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Message 1615102 - Posted: 17 Dec 2014, 4:50:12 UTC - in response to Message 1615071.  

Have you ever been stopped by the police for running for a bus?

No, but someone who happened to be going down the sidewalk with me did get pinched. They ran the pedestrian signal, I stopped and also had seen the officer. Can't remember if it was before or after I read the newspaper article about the stepped up pedestrian safety enforcement program. They are damn righteous about safety campaigns and have zero tolerance.

I'm just talking about running down the sidewalk perfectly legally. Its happen to friends on mine on multiple occasions because running while black is suspicious.

Now as to me, I've been pulled over on mistaken id for a traffic ticket, and also had an officer be incorrect on my driving and even once gotten one I deserved. Now they have also tried to hang different felonies on me at various times, which I had no part in.

All times I've been stopped by police I've deserved it. One of black friends who happened to be the son of millionaire business executive and therefore drove a very nice car. He was stopped by the police at least once a week for driving a nice car while black.

BTW have you ever been walking down the street and have someone lean out the window and yell the N word at you? I have. As well as a few others including honky, gringo, huerto and pimp.

I'm female. We simply don't have time for all the things that have been hollered at me over the years. Most of them I would have to mod anyway as they are pretty foul. At least you got "pimp". Pimp is far better than the alternative right? And probably less scary.

The fact that you have to ask if I've ever had someone yell something offensive to me as I walk down the street is an example of how white men really have no idea what its like for the rest of us. That you would even ask that..that you would even entertain the thought that this might not have happened to me or that it has even happened to you as much as its happened to me....

Sure, white people get stopped by police...but as often as black men? No. Are the police more likely to react with violence when dealing with a black person? Yes.
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Message 1615169 - Posted: 17 Dec 2014, 7:46:25 UTC - in response to Message 1615102.  

I'm female. We simply don't have time for all the things that have been hollered at me over the years. Most of them I would have to mod anyway as they are pretty foul. At least you got "pimp". Pimp is far better than the alternative right? And probably less scary.

So all the hollering at you was sexual? Nothing racial?

The fact that you have to ask if I've ever had someone yell something offensive to me as I walk down the street is an example of how white men really have no idea what its like for the rest of us.

Wrong. I know offensive sexual things have been yelled at you. You have said so several times in several threads. That you would assume I don't remember speaks volumes about how you view the world.

All times I've been stopped by police I've deserved it.

That would be exceptional, even for a white woman.

One of black friends who happened to be the son of millionaire business executive and therefore drove a very nice car. He was stopped by the police at least once a week for driving a nice car while black.

Sure, white people get stopped by police...but as often as black men? No. Are the police more likely to react with violence when dealing with a black person? Yes.

Police, police, police. You bring them up in nearly every sentence. It is as if you are fixated upon them to the exclusion of all else. Do you believe that every single one of them is a vile racist skinhead KKK member to the core?

I'm just talking about running down the sidewalk perfectly legally. Its happen to friends on mine on multiple occasions because running while black is suspicious.

Are we still going with the single datum and extend to the world again? I'm willing to give that the police were you live are racist pigs just out to screw with as many brothers as they can. Are you willing to give that is not a universal absolute?

Had that conversation about suspicious with a coworker last week. The person has been stopped several times riding a bike from work to the transit stop. Want to try and explain why?

A black person running down the street should not be suspicious. But we all know cops aren't the brightest. You would hope they would learn they are wasting their time with all the nothing they find, but perhaps their light bulbs aren't that bright.

KEVIN MURRAY, Assemblyman http://articles.latimes.com/1998/oct/24/local/me-35617 wrote:
I introduced the California Traffic Stops Statistics Act because an inordinate number of African American men, including me, have been unnecessarily stopped by police. The underlying reason we are stopped so often is the perception that minorities are more likely to commit crimes and that warrants greater scrutiny of them.

It really has to do with police culture. If a black officer does it, it is still racism.

Maybe some cold hard data would refute their (cops) dim light bulbs.
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Message 1615186 - Posted: 17 Dec 2014, 8:19:30 UTC

If Ones Like this Wonderful Black Man, are The VanGuard of Justice for Blacks, There is Hope.

If Ones Like The99One and InsaneHustlin'Hussein are The VanGuards of Justice for Blacks, I Believe The Cause Will Go No Where Fast.

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Message 1615230 - Posted: 17 Dec 2014, 11:06:43 UTC

I'm a white male, and where I live, I'm decidedly in the minority. How, do you think, does that change things?
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Message 1615295 - Posted: 17 Dec 2014, 14:50:09 UTC - in response to Message 1615102.  

Pimp is far better than the alternative right?


A pimp is the lowest form of animal to be found any where!


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Message 1615328 - Posted: 17 Dec 2014, 16:04:02 UTC - in response to Message 1615295.  

Pimp is far better than the alternative right?


A pimp is the lowest form of animal to be found any where!




Why are you insulting the animals Ian?
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Message 1615358 - Posted: 17 Dec 2014, 18:08:26 UTC - in response to Message 1615328.  

Why are you insulting the animals Ian?


:):)


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Message 1615366 - Posted: 17 Dec 2014, 18:45:30 UTC - in response to Message 1614707.  
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Sorry - I'm a bit behind here :/

@Gary
100% of people are racist. Got that yet?

:) Can I take that as your answer to my question? :)

@Robert - what Chris said :)

@Clyde
Are you defending a Poster's right to express their idea's.
Or are you defending the Poster's personal attack against other Poster's Grandchildren, and other Family Members?

There is a difference.

Oh... Clyde :( that only blew up again in this thread (after having died out three threads ago) because you misinterpreted an unrelated reference (made by Es) to being about you and your family, to which Es very clearly pointed out that that was not and never had been her intention.

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Pimp is far better than the alternative right?


A pimp is the lowest form of animal to be found any where!




Why are you insulting the animals Ian?

:))))

There is something a lot lower than a pimp in my view...

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I'm a white male, and where I live, I'm decidedly in the minority. How, do you think, does that change things?

I could have a go at answering that I think :) but I have an insider's view so I won't :) Good luck getting a response :)
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Message 1615367 - Posted: 17 Dec 2014, 18:47:10 UTC - in response to Message 1615256.  

Well one of the times it happened was in the afternoon. While my black friends would be stopped by the police on a regular basis for running for the bus, I got a ride home once for holding up a bus for over an hour after the bus conductor falsely accused me of not paying the correct fare. Have you ever been stopped by the police for running for a bus?

I've just got an extreme stubborn streak when I know I'm right. Luckily I'm white and the police simply give me a ride home when I've dug my heels in over something.

Hold on, that story is two separate matters in one. Firstly it is being suggested that the police would usually think that a black man running is doing so, because he is more likely than a white person to have done something wrong, and is legging it away from the scene of the crime. That is pure racism, based on colour, unless there are police stats to the contrary.

The second matter is one of alleged fare dodging. Standing up for ones personal principles is perfectly laudable, but when it inconveniences others to a large degree, that could even be seen as a bit selfish. Could it be that the police deliberately drove you home to make sure that you didn't cause any more trouble that day?

In the UK that wouldn't have happened, within 5 minutes the driver would have called for a police presence, you would have been "escorted" off the bus, and the vehicle allowed to continue on it's way. The matter would then have been dealt with, one way or the other. I would have paid up, then gone straight down to the Bus Managers office and given them bloody hell, with a full report to the local papers. And demanded compensation and a public apology for being falsely accused.

From ES's general experiences over the last couple of years I don't think I'd want to live in Canada!


Wrong Chris, the bus incident happened in Central London UK. Plenty of other buses for people to take.
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Message 1615425 - Posted: 17 Dec 2014, 20:08:52 UTC
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The thread title on its own is a flame, or isn't it...

[edit] No it isn't... *rushes back over to go wander to Rocky's...*
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Message 1615473 - Posted: 17 Dec 2014, 21:36:21 UTC - in response to Message 1615366.  

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100% of people are racist. Got that yet?

:) Can I take that as your answer to my question? :)

Yes you can. Like anything not everyone acts on it every time. :)
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Message 1615482 - Posted: 17 Dec 2014, 21:56:01 UTC

I have a feeling many here will identify with this column ...
http://www.thecollegefix.com/post/20236/
Omar Mahmood wrote:
It was one of the coldest days of this winter past, and I was hurrying along the Diag to class. The blistering cold did not turn my eyes from all the white privilege falling around [me]. All those white snowflakes falling thick upon the autumn leaves, burying their colors. Majoring in womyn’s studies, I’ve learned that oppression comes in many forms. Sometimes we fail to notice it because it’s just everywhere – just like that white snow.

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Message 1615499 - Posted: 17 Dec 2014, 22:25:19 UTC

I have a feeling many here will identify with this column ...


I'm OFFENDED His BLACK INK 'is' Covering The WHITE PAGE.

Frakkin' Black Privilege.

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Message 1615501 - Posted: 17 Dec 2014, 22:28:57 UTC - in response to Message 1615499.  

Looks more superior than white or yellow ink on a white page does it not?
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Message 1615508 - Posted: 17 Dec 2014, 22:37:30 UTC - in response to Message 1615501.  

Sometimes I think he would prefer
white ink on white paper......


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Message 1615526 - Posted: 17 Dec 2014, 23:11:59 UTC - in response to Message 1615499.  

I have a feeling many here will identify with this column ...


I'm OFFENDED His BLACK INK 'is' Covering The WHITE PAGE.

Frakkin' Black Privilege.

Yep.


What if they are white letters on black? (Cosmology does it...)
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Message 1615540 - Posted: 17 Dec 2014, 23:20:55 UTC - in response to Message 1615508.  
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Sometimes I think he would prefer
white ink on white paper......

I suspect some wished he wrote that way.
>And it is possible. ;-)<
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Message 1615606 - Posted: 18 Dec 2014, 1:40:08 UTC - in response to Message 1615540.  
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Sometimes I think he would prefer
white ink on white paper......

I suspect some wished he wrote that way.
>And it is possible. ;-)<


>I know - good innit :) and not too bad when quoted either :) wonder if it's possible at pogs and cosmology - with black obviously :)<
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Message 1615633 - Posted: 18 Dec 2014, 3:25:08 UTC

Got Cha!

White ink on White paper.

Yea, like Thoughts, conscious and sub-conscious. Unintentional Bias/Racism. etc etc etc. The 'Hidden' Racism.

Don't Know 'it' 'is' There, until 'it' 'is' There.

And With Your Joking AGAINST ME, you Proved with > < your Racism.

Got Cha!

Damn I'm Brilliant.

Rolling on The Floor. Again!

Yep. Again.

Yep

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Message 1615634 - Posted: 18 Dec 2014, 3:28:16 UTC - in response to Message 1615633.  

Yes, you have dine very well oh Tiny one.....



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