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Message 1603163 - Posted: 20 Nov 2014, 16:27:13 UTC - in response to Message 1602748.  

Yep, getting some tasks here 2, but why does Rosetta work always want to go into high priority mode whenever I get SETI work? :-O

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I just found with BOINC 7.2.42 that with a backup projects it stops working on the backup project as soon as work is received for a non-backup project.
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Message 1603206 - Posted: 20 Nov 2014, 18:21:27 UTC - in response to Message 1603163.  

I just found with BOINC 7.2.42 that with a backup projects it stops working on the backup project as soon as work is received for a non-backup project.


I haven't seen that. One of my CPU-only host is still working with backup project (S@H beta). 1/6 cores are working with S@H, and host has 36 S@H workunits ready to start.
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Message 1603215 - Posted: 20 Nov 2014, 18:28:52 UTC - in response to Message 1603163.  

Yep, getting some tasks here 2, but why does Rosetta work always want to go into high priority mode whenever I get SETI work? :-O

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I just found with BOINC 7.2.42 that with a backup projects it stops working on the backup project as soon as work is received for a non-backup project.


How does Boinc determine which is a backup project, and which isn't?

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Message 1603216 - Posted: 20 Nov 2014, 18:33:00 UTC - in response to Message 1603215.  

Yep, getting some tasks here 2, but why does Rosetta work always want to go into high priority mode whenever I get SETI work? :-O

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I just found with BOINC 7.2.42 that with a backup projects it stops working on the backup project as soon as work is received for a non-backup project.


How does Boinc determine which is a backup project, and which isn't?

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Projects with Resource Share set to 0 are "backup projects".
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Message 1603234 - Posted: 20 Nov 2014, 19:51:17 UTC - in response to Message 1603206.  

I just found with BOINC 7.2.42 that with a backup projects it stops working on the backup project as soon as work is received for a non-backup project.


I haven't seen that. One of my CPU-only host is still working with backup project (S@H beta). 1/6 cores are working with S@H, and host has 36 S@H workunits ready to start.

I think I found how why it is doing that for me. My i7's download 8 tasks from their backup projects. However I am using an app_config.xml with <max_concurrent>4</max_concurrent> set. BOINC will finish the 4 tasks that it actively processing for the backup project while it downloads work for the main project. Then will start the main project tasks leaving the remaining 4 backup project tasks "ready to start".
I imagine the backup tasks would start again if BOINC went to high priority mode.
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Message 1603275 - Posted: 20 Nov 2014, 21:48:13 UTC

11/20/2014 8:53:13 AM | SETI@home | Project has no tasks available
11/20/2014 9:01:20 AM | SETI@home | Project has no tasks available
11/20/2014 9:06:28 AM | SETI@home | Project has no tasks available
11/20/2014 9:18:34 AM | SETI@home | Project has no tasks available
11/20/2014 9:23:41 AM | SETI@home | Project has no tasks available
11/20/2014 9:54:53 AM | SETI@home | Project has no tasks available
11/20/2014 10:16:09 AM | SETI@home | Project has no tasks available
11/20/2014 11:01:36 AM | SETI@home | Project has no tasks available
11/20/2014 11:53:08 AM | SETI@home | Project has no tasks available
11/20/2014 1:48:57 PM | SETI@home | Project has no tasks available
11/20/2014 2:13:06 PM | SETI@home | Project has no tasks available
11/20/2014 2:18:13 PM | SETI@home | Project has no tasks available
11/20/2014 2:32:19 PM | SETI@home | Project has no tasks available

Hopefully by next Thursday we all will have much to be Thankful for.........the Hope that Springs eternal........
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Message 1603278 - Posted: 20 Nov 2014, 22:02:34 UTC - in response to Message 1603275.  

Hopefully by next Thursday we all will have much to be Thankful for.........the Hope that Springs eternal........


Not sure about that...

...approx. 10 minutes ago while attempting to post, got this: - Fatal error: Cannot redeclare boinc_real_escape_string() (previously declared in /disks/carolyn/b/home/boincadm/projects/sah/html/inc/db.inc:177) in /disks/carolyn/b/home/boincadm/projects/sah/html/inc/boinc_db.inc on line 710
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Message 1603282 - Posted: 20 Nov 2014, 22:11:35 UTC

I've received 40 tasks here this morning and most of those were new 1's. :-)

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Message 1603286 - Posted: 20 Nov 2014, 22:19:04 UTC - in response to Message 1603282.  

I've received 40 tasks here this morning and most of those were new 1's. :-)

Cheers.



Same here, but about 400 though over last night, now down to 355. All CPU and most are a mix of _0 and _1. However not that many over the preceding last few days. Luck of the timing draw I guess.

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Message 1603302 - Posted: 20 Nov 2014, 22:42:55 UTC - in response to Message 1603278.  

Fatal error: Cannot redeclare boinc_real_escape_string() (previously declared in /disks/carolyn/b/home/boincadm/projects/sah/html/inc/db.inc:177) in /disks/carolyn/b/home/boincadm/projects/sah/html/inc/boinc_db.inc on line 710


I got the same message, but when I took the quotation marks out of the hope that springs eternal I was able to post.

Maybe it should be the hype that springs eternal within the breast of salesmen...
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Message 1603314 - Posted: 20 Nov 2014, 23:01:05 UTC - in response to Message 1603278.  

Hopefully by next Thursday we all will have much to be Thankful for.........the Hope that Springs eternal........


Not sure about that...

...approx. 10 minutes ago while attempting to post, got this: - Fatal error: Cannot redeclare boinc_real_escape_string() (previously declared in /disks/carolyn/b/home/boincadm/projects/sah/html/inc/db.inc:177) in /disks/carolyn/b/home/boincadm/projects/sah/html/inc/boinc_db.inc on line 710

I was getting that site wide about 90 min ago.
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Message 1603330 - Posted: 20 Nov 2014, 23:41:16 UTC

Looking at the cricket graphs it seems some more files have been found to send down the line.

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Message 1603335 - Posted: 20 Nov 2014, 23:56:27 UTC - in response to Message 1603330.  

Now the trick is will one of my GT430s get some, it is getting bored with Einstein.
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Message 1603642 - Posted: 21 Nov 2014, 16:26:29 UTC

My GT 630 has managed to get some new work, enough to keep it from asking Einstein (or do I have Einstein on NNT on that one..?) My i7 with the GT 440 has loaded up on as many Betas as it can get (they are actually available, if you're truly desperate for Seti) and hasn't contacted the Main server in days, which now that I think about it would be because I set a really high resource share at Beta so the Androids would prefer it.

Speaking of Beta, there have been various descriptions here of the scheduler sending computers different versions of cuda tasks to see which one works the best. Guys always say it takes 11 of each for it to decide. My i7 (the last I looked) has 19 cuda32s, 19 cuda 42s, and about 5 cuda50s. (I think it hasn't started on any of them yet because it's running Einsteins in HP.) Is 19 the real number, or is it different at Beta than Main?

(I presume these are being done on stock apps instead of Lunatics because Beta is technically a different project.)

Another question comes to mind: once the server decides on which stock app is the best, is it pretty likely that the same cuda version of the Lunatics apps will be the best for Main?
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Message 1603679 - Posted: 21 Nov 2014, 18:16:08 UTC

I was just looking through my pendings and noticed that there was apparently about a 2 hour period on Monday when either the validators or transitioners weren't doing their job. I've got quite a few WUs where there are no tasks "in progress", where the last host reported its task on 17 November between about 19:42 and 21:51 UTC, but apparently missed the validator, leaving the WU in "Completed, waiting for validation" status for both of us. Examples:

http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/workunit.php?wuid=1641206662
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/workunit.php?wuid=1641182095
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/workunit.php?wuid=1640583179

Apparently, these will have to wait for a "second chance" validation when the original deadline is reached.

I've also got at least one where the host which reported in that Monday window had a computation Error, which should have resulted in a _2 task being sent out, but it wasn't. To me, that doesn't seem like a validator issue, but perhaps a transitioner one? Here's that WU:

http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/workunit.php?wuid=1640765912

Has anybody else noticed WUs like this in their pendings?
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Message 1603688 - Posted: 21 Nov 2014, 19:16:32 UTC - in response to Message 1603679.  



Has anybody else noticed WUs like this in their pendings?


Yup, I've got about 14 v7 AP's awaiting validation since the 10th/11th of thiws month. I just assumed the validators were hiccuoing along with everything else ;-)

doubtless it'll sort itself out given time.

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Message 1603693 - Posted: 21 Nov 2014, 19:42:26 UTC - in response to Message 1603688.  



Has anybody else noticed WUs like this in their pendings?


Yup, I've got about 14 v7 AP's awaiting validation since the 10th/11th of thiws month. I just assumed the validators were hiccuoing along with everything else ;-)

doubtless it'll sort itself out given time.

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Actually, the APs are a separate issue, due to the AP database problems they've been having for several weeks. I should have been more explicit in specifying that the WUs that apparently missed the validators on Monday were MBs.
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Message 1603758 - Posted: 21 Nov 2014, 22:28:01 UTC

The scheduler is shutdown for some reason:

Fri 21 Nov 2014 22:24:56 GMT | SETI@home | update requested by user
Fri 21 Nov 2014 22:24:57 GMT | SETI@home | sched RPC pending: Requested by user
Fri 21 Nov 2014 22:24:57 GMT | SETI@home | [sched_op] Starting scheduler request
Fri 21 Nov 2014 22:24:57 GMT | SETI@home | Sending scheduler request: Requested by user.
Fri 21 Nov 2014 22:24:57 GMT | SETI@home | Requesting new tasks for CPU
Fri 21 Nov 2014 22:24:57 GMT | SETI@home | [sched_op] CPU work request: 640621.95 seconds; 0.00 devices
Fri 21 Nov 2014 22:24:57 GMT | SETI@home | [sched_op] NVIDIA work request: 0.00 seconds; 0.00 devices
Fri 21 Nov 2014 22:24:59 GMT | SETI@home | Scheduler request completed: got 0 new tasks
Fri 21 Nov 2014 22:24:59 GMT | SETI@home | Project is temporarily shut down for maintenance
Fri 21 Nov 2014 22:24:59 GMT | SETI@home | Project requested delay of 3600 seconds
Fri 21 Nov 2014 22:24:59 GMT | SETI@home | [sched_op] Deferring communication for 01:00:00
Fri 21 Nov 2014 22:24:59 GMT | SETI@home | [sched_op] Reason: project is down

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Message 1603768 - Posted: 21 Nov 2014, 22:58:35 UTC - in response to Message 1603758.  

The scheduler is shutdown for some reason:


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Possibly major surgery in progress?

Hopefully the patient will make a speedy recovery.
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Message 1603773 - Posted: 21 Nov 2014, 23:03:04 UTC

Switch to GBT maybe.


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