today.

If you wish to discuss the Israel Palestine conflict then there is a thread for that.
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Message 1629041 - Posted: 17 Jan 2015, 18:32:11 UTC - in response to Message 1628842.  

Go find out about the human rights abuses perpetuated on the Palestinians by the State of Israel and come back and tell me that you are ok with it.

Two wrongs make a right. Expected that answer.

The Non-Answer, in the previous post by Es99 - Was the answer.

Note: Will Es99 understand my sarcasm?

Answer: No.

You clearly do not understand that I will not allow either you nor Gary to make up positions for me to hold because I refuse to be drawn into a debate that is off topic.

Both of you are guilty of doing that in order to force a debate, which I will yet again point out is not the topic of this thread.
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Message 1629441 - Posted: 18 Jan 2015, 18:36:10 UTC

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Message 1629531 - Posted: 18 Jan 2015, 23:33:59 UTC - in response to Message 1629441.  

The Lesson of Charlie Hebdo: The World Only Cares if You Kill White People

by Black Agenda Report
I suppose you support this agenda.

Shall we talk about Eldridge Cleaver? (as you didn't answer this earlier) Do you support his agenda?
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Message 1629604 - Posted: 19 Jan 2015, 3:16:19 UTC - in response to Message 1629531.  

The Lesson of Charlie Hebdo: The World Only Cares if You Kill White People

by Black Agenda Report
I suppose you support this agenda.

Shall we talk about Eldridge Cleaver? (as you didn't answer this earlier) Do you support his agenda?

I don't know enough about him to make an informed decision. It looks like he led a complicated life and you would have to be specific as to what parts I am supposed to support and which to condemn. Do I support his views on rape (another example of how one oppressed group can oppress another), absolutely. I don't condone his support of Ronald Reagan either.

I do however think that if he did indeed repent his actions, that is a good thing.

However, Gary. As I already pointed out that I don't support rape as a tool of protest (seriously Gary, are you so linear that you don't understand that?) I have no idea why you want me to repeat that. The idea that you fight white supremacy by raping women implies that women are simply possessions and objects to be used at will. (i.e. white women belong to white men)

This is an example of misogyny. It has nothing to do with racial oppression and is therefore not the topic of this thread.
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Message 1629671 - Posted: 19 Jan 2015, 6:26:01 UTC - in response to Message 1629604.  

I don't know enough about him to make an informed decision. It looks like he led a complicated life and you would have to be specific as to what parts I am supposed to support and which to condemn.]

I have to be specific about what you are to do? Thank you for giving me that power over you.

Do I support his views on rape (another example of how one oppressed group can oppress another), absolutely. I don't condone his support of Ronald Reagan either.
??

I do however think that if he did indeed repent his actions, that is a good thing.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eldridge_Cleaver wrote:
However, he refused to show any remorse for his career as a rapist, or acknowledge any debt to society, claiming in Soul on Ice that "the blood of Vietnamese peasants has paid off all my debts".
Repent?

I can't figure out which or his views on rape that you support. When he was doing it? When he said in the book his reasons for doing it were incorrect? Or when he refused to show remorse for his actions? I'm not sure he even knew what his view on rape was.

However I was thinking more about his leading a raiding party to hunt down police officers to kill them. Why I wonder is the hunting down of police officers for politics sounds very much like the same thought process that leads to raping white women for politics. Something akin to two wrongs make a right and being able to objectify and devalue human beings to do these wrongs.
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Message 1629962 - Posted: 19 Jan 2015, 20:33:54 UTC

Here is a look of Rev. Martin Luther King Jr. that most people outside of the Civil Rights mainstream did not/do not know of. It is a speech given by him in 1967 concerning the Two Americas that we lived in during that time and if you think really hard on the subject, it is still relevant today some 48 years later. Please read the whole article and take the time to watch the 48 minute speech. http://www.upworthy.com/this-doesnt-sound-like-the-mlk-i-learned-about-in-school?c=huf1 If you take the time to watch, please play close attention to what he is saying and how it relates to today. If you don't deem to watch it and pay attention, please don't comment on it.


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Message 1630001 - Posted: 19 Jan 2015, 21:29:52 UTC

MLK and BHO are Hustlers. Charlatans. Swindlers. Liars.

If They Learned 'it' from The White Blue-Eyed Devil, So Be 'It'.

They are Still BullShit Artists of The First Degree.

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Message 1630091 - Posted: 20 Jan 2015, 2:29:19 UTC - in response to Message 1629677.  

Gary...

Es99 is...

Learned, awhile ago, you cannot reason with her.


Oh the irony.

Her 'thinking' process is an internal fantasy, and she accuses White People of the most horrible things.

You mean like slavery and genocide? Yeah. They were pretty horrible things.

She once accused my white in-laws of being basically 'Closet Racist'

Seriously, Clyde? You are actually going to have to provide real proof and actual context of your statement.

(she doesn't know them and believes this because of their skin color)


Believes what? That all white people are actually racist to one degree or another? I stand by that. Gary (who your post is aimed at) actually started this thread with that assertion. So I am very confused as to why you think that he would be horrified that I agree with him.


We do know what people who do this are.

People who recognise uncomfortable truths?

And then, to 'top-it-off': She made statements , regarding my Black Grandchildren's thinking.

huh?

How would she know. She doesn't, of course. She is just Transferring her own internal thoughts to other's. As shown in her Posts.


Oh the irony. You've just done exactly that in this very post. Exactly that.

One cannot reason, nor have an intelligent discussion, with these type of people.

What types, Clyde? Because I don't know if you are deliberately not understanding anything I write or you really simply have basic literacy problems.

EDIT: Hope you get to read this before either Es99, or another, decides to Red X this post.


I'm an 'effing mod, Clyde. Why on earth would I red X your post? If it is that bad I'd simply remove it. What planet are you on?

They can 'dish it out' towards others, but can't take it.

Considering how many times you've insulted me in this post alone, that's hilarious.

EDIT 2: You may believe this harsh. But, after the attacks against my family, by Es99

There were none, Clyde. Absolutely none except the mock outrage in your head because you didn't actually read properly what I wrote.
I'll repeat what I wrote here just so you can pretend outrage all over again. I'll even put them in bold so you can get pretend that they are insulting and claim that you don't want to red X them.

You have mixed race grandchildren which you bought up in these discussions. They will face racism.

You have black in-laws who may not feel comfortable discussing race issues with you because white people get incredibly defensive when it is brought up.


(pretty much everything you've ever said in this thread proves my assumption about how you might react to discussions on race. Including this current post of yours)

(I didn't Red x, not will ever Red X), I believe I am entitled to state the truth about Es99.

What is your obsession with the redX?
I understand your obsession with me, I'm awesome. However, you have yet to "state the truth about Es99" so I am looking forward to the moment when you finally get it and actually read what I write.
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Message 1630351 - Posted: 20 Jan 2015, 23:47:08 UTC

GOoD Old Days. Lonesome Rhodes sayin' to Puke Pol, how're we gunna get this 'Bush Monkey' to vote for you? 'Bush Monkey' being a White Guy, as Rhodes and Pol are. And US White Guys watchin' Movie, not fazed by 'Bush Monkey' reference at all, bein' the 'Bush Monkey' is a Low-Class, Dumb lookin' White.

Black 'Servant' with tray of booze drinks, off to side with dat Big Ole Toothy Smile, aching to dispense with duties and get back to kitchen to roll with laughter at The Whites.

Man O Live, GOoD ole Days. When People knew Their Place and Did Not Get Upset at all 'bout 'it'.

'cause knowin' and acceptin', 'is' the Tonic Cure fO All Dat Ails 21st Century Peoples.

But NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO, we Can't Know Our Place, can we?

Yep. Knowing and Accepting Your Place, 'is' The Beauty of All Cooperation and Forward Progress.

Yep. fO shO.

Yep.

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Message 1630520 - Posted: 21 Jan 2015, 7:34:56 UTC - in response to Message 1630485.  

They put Pictures of similar looking White and Black Men. And they had to 'Pick' the correct Subject to shoot.

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Sounds like correct training.

Agree?

Only the black targets had holes in them. Still agree?
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Message 1630531 - Posted: 21 Jan 2015, 8:25:49 UTC - in response to Message 1630485.  

Watched the first episode of "The Nightly Show with LARRY WILMORE",
taking the slot from "The Colbert Report".
Pretty funny, and should have a fair bit of racial subject matter.
Their report that the North Miami Beach Police were using photographs
of black men during weapons training was disturbing.
Glad I don't live in the USA.

Also White Men.

Didn't they report that?

This were their 'Sniper Teams'.

They put Pictures of similar looking White and Black Men. And they had to 'Pick' the correct Subject to shoot.

Didn't they report that?

Sounds like correct training.

Agree?


NO i don't

It's racial profiling and wrong , next you'll say it's ok to use Arab faces or Asian's the same way

IT"S RACIST YES YOU ARE and a good example of how well racial profiling works is , AKA: your a EX COP
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Message 1630544 - Posted: 21 Jan 2015, 9:38:57 UTC

Whatever White Men Do, 'it' 'is' Not Liked by Many People.

Unless 'it' 'is' FREE MONEY fO NOTHING.

FREE RIDE fO NOTHING.

FREE EXCUSES fO BAD BEHAVIOUR.

HIGH PAYING Jobs fO DOING NOTHING.

FREE FOOD fO NOTHING.

FREE UTILITIES fO NOTHING.

FREEDOM Another 'Word' fO Screwing White People.

'cause They Be The Devil.

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Message 1630578 - Posted: 21 Jan 2015, 12:45:19 UTC - in response to Message 1630544.  
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FREE RIDE fO NOTHING.


I payed my fair shear of "TAX"s so i'm a old fart "YEP" you darn tooting i's is entitled to my retirement and a aged pension

FREE EXCUSES fO BAD BEHAVIOUR.


No excuses fo bad behaviour but you gotta give people 1/2 a chance , people don't all ways have a choice if the can work . No job no cash no dole no cash only left with stealing and jail in a capitalist world

HIGH PAYING Jobs fO DOING NOTHING.


You bet ya Bankers sitting on my super and losing money and getting payed big buck's ta do it

CHUCK the whole dam lot in the Clink with only bread and water , and see how they like it fer a few years or 4

You young ankle biters can earn my keep....bonded work don't ya just luv it capitalism , forcing the next gen ta pay my pension , i'm a selfish baby boomer and my gen saved the world so think of it as COMPO .....so ;i;;
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Message 1630591 - Posted: 21 Jan 2015, 13:39:10 UTC - in response to Message 1630544.  

FREE FOOD fO NOTHING.


Hey i gotta pay fer my food , and Woollies is a rip off and Coles is crap the food don't last , not fresh. So less money fer me beer mate cos Woollies is ripping me off with there prices .

We don't humiliate people by giving them food stamps anymore we live in the 21st century and you pay out of your pension or dole , even the charity's use a card much like a credit card with the only limit is no alcohol , lighters . or cigarettes .

FREE UTILITIES fO NOTHING.


I have ta pay fer my utilities outa my pension , or dole

Plus i "PAYED MY TAXES" so i'm only getting the interest back on what i payed them

FREEDOM Another 'Word' fO Screwing White People.

'cause They Be The Devil.


Yeh Bro KKK horaay horaay horaay , Nazi , hail hail hail , Communists comrade comrade comrade southern Americans here boy here boy here boy
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