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Message 1816046 - Posted: 10 Sep 2016, 1:08:12 UTC - in response to Message 1816043.  

What scheme do you propose to restore the ice cap to some standard ??


here's a "cockamamey scheme " how about we put a hole load of the snow making machines on the highest pecks and rain fresh made snow over them :)

To late to stop the North pole but we may be able to slow down the south before it does actually melt big time .
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Message 1816049 - Posted: 10 Sep 2016, 1:13:40 UTC

Ice loss in the arctic is not our fault, it's them crazy
Europeans chipping it all up for use in party drinks!



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You won't take the seals, but you don't mind taking the ice they live on.....
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Message 1816051 - Posted: 10 Sep 2016, 1:17:30 UTC - in response to Message 1816046.  

What scheme do you propose to restore the ice cap to some standard ??


here's a "cockamamey scheme " how about we put a hole load of the snow making machines on the highest pecks and rain fresh made snow over them :)

To late to stop the North pole but we may be able to slow down the south before it does actually melt big time .


What will you use to power them and otherwise keep them running? Fossil fuels? ;)
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Message 1816118 - Posted: 10 Sep 2016, 8:03:39 UTC - in response to Message 1816051.  
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North pole ice melting will not raise water levels in the Tibetan plateau nor anywhere else for that matter.


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Message 1816126 - Posted: 10 Sep 2016, 8:41:19 UTC - in response to Message 1816118.  
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Rufus and friend migrating from Arctis to Antarctis.
They want to meet some penguins!

Let's hope that the "iceberg" won't melt before arrival...
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Message 1816577 - Posted: 12 Sep 2016, 4:00:45 UTC - in response to Message 1816051.  

What will you use to power them and otherwise keep them running? Fossil fuels? ;)


That's not a big problem we can put a load off solar panels on a few balloons . Tether them to the top of the mountain peek and let them rise about 500 meters above the peek so they are always in the sunshine and no problem there will be snow all year round .

I better write this down and submit it to the pending office before someone steals my idea or send it to a publisher so I am protected buy copyright
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Message 1816579 - Posted: 12 Sep 2016, 4:04:24 UTC - in response to Message 1816118.  

North pole ice melting will not raise water levels in the Tibetan plateau nor anywhere else for that matter.


No not on the Tibetan Plateau but you do realise that Greenland's ice sheet is part of the polar cap and when that is gone expect the sea levels to rise approx. 1-3 meters .
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Message 1817257 - Posted: 15 Sep 2016, 3:16:07 UTC


I think you'll find it's a bit more complicated than that ...

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Message 1817262 - Posted: 15 Sep 2016, 4:23:32 UTC - in response to Message 1817257.  

@bobby:
Are you like saying that I should dump all my snow-shovel futures?


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Message 1817437 - Posted: 16 Sep 2016, 0:48:31 UTC - in response to Message 1817262.  

@bobby:
Are you like saying that I should dump all my snow-shovel futures?


Invest in Noah's Ark and Aircon, a scary number of Uzies and LOTS of ammo 'Rambo-style', ... and a strong belief in your favoured deity...


Or...

Get real?...

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Message 1817494 - Posted: 16 Sep 2016, 6:17:24 UTC

Good post Bobby just goes to show all them Climate sceptics that the warming is man made and Co2 will kill us all if we don't act now .It's not the heat that will kill us but the lack of O2 that will lead us into killing our self's .

And that is the real danger as the Co2 goes up we will make the wrong decisions and do stupid things . That is what happens when there is not enough O2

So unless we do something now WW3 is going to happen 100% and quicker than people think .

I got $1000 on we not making it past 2040 for the above reason
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Message 1817518 - Posted: 16 Sep 2016, 10:34:55 UTC - in response to Message 1817437.  

Interesting time line but obviously bogus as far as temperature goes. Changing the temperature a few degrees colder would not bring mile-high glaciers back to Illinois.
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Message 1817532 - Posted: 16 Sep 2016, 11:57:57 UTC - in response to Message 1817518.  

Interesting time line but obviously bogus as far as temperature goes. Changing the temperature a few degrees colder would not bring mile-high glaciers back to Illinois.

And your proof is?
Because those temperatures are in line with what NASA says.
http://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/Features/GlobalWarming/page3.php
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Message 1817549 - Posted: 16 Sep 2016, 14:23:20 UTC - in response to Message 1817518.  

Interesting time line but obviously bogus as far as temperature goes. Changing the temperature a few degrees colder would not bring mile-high glaciers back to Illinois.


Emm the temps are average temps and -4 to +4 degrees is a massive difference .

The Earth is sposed to be cooling not heating simply because the orbit of the Earth over the last 22,000 years

Want to guess what will happen when the Earths orbit starts to heat us up again ??
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Message 1817551 - Posted: 16 Sep 2016, 14:45:10 UTC - in response to Message 1817532.  
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and your proof is ?



The proof is easy; just look North to where you find the first stable glacier. What is the average temp there. Subtract it from the average temp in Carbondale Illinois where I can attest is approximately where the glaciers reached--I have seen the terminal moraines near that Latitude there while backpacking in the Shawnee National Forest. Compare this to the temps indicated on the time line where the glaciers started to retreat and you will have your answer.

Quod Erat Demonstrandum[/quote]
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Message 1817556 - Posted: 16 Sep 2016, 15:09:30 UTC - in response to Message 1817551.  
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The proof is easy; just look North to where you find the first stable glacier. What is the average temp there. Subtract it from the average temp in Carbondale Illinois where I can attest is approximately where the glaciers reached--I have seen the terminal moraines near that Latitude there while backpacking in the Shawnee National Forest. Compare this to the temps indicated on the time line where the glaciers started to retreat and you will have your answer.

Quod Erat Demonstrandum



And you have the exact date the glaziers retreated at the point on the rock you where looking at ?

Your logic for the average temp is funny , lowest temp in Illinois recorded January 15, 2009, at Rochelle and was -38 C mmm seems like Glaziers would form rather quickly if the average temps dropped a few degrees it's cold enough still today
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Message 1817565 - Posted: 16 Sep 2016, 15:58:30 UTC - in response to Message 1817556.  


The proof is easy; just look North to where you find the first stable glacier. What is the average temp there. Subtract it from the average temp in Carbondale Illinois where I can attest is approximately where the glaciers reached--I have seen the terminal moraines near that Latitude there while backpacking in the Shawnee National Forest. Compare this to the temps indicated on the time line where the glaciers started to retreat and you will have your answer.

Quod Erat Demonstrandum



And you have the exact date the glaziers retreated at the point on the rock you where looking at ?

Your logic for the average temp is funny , lowest temp in Illinois recorded January 15, 2009, at Rochelle and was -38 C mmm seems like Glaziers would form rather quickly if the average temps dropped a few degrees it's cold enough still today

Snort. Chortle. You do know Illinois is north of the equator. You need the average temperature in August not January. Or did you know where it is but chose to ignore that a glacier has to be year round?

I wonder why that date range was cherry picked ... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Axial_precession
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Message 1817566 - Posted: 16 Sep 2016, 16:02:16 UTC - in response to Message 1817518.  

Interesting time line but obviously bogus as far as temperature goes. Changing the temperature a few degrees colder would not bring mile-high glaciers back to Illinois.

The retreat of glaciers since 1850 affects the availability of fresh water for irrigation and domestic use, mountain recreation, animals and plants that depend on glacier-melt, and, in the longer term, the level of the oceans.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Retreat_of_glaciers_since_1850
Do you know how many people on this earth that are depended of glaciers?
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Message 1817711 - Posted: 17 Sep 2016, 0:34:57 UTC

oops

"It's hard to trust them when they say 'Don't worry,' when they've been keeping it secret for three weeks."

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Message 1817747 - Posted: 17 Sep 2016, 3:11:48 UTC - in response to Message 1817565.  

You do know Illinois is north of the equator


In America .


Your right the average is from the equator , that's why 4 C plus or minus is a big thing when talking average temps

Why is progression cherry picking numbers . it happens and fits the record no cherry picking , facts are facts

I think you may find the chart here amongst other info

https://www.co2.earth/
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