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Message 1615832 - Posted: 18 Dec 2014, 17:07:46 UTC

Sigh,
http://www.technologyreview.com/photoessay/533426/the-troll-hunters/
and they thought they could wear white robes and not be recognized .....
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Message 1615842 - Posted: 18 Dec 2014, 17:25:04 UTC - in response to Message 1615832.  

Sigh,
http://www.technologyreview.com/photoessay/533426/the-troll-hunters/
and they thought they could wear white robes and not be recognized .....



I'm no racist (or am I...) but I do hate internet trolls! Shared your link on facebook Gary.
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Message 1615853 - Posted: 18 Dec 2014, 17:47:56 UTC - in response to Message 1615832.  

Sigh,
http://www.technologyreview.com/photoessay/533426/the-troll-hunters/
and they thought they could wear white robes and not be recognized .....

Thanks for your link.
All Trolls are not that bad:)
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Message 1615894 - Posted: 18 Dec 2014, 18:47:29 UTC

This doesn't help either, especially since Ferguson...

70 years too late
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Message 1615900 - Posted: 18 Dec 2014, 19:03:38 UTC - in response to Message 1615894.  

This doesn't help either, especially since Ferguson...

70 years too late


http://edition.cnn.com/2014/12/17/us/george-stinney-ruling/ wrote:
An all-white jury convicted him in a flash, 10 minutes.

I didn't think it would be possible to elect a jury foreman and fill out the paperwork in only 10 minutes, and this is a human being's life. Disgusting. The Manson jury took nine days.
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Message 1615906 - Posted: 18 Dec 2014, 19:10:14 UTC - in response to Message 1615900.  

This doesn't help either, especially since Ferguson...

70 years too late


http://edition.cnn.com/2014/12/17/us/george-stinney-ruling/ wrote:
An all-white jury convicted him in a flash, 10 minutes.

I didn't think it would be possible to elect a jury foreman and fill out the paperwork in only 10 minutes, and this is a human being's life. Disgusting. The Manson jury took nine days.

Maybe the year had something to do with that? - 1944
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Message 1616019 - Posted: 19 Dec 2014, 0:08:57 UTC

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2014/12/18/it-okay-to-hate-republicans-michigan-professor-writes-in-column/
A University of Michigan professor already known for her partisan views confirmed the suspicions of students when she penned a column for a non-profit magazine titled, "It's okay to hate Republicans."

Well, if it is okay to hate one minority group, why not another say women university professors or the subject here; a race?
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Message 1616989 - Posted: 21 Dec 2014, 17:01:41 UTC - in response to Message 1616026.  
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As a recently retired Associate Professor at a Local University in Miami, after a Career as an NYPD Detective, and prior Service in Vietnam:

Have found that those Serving in the Armed Forces and Police Departments, are MORE Tolerant, than those Employed at University's of Higher Education.



I believe what you really mean to say is they are more tolerant of republicans.
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Message 1618849 - Posted: 25 Dec 2014, 21:58:56 UTC

Rush Limbaugh, mouthpiece of the conservative troglodytes confirms he is a racist ... (we already know he is a drug addict)
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/rush-limbaugh-idris-elba-cant-play-james-bond-because-hes-black/ wrote:
Rush Limbaugh: Idris Elba can't play James Bond because he's black

Daniel Craig is suiting up as James Bond once again for the franchise's latest film, but Rush Limbaugh is weighing in on who should play the British superspy next.

On Tuesday's "The Rush Limbaugh Show," the conservative pundit said actor Idris Elba ("The Wire," "Luther") should not be the new Bond, referring to a leaked email in which Sony Pictures Entertainment co-chairman Amy Pascal reportedly wrote that Elba should succeed Craig in the role.

"James Bond is a total concept put together by [author] Ian Fleming," Limbaugh said. "He was white and Scottish. Period. That is who James Bond is, was."

"But now [they are] suggesting that the next James Bond should be Idris Elba, a black Briton, rather than a white from Scotland," he continued. "But that's not who James Bond is, and I know it's racist to probably point this out."

According to The Hollywood Reporter, Limbaugh then went on to compare Elba playing Bond to George Clooney being cast as President Barack Obama.

How many times does he invoke white privilege in his words? Oh, and if you know it is racist, why did you do it?!
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Message 1619037 - Posted: 26 Dec 2014, 9:30:24 UTC

A black James Bond? So what. Seeing he is a fictional character, He can be who ever owns the rights to make the movie. If it tanks at the box office, Well then it tanks.
Take Nick Fury in the Iron Man and Avenger movie and agents of shield TV show. Now back when I was a young teen. He was in two Marvel comic books. Sgt Fury and the howling commandoes.And Nick Fury agent of shield. He was a white dude.
Does it bother me that Samuel L. Jackson plays Nick fury in the movies. Not at all. As a matter of fact I cant think of another actor who would be better.

Its Hollywood. Their job is to make money and rejuvinate a franchise to make money. Id say the Bond movies make money. And I like Daniel Craig as Bond. Ive liked all the Bonds except Timothy Dalton.

Well thats my two cents.
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Message 1619284 - Posted: 27 Dec 2014, 2:39:03 UTC
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I think Bond should be played by a Canadian...........
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Message 1619314 - Posted: 27 Dec 2014, 7:29:06 UTC - in response to Message 1619284.  

I think Bond should be played by a Canadian...........

Good God Man, you don't mean Justin Bieber ..... thud!
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Message 1619422 - Posted: 27 Dec 2014, 17:21:51 UTC - in response to Message 1619314.  

Good God Man, you don't mean Justin Bieber ..... thud!


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Message 1619430 - Posted: 27 Dec 2014, 18:02:16 UTC - in response to Message 1615386.  

Many thanks for the clarification Hev. Es didn't make the location of the story 100% clear at the time she posted it, nor the timescale of it, and it was fair to assume that she was talking about her present place of residence. If I completely misunderstood and should have realised that she meant the UK, then of course she is due an apology, which I am happy to give.

Yes, you do. Your comments about Canada were a really off the mark. What you should have said is "that would never happen in Canada, because here they won't throw you off the bus if you don't have your fare". Of course I had my fare so it wouldn't have even happened in the first place here...and the bus driver certainly would never have sworn at me and threatened me the way the British bus conductor did.

But I am a little confused, because in my experience in Central and South London, I really wouldn't have thought that they would park a bus for an hour in a busy city in circumstances like that, even if there were plenty of following services. So I think that my conclusions are still valid.

Well they did. Have you really never been on a London bus were fights have broken out between the stressed out drivers and stressed our passengers before? Or between passengers? I suppose you've never seen people doing crack at the back of the bus either? Or perhaps you've never had some bloke come sit right next to you/behind you/in front of you and start to jerk off while leering at you? A bus being held up in a busy central London high street is least weird thing I've seen on a London bus.

I really don't recognise the world you live in Chris. Where you think everything is sorted out by a stiff letter to someone in charge and all wrongs are righted the minute you make a complaint or the when the police show up. I simply have never lived in that world. Tell me what it's like to have people actually show you enough default respect that it works for you. It must be like Christmas every day.

Notwithstanding, I still support her stance against institutionalised and endemic racism against black people. which has no place in the civilised world.

I am glad to hear that.

Now, think about the world you live in, and the very different world I live in because I am female, even though we supposedly lived in the same country.

Imagine then, that the world a black person lives in is different too.

Maybe this article will help some people understand it: Straight White Male: The Lowest Difficulty Setting There Is

I think the first step is to stop claiming that because something doesn't happen to you or has never happened to you that isn't a big problem for other people. You cannot know what it is like for someone until you walk a mile in their shoes. As that is very difficult to actually do, the second best thing is to really listen to what they are telling you and believe them.

The black people in Ferguson are telling people that there is a problem, but unlike you, they don't get results by writing a stiff letter of complaint and talking to the police. No one listens.

Perhaps people should start listening.
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Message 1619435 - Posted: 27 Dec 2014, 18:35:07 UTC - in response to Message 1615169.  

I'm female. We simply don't have time for all the things that have been hollered at me over the years. Most of them I would have to mod anyway as they are pretty foul. At least you got "pimp". Pimp is far better than the alternative right? And probably less scary.

So all the hollering at you was sexual? Nothing racial?

Why would they get that far when my gender is such low hanging fruit? Much easier to punch down, I guess.


Wrong. I know offensive sexual things have been yelled at you. You have said so several times in several threads. That you would assume I don't remember speaks volumes about how you view the world.

It says volumes about my experience of the world. No one would bother to make racist comments at me. Like I said, they can attack me for being female without having to make any other effort to try and think of something that might be offensive to me as a white person. It would be really hard to attack me for being white because its not really considered a negative thing by society. It just doesn't pack the same punch does it?


That would be exceptional, even for a white woman.

Really? Then I guess all my friends are exceptional too. I've been stopped by the police only a handful of times in my entire life (once for speeding, once for the bus incident, once for not stopping at a red light, and once for driving with only one headlamp on my car and I guess you could include the prank call to my house). Perhaps I am invisible to them? Maybe its the blonde hair (although its got darker as I've got older so maybe I should lighten to be sure) and the blue eyes? I have no explanation for it. In my world the police don't stop me no matter what I am doing. On the downside, they don't really take any of my complaints seriously either. Domestic violence? We'll just take him and leave him at a friend's house. Oh, he sent you threats saying he was gong to cut you up? Just call us if he actually does it, now run along dear...


Police, police, police. You bring them up in nearly every sentence. It is as if you are fixated upon them to the exclusion of all else. Do you believe that every single one of them is a vile racist skinhead KKK member to the core?

The other alternative is that in my mind this thread is actually about the Ferguson killing and the police killings of unarmed black men. Or at least that is where it started out.


Are we still going with the single datum and extend to the world again? I'm willing to give that the police were you live are racist pigs just out to screw with as many brothers as they can. Are you willing to give that is not a universal absolute?

#notallmen, #notallpolice? How about #yesallwomen, #yesallblackpeople ?

Not all men harass women, not all police are racist, but all women have been harassed by men and pretty much every black person I've known (and living in a black are for 20 years and teaching in an all black school for 3 of them I knew a lot of black people) has had negative experiences with the police because of their race.

Had that conversation about suspicious with a coworker last week. The person has been stopped several times riding a bike from work to the transit stop. Want to try and explain why?

I would need more information. Is there a local crackdown by police on bike riders not following the road laws?
Are they non-white?
Are they actually doing something they shouldn't be?

A black person running down the street should not be suspicious. But we all know cops aren't the brightest. You would hope they would learn they are wasting their time with all the nothing they find, but perhaps their light bulbs aren't that bright.

I've had lots of interactions with the police (reporting crime) and I from my experience most of them are not that bright. I also know which sort of student was the sort that wanted to join the police.

My view of the police is not very positive. I think a lot of them mean well, and some of them have been very nice. They were absolutely amazing when my son was attacked. However, most of the time..I have not been very impressed. They take an awful long time to catch on to things. It's not like TV.

KEVIN MURRAY, Assemblyman http://articles.latimes.com/1998/oct/24/local/me-35617 wrote:
I introduced the California Traffic Stops Statistics Act because an inordinate number of African American men, including me, have been unnecessarily stopped by police. The underlying reason we are stopped so often is the perception that minorities are more likely to commit crimes and that warrants greater scrutiny of them.

It really has to do with police culture. If a black officer does it, it is still racism.

Maybe some cold hard data would refute their (cops) dim light bulbs.

..and there are lots of reports of black officers being the victims of racism from within the police force.
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Message 1619436 - Posted: 27 Dec 2014, 18:35:31 UTC - in response to Message 1619430.  

The black people in Ferguson are telling people that there is a problem, but unlike you, they don't get results by writing a stiff letter of complaint and talking to the police. No one listens.

Perhaps people should start listening.

Both sides need to listen to each other.
http://www.jewishjournal.com/los_angeles/article/what_ferguson_can_learn_from_lapds_rehabilitation
JJ: Do you think there is more the LAPD needs to do with regard to its relationship with African-American communities, and, in particular, with the perception that Blacks are being unjustly targeted? The Harvard study showed, at least through 2009, that Blacks are stopped and arrested disproportionately to other races.

SS: We don’t racial profile. Do we criminal profile? Yeah. I believe that a lot more communication, and a lot more preventative, programmatic things need to happen in a number of communities, and with a number of gangs — whether they are African-American gangs or Latino gangs.

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Message 1619440 - Posted: 27 Dec 2014, 18:53:58 UTC - in response to Message 1619435.  

Are we still going with the single datum and extend to the world again? I'm willing to give that the police were you live are racist pigs just out to screw with as many brothers as they can. Are you willing to give that is not a universal absolute?

#notallmen, #notallpolice? How about #yesallwomen, #yesallblackpeople ?

Not all men harass women, not all police are racist, but all women have been harassed by men and pretty much every black person I've known (and living in a black are for 20 years and teaching in an all black school for 3 of them I knew a lot of black people) has had negative experiences with the police because of their race.

Then I think we are in agreement.

Had that conversation about suspicious with a coworker last week. The person has been stopped several times riding a bike from work to the transit stop. Want to try and explain why?

I would need more information. Is there a local crackdown by police on bike riders not following the road laws?
Are they non-white?
Are they actually doing something they shouldn't be?

No crackdown. Not doing anything but trying to get from work to home. As to race, I'll say the person is not the same race as the neighborhood.

My view of the police is not very positive.

That is obvious.

Maybe some cold hard data would refute their (cops) dim light bulbs.

..and there are lots of reports of black officers being the victims of racism from within the police force.

You are writing that as if there is only one police force in the world. You are allowing your perception to color your arguments. You just scolded Chris for the same thing.
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Message 1619443 - Posted: 27 Dec 2014, 18:57:31 UTC - in response to Message 1619440.  


You are writing that as if there is only one police force in the world. You are allowing your perception to color your arguments. You just scolded Chris for the same thing.

The reports I am talking about are from some US police forces. I am aware that there is variation between the police forces in the US.

In Brixton there were riots because of poor relations between the people and the police. The police had to change their community policing strategy. I think it did improve things a lot, but there was still a lot of distrust.
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