But you see the problem. Africa is still growing very fast.
Where will they go? Everybody knows the answer.

Darwin begin to operate. They kill each other in civil wars today, soon to be food wars of tomorrow. Where do they go? Ask that of the anti-immigration forces in nearly every industrialized country.

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But you see the problem. Africa is still growing very fast.
Where will they go? Everybody knows the answer.

Darwin begin to operate. They kill each other in civil wars today, soon to be food wars of tomorrow. Where do they go? Ask that of the anti-immigration forces in nearly every industrialized country.

Survival of the fittest. Not the strongest! A big army is not enough.
Fortress Europe is already here.

Herbert Spencer first used the phrase – after reading Charles Darwin's On the Origin of Species – in his Principles of Biology (1864), in which he drew parallels between his own economic theories and Darwin's biological ones, writing, "This survival of the fittest, which I have here sought to express in mechanical terms, is that which Mr. Darwin has called 'natural selection', or the preservation of favoured races in the struggle for life."

I don't know what the rest of the world is gonna do, but my plan is to keep living where ALL the water WEST of the Mississippi River, and most of the water that flows down the Mississippi comes from.



Hence one meaning of my signature line...

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I don't know what the rest of the world is gonna do, but my plan is to keep living where ALL the water WEST of the Mississippi River, and most of the water that flows down the Mississippi comes from.
Hence one meaning of my signature line...

Good move DG:)

Clyde I saw this:)
Florida climate scientists have been silenced by their governor and his political appointees. Jeb Bush used to govern Florida and he is a national leader for his party. Urge him to stand up for science today.

I despise the present Governor of Florida. A Right Wing, Corrupt, SOB.

Jeb Bush appears to be an Intelligent 'Middle of The Roader'. As I am, of course.

Let's see what Jeb's response to this insanity is.

WTF ! Clyde Jeb Bush is middle of the road !!!!!!!

Like gran-pa or his uncle .....mmm Bush senior stuffed up in the first Iraq war by not hanging Saddam when he had the chance and Jnr , well we are still dealing with his mess and you whant to give them a 3rd chance to stuff things up .

Of all your posts this one is the one that proves you are not smart at all and maybe there is something about only smart people should be allowed to vote

God help us all if another Bush comes to power .

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Clyde I saw this:)
Florida climate scientists have been silenced by their governor and his political appointees. Jeb Bush used to govern Florida and he is a national leader for his party. Urge him to stand up for science today.
I despise the present Governor of Florida. A Right Wing, Corrupt, SOB.
Jeb Bush appears to be an Intelligent 'Middle of The Roader'. As I am, of course.
Let's see what Jeb's response to this insanity is.

WTF ! Clyde Jeb Bush is middle of the road !!!!!!!
Like gran-pa or his uncle .....mmm Bush senior stuffed up in the first Iraq war by not hanging Saddam when he had the chance and Jnr , well we are still dealing with his mess and you whant to give them a 3rd chance to stuff things up .
Of all your posts this one is the one that proves you are not smart at all and maybe there is something about only smart people should be allowed to vote
God help us all if another Bush comes to Power.

LOL.
And the Bush family has very good friends in Saudi Arabia who are VERY rich and maybe the biggest construction firm in the World.
Who are they and where do the operate?

HeHeHe.

He wishes to Legalize ALL Illegal Immigrants (perhaps 15,000,000) including Path to American Citizenship.
And yes. I agree with him.

Now I'm really surpriced.
That is really good news.

There is a god after all...

Jeb is disliked, evev hated by the American Right and Republican Coservatives.

One, of many examples...

He wishes to Legalize ALL Illegal Immigrants (perhaps 15,000,000) including Path to American Citizenship.

Your right i don't and if he is a lefty as you say that's good but realy , you want to give that family a 3rd chance ?

Even if Jeb is a middle roader as you say i just can'r believe that if he get's in he will not change as bush senior and Jnr will be in his ear advising him and sorry i don't think he would be any better than the last 2

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I spose you got me there mate . Jeb maybe better than the greedy fascist Republicans seeing as i'm worried if Clinton get up not that she would be any less a candidate than Jeb .

I just don't think now is the right time for a woman to be a president and it's not because i'm against women being presidents i'm worried for another reason .

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I spose you got me there mate . Jeb maybe better than the greedy fascist Republicans seeing as i'm worried if Clinton get up not that she would be any less a candidate than Jeb .

I just don't think now is the right time for a woman to be a president and it's not because i'm against women being presidents i'm worried for another reason .

If I may clarify an earlier post, the reason Geo H. W. Bush didn't "hang Saddam" during the first Gulf War is the UN Mandate called for the expulsion of Iraqi forces from Kuwait and the restoration of that countries sovereign government. That task was accomplished and the Coalition forces were withdrawn.

As for the US being ready for a woman President, I have no problem as long as she is elected due to her abilities and accomplishments, but not because she IS a woman. (Accomplishments disqualifies HRC).

I personally would like to see a Scott Walker/Marco Rubio Republican ticket. Or possibly a combination that includes Dr Ben Carson or even Rand Paul. We need healing, not more divisiveness.

Organizers.......organize.

Leaders build teams from diverse viewpoints.

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Great shame the Denialists cannot see CO2 pollution in the same very visible way as can be seen for some of the other polluting industrial and transport exhaust...


Paris imposes car restrictions to fight pollution

... On Monday the number of cars on the road in Paris will be cut in half - only motorists with odd-numbered plates will be allowed to drive.

Public transportation will be free as well car-sharing and bike-sharing programmes...




By a similar token effort, can we quickly reduce our industrial emissions by half for the good of all?...


All on our only one planet,
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By a similar token effort, can we quickly reduce our industrial emissions by half for the good of all?...

Everyone born on an even numbered day, report to the extermination station .....

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By a similar token effort, can we quickly reduce our industrial emissions by half for the good of all?...

Everyone born on an even numbered day, report to the extermination station .....

Sheeesh!... I was using that as a positive example of what "political will" can do, and quickly.

No mention there of an arbitrary pogrom!


Can we continue to deny that we must live sustainably in harmony with our planet, rather than blindly and ignorantly raping all resources to then pollute ourselves to hell?


Even some in China are beginning to dare to speak out:

Climate change: China official warns of 'huge impact'

Climate change could have a "huge impact" on China, reducing crop yields and harming the environment, the country's top weather scientist has warned, in a rare official admission.

Zheng Guogang told Xinhua news agency that climate change could be a "serious threat" to big infrastructure projects.

He said temperature rises in China were already higher than global averages.

China, the world's biggest polluter, has said its emissions of gases that cause climate change will peak by 2030. However, the country has not set a specific target for cutting emissions of the gases, mainly carbon dioxide...

... China's leaders have acknowledged the damage from global warming but they usually do not lay out the full scale of the problems...



All on our only one planet,
Martin

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Clyde I saw this:)
Florida climate scientists have been silenced by their governor and his political appointees. Jeb Bush used to govern Florida and he is a national leader for his party. Urge him to stand up for science today.

I despise the present Governor of Florida. A Right Wing, Corrupt, SOB.

Jeb Bush appears to be an Intelligent 'Middle of The Roader'. As I am, of course.

Let's see what Jeb's response to this insanity is.

WTF ! Clyde Jeb Bush is middle of the road !!!!!!!

Like gran-pa or his uncle .....mmm Bush senior stuffed up in the first Iraq war by not hanging Saddam when he had the chance and Jnr , well we are still dealing with his mess and you whant to give them a 3rd chance to stuff things up .

Of all your posts this one is the one that proves you are not smart at all and maybe there is something about only smart people should be allowed to vote

God help us all if another Bush comes to power .

Who are you thinking about, Glenn?

This guy?


Or this one?


The 2nd one is Jeb Bush, son of George H.W. Bush (Bush the Elder) and brother of George W. Bush (Bush the Younger).

The 1st one is George P. Bush, son of Jeb Bush.

And, yes, Jeb is a moderate (middle of the road), like his father.

Dubya (Bush the Younger) is somewhat of a center-leaning liberal. Witness Dubya's two signature pieces of legislation he was able to get passed. Medicare Part D (expanded federal medical care for the elderly to include prescription drugs), and NCLB (No Child Left Behind -- a vast 'big government' federal power grab into an area traditionally left to State and Local control in the USA).

One misconception that many people have is that in the USA, The Republican party is Conservative and the Democrat party is Liberal. This is not totally the case. Each party has a continuum of people belonging to it. I personally know some 'Yellow-Dog' (life-long) Democrats that are way more conservative than some 'Dyed-in-the-wool' (life-long) Republicans I personally know.

The Democrats *used* to be (even in my lifetime) the Conservative party, and the Republicans *used* to be the Liberal party. The transition to the current status quo was not complete until the Johnson vs. Goldwater US Presidential campaign of 1964.

The last somewhat Conservative President we have had in the USA (Ronald Reagan) when asked why he switched from the Democrat Party to the Republican Party, answered that he didn't leave the Democrat party, the Democrat party left him.

Remember, 'liberal' vs. 'conservative' is not really synonymous with 'left' vs. 'right'.

US Politics (as is, in my opinion, the Politics in all other nations as well) a very murky business.

Well, here in Texas, we have a saying:

There is nothing in the middle of the road except yellow stripes and dead armadillos.

At least the non-moderates and non-centrists have the courage of their convictions. You kinda know what you are getting. Moderates and centrists, however, decide what to support and do on any given day based on which way the political wind is blowing that day, Their politics is close to the proverbial 'Forrest Gump box of chocolates'. You never know what you are gonna get.

Reagan: Conservative Centrist.
Bush the Elder: Moderate Centrist.
Clinton: Moderate Leftist.
Bush the Younger: Liberal Centrist.
Obama: Liberal Leftist.

'Moderate' is middle of the road on Liberal vs. Conservative.
'Centrist' is middle of the road on Left vs. Right.

Back on topic:

God help us all if another Bush comes to power .

Yep. The Bushes (especially Bush the Elder) made a LOT of money in the oil industry, and still have strong ties to it.

The USA (and indeed the World) has already suffered for 12 years of Bush-itis (as well as a host of other Presidential 'diseases' -- Clinton-osis or Obama-oma). Do we really need another 4, 8, 12, or 16 years of Bush-itis?

Remember, it could very well be Jeb in 2016 and or 2020, and 'George P.' in 2024 and 2028 or in 2028 and 2032.

Urgh... I can see the Presidential nickname now. Remember how Bush the Younger is called 'Dubya'... Well, Jeb's son George Prescott Bush would be known as 'Pee'... <shudder>

I didn't support the previous 2 Bushes for any political office, except in 1980 I kinda had to vote for Bush the Elder for Vice-President when I voted for Ronald Reagan for President. A mistake I did NOT repeat in 1984. And I am not going to support any other ones for any political office.

I don't think any more Bushes would be good for the US (or the rest of the World, politically, economically, or even environmentally.

Even some in China are beginning to dare to speak out:
Climate change: China official warns of 'huge impact'
Climate change could have a "huge impact" on China, reducing crop yields and harming the environment, the country's top weather scientist has warned, in a rare official admission.
Zheng Guogang told Xinhua news agency that climate change could be a "serious threat" to big infrastructure projects.
He said temperature rises in China were already higher than global averages.
China, the world's biggest polluter, has said its emissions of gases that cause climate change will peak by 2030. However, the country has not set a specific target for cutting emissions of the gases, mainly carbon dioxide...
... China's leaders have acknowledged the damage from global warming but they usually do not lay out the full scale of the problems...

Desertification. That the earth's water reserves dry up from below is an equally serious cause of Earth's temperature increase of carbon emissions, writes Anna Löfdahl

Approximately 90 percent of China's 400 million hectares of grassland have been withdrawn, deteriorated or been affected according to an official at the country's agriculture ministry.
In connection with the statement China also stated that they would spend the next ten years to stop this trend by giving priority to the protection of the environment.
China's government promised tax breaks for businesses in the area devoted to environmentally friendly activities, or have come up with technological innovations in the field.
It will also provide subsidies to herders in northern and western China, whose animals cannot graze of the dwindling grasslands.
"Despite the government's efforts to protect these areas, challenges remain to protect the grasslands of increased human activity, desertification and disasters caused by mice and other pests," the China Daily says.

By a similar token effort, can we quickly reduce our industrial emissions by half for the good of all?...

Everyone born on an even numbered day, report to the extermination station .....

Sheeesh!... I was using that as a positive example of what "political will" can do, and quickly.

No mention there of an arbitrary pogrom!

Today the ban is even plates, tomorrow odd. Arbitrary.

Quick, so we shut half the power grid and half the heating gas off by even and odd.

Martin, you deny the enormity of the problem. Quick and sufficient on a world wide scale is not possible. As long as people like you live in an alternate reality no actual solution will come forward.

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... Quick, so we shut half the power grid and half the heating gas off by even and odd.

Or we double efficiency or we halve the waste or otherwise just simply clean up our act and move more quickly to sustainability rather than corrupt pervasive assumed perpetual growth...

... deny the enormity of the problem. Quick and sufficient on a world wide scale is not possible. As long as ... you live in an alternate reality no actual solution will come forward.

The enormity of the problem is the change in politics and culture and better education that is needed so that people can better appreciate and follow sustainable living.

The biggest barrier to that appears to be corrupt no-morals business 'interests' and the apathy of general ignorance...

But then, such is the world of Marketing and politics and exploitation and our world-be-damned...


A Revolution needed to come clean?


All on our only one planet,
Martin

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Part of the corrupt lobbying to be allowed to more freely and easily pollute?...



UK fracking industry calls for new regulator

... "Britain has one of the most robust set of regulations in the world for shale gas," a government spokesperson said. "Both the Health and Safety Executive and the Environment Agency have full authority and responsibility to monitor all shale sites - independent of the industry," the spokesperson, from the Department of Energy and Climate Change, added.

But the taskforce, which is funded by shale companies...

... "If the industry develops and the number of applications rises, there will be a need for a single, simplified system," Lord Smith added.

He said the new regulator would also involve the local community in the monitoring process and assess the integrity of wells to make sure any problems that could lead to leaks are discovered and remedied....


And that is all before even considering the CO2 pollution and all the additional pollution from leaking methane... (With ongoing practices in the USA a very big bad example...)


To me, that all sounds like the present regulator is doing a good job to limit the excesses of new pollution!


All on our only one planet,
Martin

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... Quick, so we shut half the power grid and half the heating gas off by even and odd.

Or we double efficiency or we halve the waste or otherwise just simply clean up our act and move more quickly to sustainability rather than corrupt pervasive assumed perpetual growth...
Martin

I hope the Earth will grow/grow up before the revolution.

perpetual growth...

Or you come to realize we have already grown far beyond sustainable numbers.

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