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Message 1594991 - Posted: 31 Oct 2014, 17:42:04 UTC

These maximum temps are shown by HW Monitor for my ASRock Z87 MB:
systin 37C
cputin 28C
auxtin 38C
tmpin3 75C

I assume the tmpin3 is directly behind the cpu. Is it too high?
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Message 1595573 - Posted: 1 Nov 2014, 14:45:52 UTC

I gave up on HW Monitor a couple of years ago when I found this monitor http://www.hwinfo.com/. I've found it to more detailed and I leave it up as a constant system monitor. Running with a 4770K on an ASRock Extreme 4 board, I found it to be extremely useful.


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Message 1595595 - Posted: 1 Nov 2014, 15:23:57 UTC - in response to Message 1595573.  

I gave up on HW Monitor a couple of years ago when I found this monitor http://www.hwinfo.com/. I've found it to more detailed and I leave it up as a constant system monitor. Running with a 4770K on an ASRock Extreme 4 board, I found it to be extremely useful.


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I'll try it out. It looks like an awful lot of detail.
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Message 1595626 - Posted: 1 Nov 2014, 16:41:29 UTC - in response to Message 1595595.  

I gave up on HW Monitor a couple of years ago when I found this monitor http://www.hwinfo.com/. I've found it to more detailed and I leave it up as a constant system monitor. Running with a 4770K on an ASRock Extreme 4 board, I found it to be extremely useful.


Thanks cliff,
I'll try it out. It looks like an awful lot of detail.


Yes, there is an awful lot of detail, but you can deselect what you don't what to monitor. In my case I've kept everything, and it really doesn't use that much of the system resources.


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Message 1595635 - Posted: 1 Nov 2014, 17:29:30 UTC

I wish someone would come out with a new version of the old Motherboard Monitor. It was a great tool.
I use CPUID's HWMonitor, HWINFO, & the software from my MB manufacture. Normally they all agree about everything, but each tool has it's own quirks. I don't run them constantly as I have everything in the system configured to run within acceptable parameters. So when I do run them I figure so long as 2 of them agree then that value is probably correct.
The 75ºC is probably a null sensor that HWMonitor is reading. Polling data in a sensor field when there is no sensor connected. Sometimes it hiccups & shows me a max temp of 254ºC, or fan speeds of 30000 RPM.
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Message 1595637 - Posted: 1 Nov 2014, 17:46:07 UTC

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Message 1596050 - Posted: 2 Nov 2014, 19:43:24 UTC - in response to Message 1595635.  

The 75ºC is probably a null sensor that HWMonitor is reading. Polling data in a sensor field when there is no sensor connected.

I think the same.
If this is always 75ºC (or jumps to 0 or strange values like -128°C)
despite if the computer is idle or loaded and the weather changes
- there is no real sensor connected to the pins of the sensor chip
 


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Message 1596072 - Posted: 2 Nov 2014, 20:24:04 UTC - in response to Message 1596050.  

The 75ºC is probably a null sensor that HWMonitor is reading. Polling data in a sensor field when there is no sensor connected.

I think the same.
If this is always 75ºC (or jumps to 0 or strange values like -128°C)
despite if the computer is idle or loaded and the weather changes
- there is no real sensor connected to the pins of the sensor chip


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Message 1600631 - Posted: 13 Nov 2014, 14:20:24 UTC - in response to Message 1594991.  

These maximum temps are shown by HW Monitor for my ASRock Z87 MB:
systin 37C
cputin 28C
auxtin 38C
tmpin3 75C

I assume the tmpin3 is directly behind the cpu. Is it too high?
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OK, but excluding the last # which may be a null. Are these temps at least in the ballpark for a full load on my MoBo?

I mean I haven't a clue if they should be 20C or 100C. At least give me some idea. Please.
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Message 1601341 - Posted: 15 Nov 2014, 7:04:59 UTC - in response to Message 1600631.  
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These maximum temps are shown by HW Monitor for my ASRock Z87 MB:
systin 37C
cputin 28C
auxtin 38C

You can see by yourself - there is something strange: cputin < systin (= CPU "is" cooler than the air inside the computer case)
So I will not believe this program

In SIV look:
- in the center - for CPU cores (internal) temperatures
- in the rightmost - for CPU package (external) temperature

If you have program from motherboard manufacturer (AsRock) - use that to compare the values to other programs
(in fact I had to 'work' with the author of SIV a few years ago.
He wanted a series of screenshots to see the movement of values simultaneously on several monitoring programs (ASRock OCTuner, SIV, HWiNFO32, Everest)
- so he can tweak SIV to my motherboard (which is AsRock from 2006) to show all the right values)


In BIOS - write down the temperatures, then (on idle computer) compare the values shown by programs - they should be nearly the same


By the way: do your new (replacement) PSU have +12 V more stable/high than the one you returned?
 


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Message 1601428 - Posted: 15 Nov 2014, 15:33:07 UTC - in response to Message 1601341.  
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These maximum temps are shown by HW Monitor for my ASRock Z87 MB:
systin 37C
cputin 28C
auxtin 38C

You can see by yourself - there is something strange: cputin < systin (= CPU "is" cooler than the air inside the computer case)
So I will not believe this program

In SIV look:
- in the center - for CPU cores (internal) temperatures
- in the rightmost - for CPU package (external) temperature

If you have program from motherboard manufacturer (AsRock) - use that to compare the values to other programs
(in fact I had to 'work' with the author of SIV a few years ago.
He wanted a series of screenshots to see the movement of values simultaneously on several monitoring programs (ASRock OCTuner, SIV, HWiNFO32, Everest)
- so he can tweak SIV to my motherboard (which is AsRock from 2006) to show all the right values)


In BIOS - write down the temperatures, then (on idle computer) compare the values shown by programs - they should be nearly the same


By the way: do your new (replacement) PSU have +12 V more stable/high than the one you returned?


Thanks BilBg,
My new PSU shows almost exactly what the old one did. On the new one I got the fan to turn off only by OCing the cpu. I found out that my watts at the outlet was only 345watts with everything running with the cpu at 4.0GHz. When I put the cpu at 4.4GHz is when I first saw the fan turn. So they are telling the truth about a silent fan.

I wrote a message here telling how I discovered something about the MoBo temps but it was censored for Obsenities because I used the word s##t. The MoBo will cut off automatically if the temp gets too high and so will the cpu. I did this cpu test at 4.4GHz and the machine shut off after about a half hour. It scared the you know what out of me it turn off so fast. Like x nanoseconds.

With the cooler weather I have the OC working at 4.6GHz and no problems. I am using the cpu only as a feeder for the gpu's though. This keeps the temp low but increases the utilization of the gpu somewhat.

There is something wrong with that cpuin sensor. Right now it is still at 28C even though sysin is 40C and auxin is 35C.

The siv is all mixed up when I run at 4.6GHz. It only shows the cpu cores which agrees with HWMonitor. HWMonitor shows 51C current, 76C maximum for the Package.

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Message 1603139 - Posted: 20 Nov 2014, 15:57:27 UTC - in response to Message 1595573.  

I gave up on HW Monitor a couple of years ago when I found this monitor http://www.hwinfo.com/. I've found it to more detailed and I leave it up as a constant system monitor. Running with a 4770K on an ASRock Extreme 4 board, I found it to be extremely useful.


Cliff, I wanted to come back to this and tell you thank you very much. This monitor is the one. No comparison to anything else. A little while ago I opened the sensor section. Where all the other monitors were having a hard time figuring out what was going on your monitor had it ALL. Beautiful!!
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Message 1603149 - Posted: 20 Nov 2014, 16:09:57 UTC

I also found this yesterday, when looking for alternatives for HWMonitor, because HWMonitor won't run on Windows 10 atm.
Yeah, this hwinfo thingy really looks interesting, although it's a lot more, then I need. I have to find out now how to configure it so it gives me just the infos I wanna see (core speed & temperature, GPU temp, HDD temp). And then I have to check how much cpu the program itself is consuming.
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