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Message 1592882 - Posted: 27 Oct 2014, 10:19:28 UTC

Backed the drivers to version 295.73 because of the known miscalculations over drivers past 340.52 and still not receiving any units for GPU. The newer machine with the Quadro FX 2800m is receiving packets on the same software version and older driver.

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Message 1592883 - Posted: 27 Oct 2014, 10:22:25 UTC - in response to Message 1592882.  

10/27/2014 5:09:47 AM Starting BOINC client version 6.10.17 for windows_intelx86
10/27/2014 5:09:47 AM log flags: file_xfer, sched_ops, task
10/27/2014 5:09:48 AM Libraries: libcurl/7.19.4 OpenSSL/0.9.8k zlib/1.2.3
10/27/2014 5:09:48 AM Data directory: C:\PortableApps\BOINCPortable\Data
10/27/2014 5:09:48 AM Running under account admin
10/27/2014 5:09:48 AM Processor: 2 GenuineIntel Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU T7500 @ 2.20GHz [x86 Family 6 Model 15 Stepping 10]
10/27/2014 5:09:48 AM Processor: 4.00 MB cache
10/27/2014 5:09:48 AM Processor features: fpu tsc pae sse sse2 pni mmx
10/27/2014 5:09:48 AM OS: Microsoft Windows 7: Ultimate x86 Edition, Service Pack 1, (06.01.7600.00)
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10/27/2014 5:09:48 AM Local time is UTC -5 hours
10/27/2014 5:09:48 AM NVIDIA GPU 0: Quadro FX 1600M (driver version 29573, CUDA version 4020, compute capability 1.1, 256MB, 80 GFLOPS peak)
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Message 1593022 - Posted: 27 Oct 2014, 17:40:54 UTC

295.73 is one of the drivers that had the sleep bug which also caused errors, I think almost all projects blacklisted it.

I would either go with 301.10 or 266.58

http://www.oldapps.com/nvidia.php?PageSpeed=noscript

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Message 1593027 - Posted: 27 Oct 2014, 17:49:45 UTC - in response to Message 1592882.  

By using an older BOINC you're also restricting yourself, as this doesn't allow for OpenCL applications to be used, if CUDA won't work. (By using an old beta BOINC client, you're further restricting yourself. In 6.10 it was 6.10.44 that was released to the public.)
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Message 1593074 - Posted: 27 Oct 2014, 19:25:52 UTC - in response to Message 1593027.  
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By using an older BOINC you're also restricting yourself, as this doesn't allow for OpenCL applications to be used, if CUDA won't work. (By using an old beta BOINC client, you're further restricting yourself. In 6.10 it was 6.10.44 that was released to the public.)



Why hasn't the project released a portable version? I only use portable apps, when at all possible, so I have OS independence and ease of upgrades.

Oh, and I seriously *HATE* that the message tab has been moved to an Event log that takes extra key strokes and doesn't dock with the main page. That alone was enough to put me back from 7.2 after trying it yesterday.
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Message 1593087 - Posted: 27 Oct 2014, 19:56:55 UTC - in response to Message 1593022.  

295.73 is one of the drivers that had the sleep bug which also caused errors, I think almost all projects blacklisted it.

I would either go with 301.10 or 266.58

http://www.oldapps.com/nvidia.php?PageSpeed=noscript


I'll switch drivers but it's actually running a v7 (cuda22) packet this afternoon.
Neither of the two versions you mention are available for the Quadro FX 1600m.
These are available:
259.57
266.45
267.79
276.14
276.52
296.10
301.42
305.93
306.23
306.97
320.49

BTW, where is the list of blacklisted drivers so I can look these up myself?
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Message 1593126 - Posted: 27 Oct 2014, 21:43:48 UTC - in response to Message 1593074.  

Oh, and I seriously *HATE* that the message tab has been moved to an Event log that takes extra key strokes and doesn't dock with the main page. That alone was enough to put me back from 7.2 after trying it yesterday.

Then get BOINC 6.10.60 which is the last from 6.10.x and have the same look as 6.10.17
http://boinc.berkeley.edu/dl/boinc_6.10.60_windows_intelx86.exe
http://boinc.berkeley.edu/dl/boinc_6.10.60_windows_x86_64.exe
 


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Message 1593134 - Posted: 27 Oct 2014, 21:51:23 UTC - in response to Message 1593087.  

Try 266.45
It will have low CPU usage especially for AstroPulse OpenCL

I don't know if some "list of blacklisted drivers" is published somewhere.
 


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Message 1593137 - Posted: 27 Oct 2014, 21:59:23 UTC - in response to Message 1593087.  

Also it seems you have issues with your BOINC installation (directory/files permissions)
or with your Antivirus (it may block execution of apps)

"CreateProcess() failed - Access is denied." (on 2 of your computers)
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/result.php?resultid=3796141759
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/result.php?resultid=3797738440
 


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Message 1593143 - Posted: 27 Oct 2014, 22:15:57 UTC - in response to Message 1593087.  


BTW, where is the list of blacklisted drivers so I can look these up myself?


This is the primary one from here.
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=69857

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Message 1593151 - Posted: 27 Oct 2014, 22:31:26 UTC - in response to Message 1593126.  
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Oh, and I seriously *HATE* that the message tab has been moved to an Event log that takes extra key strokes and doesn't dock with the main page. That alone was enough to put me back from 7.2 after trying it yesterday.

Then get BOINC 6.10.60 which is the last from 6.10.x and have the same look as 6.10.17
http://boinc.berkeley.edu/dl/boinc_6.10.60_windows_intelx86.exe
http://boinc.berkeley.edu/dl/boinc_6.10.60_windows_x86_64.exe


Thanks for your help.
Looks like PortableApps.com has dropped BOINC off the regular updated projects. I'll do manual installs again and even install the newest 7.x on one machine to try and get used to it.

EDIT: I tried it and it threw 30+ registry entries in and won't work under the portable apps folder structure. When I reboot into Linux/WINE or another Windows OS then the BOINC client isn't going to fire up and work immediately and I'm sick of reinstalling software every time I swap OS's.
Have to see about getting BOINC updating over at PortableApps.com
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Message 1593153 - Posted: 27 Oct 2014, 22:36:03 UTC - in response to Message 1593137.  
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Also it seems you have issues with your BOINC installation (directory/files permissions)
or with your Antivirus (it may block execution of apps)

"CreateProcess() failed - Access is denied." (on 2 of your computers)
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/result.php?resultid=3796141759
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/result.php?resultid=3797738440


That was early in the OS installation on both those laptops which are being dedicated to BOINC work for the winter. The firewall was still being trained and I wasn't at the keyboard. I added exclusions for the BOINC directory later.
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Message 1593154 - Posted: 27 Oct 2014, 22:39:49 UTC - in response to Message 1593143.  
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BTW, where is the list of blacklisted drivers so I can look these up myself?


This is the primary one from here.
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=69857


That helps, thanks.

The new problem with the computational errors for 340.xx+ are an addition.
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Message 1593207 - Posted: 28 Oct 2014, 1:08:26 UTC - in response to Message 1593151.  

EDIT: I tried it and it threw 30+ registry entries in and won't work under the portable apps folder structure. When I reboot into Linux/WINE or another Windows OS then the BOINC client isn't going to fire up and work immediately and I'm sick of reinstalling software every time I swap OS's.
Have to see about getting BOINC updating over at PortableApps.com

Well, you didn't say you use BOINC in this way - using the same directory/files in multi-boot system.
I used this in the past between Vista 32 bit and Windows XP - BOINC is installed on Vista and registry entries transferred to XP

BOINC installer can be unpacked by:
boinc_X.XX.XX_windows_intelx86.exe /a

http://boinc.berkeley.edu/wiki/Creating_custom_installers

Then you may rename or move the .exe/.dll files you use now and put the new files manually
(You may need to set some permissions manually)


I just tested this 'unpack' under Sandboxie
http://www.sandboxie.com/

(if you don't use Sandboxie I suggest you unpack to USB flash drive)











 
 


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Message 1593491 - Posted: 28 Oct 2014, 12:45:43 UTC - in response to Message 1593207.  

EDIT: I tried it and it threw 30+ registry entries in and won't work under the portable apps folder structure. When I reboot into Linux/WINE or another Windows OS then the BOINC client isn't going to fire up and work immediately and I'm sick of reinstalling software every time I swap OS's.
Have to see about getting BOINC updating over at PortableApps.com

Well, you didn't say you use BOINC in this way - using the same directory/files in multi-boot system.
I used this in the past between Vista 32 bit and Windows XP - BOINC is installed on Vista and registry entries transferred to XP

BOINC installer can be unpacked by:
boinc_X.XX.XX_windows_intelx86.exe /a

http://boinc.berkeley.edu/wiki/Creating_custom_installers

Then you may rename or move the .exe/.dll files you use now and put the new files manually
(You may need to set some permissions manually)
 


Tried installing the newer 6.10.60 BOINC client on the main multi-OS laptop (m6500) and copied the entire contents over to the portable directories and that failed to execute. I tried again after your post with just the exe/dll and it still failed, however, it worked on the m6300 Dell and you'll see it running 6.10.60 in my computers list now.

I'll strip out all registry references on Berkley, BOINC, etc, remove all install on this machine and start fresh and see if I can replicate it. I'll attempt the same with 7.2.x on the third machine and let you know.
Thanks for the help again.

Hopefully I'll be at combined 15,000 credits a day by the end of the week. Still pitiful, but the best I can offer.
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Message 1593783 - Posted: 29 Oct 2014, 10:49:46 UTC - in response to Message 1593491.  

copied the entire contents over to the portable directories and that failed to execute.

I don't know the structure of "portable directories"
I hope they are Not in \Program Files\ - especially the BOINC Data directory
Also some say you may have trouble if BOINC Data directory is inside BOINC Program directory

"failed to execute" - Which .exe? What error?


Check INSTALLDIR and DATADIR in your Registry:
Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Space Sciences Laboratory, U.C. Berkeley\BOINC Setup]
"INSTALLDIR"="H:\\BOINC\\"
"SETUPTYPE"="Single"
"LAUNCHPROGRAM"=""
"ENABLELAUNCHATLOGON"="0"
"ENABLESCREENSAVER"=""
"SERVICE_DOMAIN"=""
"SERVICE_USERNAME"=""
"SETUPSTATESTORED"="TRUE"
"MIGRATIONVERSION"=""
"MIGRATION"="TRUE"
"MIGRATIONDIR"="H:\\BOINC\\"
"RETURN_REBOOTREQUESTED"="0"
"REBOOTPROMPT"=""
"RETURN_VALIDATEINSTALL"="1"
"DATADIR"="H:\\BOINC-Data\\"
"ENABLEPROTECTEDAPPLICATIONEXECUTION"=""
"ENABLEUSEBYALLUSERS"=""
"ENABLEPROTECTEDAPPLICATIONEXECUTION2"=""


The other place is for GUI and is not really important:
[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Space Sciences Laboratory, U.C. Berkeley\BOINC Manager]
 


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Message 1594762 - Posted: 31 Oct 2014, 5:12:04 UTC - in response to Message 1593783.  

copied the entire contents over to the portable directories and that failed to execute.

I don't know the structure of "portable directories"
I hope they are Not in \Program Files\ - especially the BOINC Data directory
Also some say you may have trouble if BOINC Data directory is inside BOINC Program directory

"failed to execute" - Which .exe? What error?


I meant that the boincmgr.exe failed to pass the correct data directory location and so the whole process failed to start running data units. The registry had incorrect location info.

The point of this endeavor is to have no information stored in the registry so I can multi-boot OS, move the USB stick installation to another machine or upgrade to any new future OS while needing to reinstall the least possible applications.

The
boinc_installer.exe /v /a c:\temp
xcopy c:\temp\boinctemp\app\*.* e:\boincportable\app\boinc

actually modified the registry. When I tried to start the application it tried using c:\temp\boinctemp directory for data input.

I used the following batch file to erase any registry entries and start the boincmgr.exe from the data folder (without registry entries the boincmgr.exe or/and boinc.exe assume the current directory upon calling is the data directory) and it worked on 2 machines the first execution of the batch file after the unpack and copy.

boincstart.bat
REGEDIT4

; @ECHO OFF
; CLS
; SET BoincClient=E:\BoincPortable\App\BOINC
; SET BoincData=  E:\Boincportable\DATA
; CD /d %BoincData%
; REGEDIT /s "%~f0"
; REM START "" "%BoincClient%\boinc.exe"
; START "" "%BoincClient%\boincmgr.exe"
; EXIT

[-HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Installer\Folders]

[-HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Space Sciences Laboratory, U.C. Berkeley]


[-HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Space Sciences Laboratory, U.C. Berkeley]



On another thread someone told me the command line switches to pass to boincmgr.exe to reassign the data directory. He/she said it works on Linux so I'll try them on Windows.
boincmgr.exe --datadir=E:\boincportable\data
might be all I needed instead of that batch file.

So I have two portable installs, without registry information, of version 7.2.42 using that batch file and your help for the .msi unpack. The machine with the failing 2800m nVidia card is staying at version 6.10.60 (portable install) so it doesn't get a bunch of aborted GPU packets.

Thanks for the help.
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Message 1594765 - Posted: 31 Oct 2014, 5:17:02 UTC - in response to Message 1593027.  

By using an older BOINC you're also restricting yourself, as this doesn't allow for OpenCL applications to be used, if CUDA won't work. (By using an old beta BOINC client, you're further restricting yourself. In 6.10 it was 6.10.44 that was released to the public.)



;TLDR
Answer to the original question of why I'm not getting GPU units. Install version 7.

Very rare are regular CC 1.1 packets available (the machine running 6.10.60 did get a few), most of the ones coming down are OpenCL 1.0 and so once I got the portable 7.2.42 running on the machines they got OpenCL GPU work right away (after I reset the project on the one machine some baffling hours later).
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Message 1595502 - Posted: 1 Nov 2014, 10:47:06 UTC - in response to Message 1594762.  

The point of this endeavor is to have no information stored in the registry so I can multi-boot OS, move the USB stick installation to another machine or upgrade to any new future OS while needing to reinstall the least possible applications.

I wonder how you will manage to "multi-boot OS" between Windows and Linux?

Linux can't run the .exe files (boinc.exe, applications.exe)
Do you use emulator (Wine) or change apps (semi)manually?
If you change apps - the checkpoints may be not compatible.
(I almost don't know Linux)

Also on "another machine" with different CPU/GPU the same apps may not work even on Windows.


The
boinc_installer.exe /v /a c:\temp
xcopy c:\temp\boinctemp\app\*.* e:\boincportable\app\boinc

actually modified the registry.

If you used Sandboxie that would not happen.

boinc_installer (any program) will think it succeeded to change files and/or modify the registry
but in fact will modify objects only in Sandboxie directory.
 


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Message 1604472 - Posted: 23 Nov 2014, 9:45:54 UTC - in response to Message 1595502.  
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The point of this endeavor is to have no information stored in the registry so I can multi-boot OS, move the USB stick installation to another machine or upgrade to any new future OS while needing to reinstall the least possible applications.

I wonder how you will manage to "multi-boot OS" between Windows and Linux?

Linux can't run the .exe files (boinc.exe, applications.exe)
Do you use emulator (Wine) or change apps (semi)manually?
If you change apps - the checkpoints may be not compatible.
(I almost don't know Linux)

Also on "another machine" with different CPU/GPU the same apps may not work even on Windows.

Sorry for the late reply.

I hadn't worked on a Linux/Win dual boot solution but it's a CMD/DOS batch file so Wine would be required.
It's more about easing the transition in future upgrades from XP to Vista (on the ancient machines) 7, 8.1 or 10. Now that I determined if BOINC finds an empty registry it works just fine on Portable directory/USB stick it's not really a concern.

I have several laptops heating the bedroom, and I'm buying and selling off to upgrade my processing power. Was thinking just have USB stick with BOINC and Portable Apps for each and that batch file I wrote to keep registries clean when upgrading BOINC. I'll maintain each computer's BOINC separately because I don't want to have to lose work on resets from cloning the BOINCPortable folder across machines after upgrade.

The
boinc_installer.exe /v /a c:\temp
xcopy c:\temp\boinctemp\app\*.* e:\boincportable\app\boinc

actually modified the registry.

If you used Sandboxie that would not happen.

I didn't realize Sandboxie was critical to the process (keeping the registry clean), as you mentioned installing to a USB was an option, nor did I realize Sandboxie's wider usefulness. It will have much more use from me now that it's installed.

Thanks for adding another tool to my utilities.

Just in case not all machines have Sandboxie installed I'll keep the .BAT file that I settled into:
REGEDIT4

; @ECHO OFF
; CLS
; REGEDIT.exe /s "%~f0"
; cd /d data
; start "" "..\app\boinc\boincmgr.exe"
; EXIT

[-HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Space Sciences Laboratory, U.C. Berkeley]

[-HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Space Sciences Laboratory, U.C. Berkeley]

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