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Darth Beaver Send message Joined: 20 Aug 99 Posts: 6728 Credit: 21,443,075 RAC: 3 |
What scheme do you propose to restore the ice cap to some standard ?? here's a "cockamamey scheme " how about we put a hole load of the snow making machines on the highest pecks and rain fresh made snow over them :) To late to stop the North pole but we may be able to slow down the south before it does actually melt big time . |
celttooth Send message Joined: 21 Nov 99 Posts: 26503 Credit: 28,583,098 RAC: 0 |
Ice loss in the arctic is not our fault, it's them crazy Europeans chipping it all up for use in party drinks! edit: You won't take the seals, but you don't mind taking the ice they live on..... |
KWSN - MajorKong Send message Joined: 5 Jan 00 Posts: 2892 Credit: 1,499,890 RAC: 0 |
What scheme do you propose to restore the ice cap to some standard ?? What will you use to power them and otherwise keep them running? Fossil fuels? ;) https://youtu.be/iY57ErBkFFE #Texit Don't blame me, I voted for Johnson(L) in 2016. Truth is dangerous... especially when it challenges those in power. |
William Rothamel Send message Joined: 25 Oct 06 Posts: 3756 Credit: 1,999,735 RAC: 4 |
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janneseti Send message Joined: 14 Oct 09 Posts: 14106 Credit: 655,366 RAC: 0 |
Rufus and friend migrating from Arctis to Antarctis. They want to meet some penguins! Let's hope that the "iceberg" won't melt before arrival... |
Darth Beaver Send message Joined: 20 Aug 99 Posts: 6728 Credit: 21,443,075 RAC: 3 |
What will you use to power them and otherwise keep them running? Fossil fuels? ;) That's not a big problem we can put a load off solar panels on a few balloons . Tether them to the top of the mountain peek and let them rise about 500 meters above the peek so they are always in the sunshine and no problem there will be snow all year round . I better write this down and submit it to the pending office before someone steals my idea or send it to a publisher so I am protected buy copyright |
Darth Beaver Send message Joined: 20 Aug 99 Posts: 6728 Credit: 21,443,075 RAC: 3 |
North pole ice melting will not raise water levels in the Tibetan plateau nor anywhere else for that matter. No not on the Tibetan Plateau but you do realise that Greenland's ice sheet is part of the polar cap and when that is gone expect the sea levels to rise approx. 1-3 meters . |
bobby Send message Joined: 22 Mar 02 Posts: 2866 Credit: 17,789,109 RAC: 3 |
I think you'll find it's a bit more complicated than that ... |
celttooth Send message Joined: 21 Nov 99 Posts: 26503 Credit: 28,583,098 RAC: 0 |
@bobby: Are you like saying that I should dump all my snow-shovel futures? |
ML1 Send message Joined: 25 Nov 01 Posts: 20289 Credit: 7,508,002 RAC: 20 |
@bobby: Invest in Noah's Ark and Aircon, a scary number of Uzies and LOTS of ammo 'Rambo-style', ... and a strong belief in your favoured deity... Or... Get real?... All on our only one planet, Martin See new freedom: Mageia Linux Take a look for yourself: Linux Format The Future is what We all make IT (GPLv3) |
Darth Beaver Send message Joined: 20 Aug 99 Posts: 6728 Credit: 21,443,075 RAC: 3 |
Good post Bobby just goes to show all them Climate sceptics that the warming is man made and Co2 will kill us all if we don't act now .It's not the heat that will kill us but the lack of O2 that will lead us into killing our self's . And that is the real danger as the Co2 goes up we will make the wrong decisions and do stupid things . That is what happens when there is not enough O2 So unless we do something now WW3 is going to happen 100% and quicker than people think . I got $1000 on we not making it past 2040 for the above reason |
William Rothamel Send message Joined: 25 Oct 06 Posts: 3756 Credit: 1,999,735 RAC: 4 |
Interesting time line but obviously bogus as far as temperature goes. Changing the temperature a few degrees colder would not bring mile-high glaciers back to Illinois. |
W-K 666 Send message Joined: 18 May 99 Posts: 19062 Credit: 40,757,560 RAC: 67 |
Interesting time line but obviously bogus as far as temperature goes. Changing the temperature a few degrees colder would not bring mile-high glaciers back to Illinois. And your proof is? Because those temperatures are in line with what NASA says. http://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/Features/GlobalWarming/page3.php |
Darth Beaver Send message Joined: 20 Aug 99 Posts: 6728 Credit: 21,443,075 RAC: 3 |
Interesting time line but obviously bogus as far as temperature goes. Changing the temperature a few degrees colder would not bring mile-high glaciers back to Illinois. Emm the temps are average temps and -4 to +4 degrees is a massive difference . The Earth is sposed to be cooling not heating simply because the orbit of the Earth over the last 22,000 years Want to guess what will happen when the Earths orbit starts to heat us up again ?? |
William Rothamel Send message Joined: 25 Oct 06 Posts: 3756 Credit: 1,999,735 RAC: 4 |
and your proof is ? The proof is easy; just look North to where you find the first stable glacier. What is the average temp there. Subtract it from the average temp in Carbondale Illinois where I can attest is approximately where the glaciers reached--I have seen the terminal moraines near that Latitude there while backpacking in the Shawnee National Forest. Compare this to the temps indicated on the time line where the glaciers started to retreat and you will have your answer. Quod Erat Demonstrandum[/quote] |
Darth Beaver Send message Joined: 20 Aug 99 Posts: 6728 Credit: 21,443,075 RAC: 3 |
And you have the exact date the glaziers retreated at the point on the rock you where looking at ? Your logic for the average temp is funny , lowest temp in Illinois recorded January 15, 2009, at Rochelle and was -38 C mmm seems like Glaziers would form rather quickly if the average temps dropped a few degrees it's cold enough still today |
Gary Charpentier Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 30651 Credit: 53,134,872 RAC: 32 |
Snort. Chortle. You do know Illinois is north of the equator. You need the average temperature in August not January. Or did you know where it is but chose to ignore that a glacier has to be year round? I wonder why that date range was cherry picked ... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Axial_precession |
janneseti Send message Joined: 14 Oct 09 Posts: 14106 Credit: 655,366 RAC: 0 |
Interesting time line but obviously bogus as far as temperature goes. Changing the temperature a few degrees colder would not bring mile-high glaciers back to Illinois. The retreat of glaciers since 1850 affects the availability of fresh water for irrigation and domestic use, mountain recreation, animals and plants that depend on glacier-melt, and, in the longer term, the level of the oceans. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Retreat_of_glaciers_since_1850 Do you know how many people on this earth that are depended of glaciers? |
Sirius B Send message Joined: 26 Dec 00 Posts: 24879 Credit: 3,081,182 RAC: 7 |
oops "It's hard to trust them when they say 'Don't worry,' when they've been keeping it secret for three weeks." Florida sinkhole |
Darth Beaver Send message Joined: 20 Aug 99 Posts: 6728 Credit: 21,443,075 RAC: 3 |
You do know Illinois is north of the equator In America . Your right the average is from the equator , that's why 4 C plus or minus is a big thing when talking average temps Why is progression cherry picking numbers . it happens and fits the record no cherry picking , facts are facts I think you may find the chart here amongst other info https://www.co2.earth/ |
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