What kind of hardware update? Did you re-install the OS as part of this update?

What kind of hardware update? Did you re-install the OS as part of this update?

Mainboard (Asus Z97-P), 8GB Corsair XMS3 DDR3 1333 Mhz CL9 and Intel Core i5 4590S and a new Seagate Desktop 1TB, 7200rpm, 64MB, SATA3.

Yes I have installed a fresh WHS 2011 OS on this hardware.

Old situation: http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/show_host_detail.php?hostid=7165428

New situation: http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/show_host_detail.php?hostid=7417012

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What setting is Data Execution Prevention set to? All Windows Services or All Programs? If you haven't already, have you tried setting it to the Windows services option to see if that helps?

What setting is Data Execution Prevention set to? All Windows Services or All Programs? If you haven't already, have you tried setting it to the Windows services option to see if that helps?

DEP on my WHS 2011 is set to: DEP for all programs and services, the second option.

Yes I have installed the Boinc application as a service.

PS. This all goes a little further than my standard knowledge of Windows so it goes out of my comfort zone although I do understand what we are talking about.

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Test the computer with Linpack (which is Intel made program)

LinX - The simpliest Linpack interface (GUI)
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?201670-LinX-A-simple-Linpack-interface

Be warned: Linpack makes a heavy load on CPU - be prepared to watch the CPU temperature
LinX / Linpack tests CPU, RAM, bus between CPU and RAM, PSU (heavy load on CPU makes load on PSU +12 V)

Haha, funny...I ran a Asus system (stress test) benchmark yesterday evenening, no errors.

Never heard of the LinX program but I downloaded the latest version and tried it a few times, check the img.

http://s2.postimg.org/owycdxgu1/uitkomst_Lin_X1.jpg

Your computer have 'Memory 8069.23 MB'
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/show_host_detail.php?hostid=7417012

The above test was on less than 50% of RAM for only 5 minutes

Can you:
- exit all possible programs (to free max RAM)
- run test for 30-60 minutes (again: watch the CPU temperature (if your cooling is not enough))
(run the test on the as-is-now computer)

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"exit code -1073741819 (0xc0000005)" in random places show some subtle instability that do not manifest every time.

The problem may be caused by:
- faulty RAM cell which 'flips' bits from time to time
- too fast (= too low numbers in BIOS) RAM timings (if you did not set timings manually - try to disable in BIOS 'XMP profile' for test)
https://www.google.com/#q=ram+xmp

- bad contact of RAM in the slot (remove the RAM, clean contacts with alcohol, insert in different slot (swap the 2 DIMMs))

- CPU overclock
- CPU overheat

- unstable voltage from PSU +12 V
- bad contact of cables from PSU to MB
...

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- ALF - "Find out what you don't do well ..... then don't do it!" :)
 

Ok, 30 min LinX with more RAM, max temp with stock cooler +/- 80º Celcius (176.00ºF).

No overclocking for me.!

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What setting is Data Execution Prevention set to? All Windows Services or All Programs? If you haven't already, have you tried setting it to the Windows services option to see if that helps?

DEP on my WHS 2011 is set to: DEP for all programs and services, the second option.

Yes I have installed the Boinc application as a service.

PS. This all goes a little further than my standard knowledge of Windows so it goes out of my comfort zone although I do understand what we are talking about.

You should try changing DEP to Essential Windows Programs and Services only.

What setting is Data Execution Prevention set to? All Windows Services or All Programs? If you haven't already, have you tried setting it to the Windows services option to see if that helps?

DEP on my WHS 2011 is set to: DEP for all programs and services, the second option.

Yes I have installed the Boinc application as a service.

PS. This all goes a little further than my standard knowledge of Windows so it goes out of my comfort zone although I do understand what we are talking about.

You should try changing DEP to Essential Windows Programs and Services only.

Ok will do that for a trial run, will let you know 11-2-2014.

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Hm, happens again but not for all tasks:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/results.php?hostid=7417012&offset=0&show_names=0&state=6&appid=

- It may be BOINC for some reason killing apps, so you may try the latest 'Development version' 7.4.26
http://boinc.berkeley.edu/download_all.php


- It may also be broken app (corrupted .exe / .dll file)

If you send every .exe and .dll found in SETI@home directory (<BOINC_Data>\projects\setiathome.berkeley.edu\) to:
https://www.virustotal.com/en/

... and you are the first to send it - your file is probably corrupted
(usually you'll see "this file was already scanned")


If you want to get 'fresh' apps - you may 'Reset' the project.
Reset will delete all files (including tasks) in SETI@home directory (<BOINC_Data>\projects\setiathome.berkeley.edu\)
so you may want first to finish started tasks, upload and report them.

Another option for 'fresh' apps is to use the installer that puts optimized apps (which are also ~50% faster for CPU apps)
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=75863&postid=1586215#1586215
(I have to admit - I didn't tested the last/current versions of stock and optimized apps to see if they are '50% faster' but they are faster for sure)

- It may also be the Antivirus locking some files during 'real-time scan'
 

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- ALF - "Find out what you don't do well ..... then don't do it!" :)
 

 
Hm, happens again but not for all tasks:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/results.php?hostid=7417012&offset=0&show_names=0&state=6&appid=

Yes I have seen it..very dissapointing..grrr.

- It may be BOINC for some reason killing apps, so you may try the latest 'Development version' 7.4.26
http://boinc.berkeley.edu/download_all.php

Good Idea, will try this today.

- It may also be broken app (corrupted .exe / .dll file)

If you send every .exe and .dll found in SETI@home directory (<BOINC_Data>\projects\setiathome.berkeley.edu\) to:
https://www.virustotal.com/en/

... and you are the first to send it - your file is probably corrupted
(usually you'll see "this file was already scanned")

Yes, 3 times the message "already scanned".

If you want to get 'fresh' apps - you may 'Reset' the project.
Reset will delete all files (including tasks) in SETI@home directory (<BOINC_Data>\projects\setiathome.berkeley.edu\)
so you may want first to finish started tasks, upload and report them.

I will reset it and install the lastest Development version' 7.4.26.

Another option for 'fresh' apps is to use the installer that puts optimized apps (which are also ~50% faster for CPU apps)
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=75863&postid=1586215#1586215
(I have to admit - I didn't tested the last/current versions of stock and optimized apps to see if they are '50% faster' but they are faster for sure)

No not yet, I like to stay with the standard application.

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Ok, 30 min LinX with more RAM, max temp with stock cooler +/- 80º Celcius (176.00ºF).

I had hint from another user that 80°C may be too high a core temperature for this CPU

http://ark.intel.com/products/80816/Intel-Core-i5-4590S-Processor-6M-Cache-up-to-3_70-GHz

Intel defines max TCASE: "Case Temperature is the maximum temperature allowed at the processor Integrated Heat Spreader (IHS)"
(this is the top-center of CPU package)

For your CPU max TCASE is 71.35°C

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Instead of using trial version of this monitoring program (which hides some values) there are free alternatives which don't hide anything.

Real Temp
http://www.techpowerup.com/realtemp/

In this look at "Distance to TJMax" on loaded CPU

"As your CPU heats up, your Distance to TJMax will decrease. If it reaches zero, your processor will start to thermal throttle or slow down so maximizing your distance away from TJMax will help your computer run at full speed and more reliably too."


SIV - System Information Viewer
http://rh-software.com/

- shows info for everything ;)

Get siv.zip , unpack and run the .exe
"You should use SIV32X.exe on 32-bit Windows x86 and SIV64X.exe on 64-bit Windows x64"

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Do you have any other program that crash or hang?
Which other programs are used often on this computer?
Any 'heavy'? (e.g. long video compression/encoding by x264)

If not - I wonder if Asteroids@home CPU apps will also crash:
http://asteroidsathome.net/boinc/index.php

Asteroids@home uses very little HDD space and RAM but the code is highly optimized - they heat my AMD CPU more than SETI@home apps
The run time is similar to SETI@home v7
(I compare Asteroids@home stock CPU apps (SSE2 SSE3) against SETI@home optimized SSE3 app)

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- ALF - "Find out what you don't do well ..... then don't do it!" :)
 

Ok, 30 min LinX with more RAM, max temp with stock cooler +/- 80º Celcius (176.00ºF).

I had hint from another user that 80°C may be too high a core temperature for this CPU

http://ark.intel.com/products/80816/Intel-Core-i5-4590S-Processor-6M-Cache-up-to-3_70-GHz

Intel defines max TCASE: "Case Temperature is the maximum temperature allowed at the processor Integrated Heat Spreader (IHS)"
(this is the top-center of CPU package)

For your CPU max TCASE is 71.35°C

With the Boinc application it won't go up that high, max temp around 40°C.

Instead of using trial version of this monitoring program (which hides some values) there are free alternatives which don't hide anything.

Real Temp
http://www.techpowerup.com/realtemp/

In this look at "Distance to TJMax" on loaded CPU

"As your CPU heats up, your Distance to TJMax will decrease. If it reaches zero, your processor will start to thermal throttle or slow down so maximizing your distance away from TJMax will help your computer run at full speed and more reliably too."


SIV - System Information Viewer
http://rh-software.com/

- shows info for everything ;)

Get siv.zip , unpack and run the .exe
"You should use SIV32X.exe on 32-bit Windows x86 and SIV64X.exe on 64-bit Windows x64"

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I know these programs, will use them when needed, I have changed the CPU Fan settings in the Bios, max temp now with stockcooler and LinX 70°C.

Do you have any other program that crash or hang?
Which other programs are used often on this computer?
Any 'heavy'? (e.g. long video compression/encoding by x264)

Yes, I use Plex.tv mediaserver, when used with my Xbox One it has to transcode X264 streams, no transcoding errors detected yet. The Boinc client stops working when mediaserver is active transcoding so that isn't a issue if you ask me.

If not - I wonder if Asteroids@home CPU apps will also crash:
http://asteroidsathome.net/boinc/index.php

Asteroids@home uses very little HDD space and RAM but the code is highly optimized - they heat my AMD CPU more than SETI@home apps
The run time is similar to SETI@home v7
(I compare Asteroids@home stock CPU apps (SSE2 SSE3) against SETI@home optimized SSE3 app)

I will look into this if nothing else works, for now I still have compute errors with the Intel i5 and Boinc 7.4.26 Development version.
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/results.php?hostid=7417012

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Ok, 30 min LinX with more RAM, max temp with stock cooler +/- 80º Celcius (176.00ºF).

I had hint from another user that 80°C may be too high a core temperature for this CPU

http://ark.intel.com/products/80816/Intel-Core-i5-4590S-Processor-6M-Cache-up-to-3_70-GHz

Intel defines max TCASE: "Case Temperature is the maximum temperature allowed at the processor Integrated Heat Spreader (IHS)"
(this is the top-center of CPU package)

For your CPU max TCASE is 71.35°C

With the Boinc application it won't go up that high, max temp around 40°C.

Instead of using trial version of this monitoring program (which hides some values) there are free alternatives which don't hide anything.

Real Temp
http://www.techpowerup.com/realtemp/

In this look at "Distance to TJMax" on loaded CPU

"As your CPU heats up, your Distance to TJMax will decrease. If it reaches zero, your processor will start to thermal throttle or slow down so maximizing your distance away from TJMax will help your computer run at full speed and more reliably too."


SIV - System Information Viewer
http://rh-software.com/

- shows info for everything ;)

Get siv.zip , unpack and run the .exe
"You should use SIV32X.exe on 32-bit Windows x86 and SIV64X.exe on 64-bit Windows x64"

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I know these programs, will use them when needed, I have changed the CPU Fan settings in the Bios, max temp now with stockcooler and LinX 70°C.

Do you have any other program that crash or hang?
Which other programs are used often on this computer?
Any 'heavy'? (e.g. long video compression/encoding by x264)

Yes but no crasches detected yet, I use Plex.tv mediaserver, when used with my Xbox One it has to transcode X264 streams, no transcoding errors detected yet.
The Boinc client stops working when mediaserver is active transcoding so that isn't a issue if you ask me.

If not - I wonder if Asteroids@home CPU apps will also crash:
http://asteroidsathome.net/boinc/index.php

Asteroids@home uses very little HDD space and RAM but the code is highly optimized - they heat my AMD CPU more than SETI@home apps
The run time is similar to SETI@home v7
(I compare Asteroids@home stock CPU apps (SSE2 SSE3) against SETI@home optimized SSE3 app)

I will look into this if nothing else works, for now I still have compute errors with the Intel i5 and Boinc 7.4.26 Development version.
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/results.php?hostid=7417012

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With the Boinc application it won't go up that high, max temp around 40°C

Do you mean "With the SETI@home application"? (just BOINC with no running projects' applications is idle computer)

I know these programs, will use them when needed

So you will not know till then what is TJMax (or you know it from somewhere else?)
TJMax is the max core temperature before CPU "start to thermal throttle"

Yes, I use Plex.tv mediaserver, when used with my Xbox One it has to transcode X264 streams

Define "transcode"
If this is only decode - this is light (any player do it)
If this is encode by x264 - this library/codec really heats
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/X264

(if "Plex.tv mediaserver" uses other library/codec to encode in "H.264/MPEG-4 AVC format" - I can't know how optimized it is)

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- ALF - "Find out what you don't do well ..... then don't do it!" :)
 

Yes but no crasches detected yet

Don't you know you can [Edit] your posts in one hour period?
(I had hard time to realize you added the above)

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- ALF - "Find out what you don't do well ..... then don't do it!" :)
 

With the Boinc application it won't go up that high, max temp around 40°C

Do you mean "With the SETI@home application"? (just BOINC with no running projects' applications is idle computer)

With Seti application running 35/40°C, when idle the cpu is 25/30°C.

I know these programs, will use them when needed

So you will not know till then what is TJMax (or you know it from somewhere else?)
TJMax is the max core temperature before CPU "start to thermal throttle"

I don't think this is important for now or I do not understand why you want to know this.

Yes, I use Plex.tv mediaserver, when used with my Xbox One it has to transcode X264 streams

Define "transcode"
If this is only decode - this is light (any player do it)
If this is encode by x264 - this library/codec really heats
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/X264

(if "Plex.tv mediaserver" uses other library/codec to encode in "H.264/MPEG-4 AVC format" - I can't know how optimized it is)

Transcoding: see:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transcoding

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Distance to TJ Max: 22 - 21 - 22 - 24 while running the benchmark LinX.

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So TJMax looks to be 97°C

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Do you know which version of BIOS you have? (is it 2507)
(shown e.g. by CPU-Z and SIV -> Machine, or (while you reboot) by the BIOS itself)

Another user pointed me that there are several updates for your MB BIOS aimed to:
"Improve System performance, Improve system stability, Enhance compatibility"

http://www.asus.com/Motherboards/Z97P/HelpDesk_Download/

(choose Windows 7, then BIOS)

The last is:
Z97-P BIOS 2507
2014/10/24

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- ALF - "Find out what you don't do well ..... then don't do it!" :)
 

So TJMax looks to be 97°C

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Do you know which version of BIOS you have? (is it 2507)
(shown e.g. by CPU-Z and SIV -> Machine, or (while you reboot) by the BIOS itself)

Another user pointed me that there are several updates for your MB BIOS aimed to:
"Improve System performance, Improve system stability, Enhance compatibility"

http://www.asus.com/Motherboards/Z97P/HelpDesk_Download/

(choose Windows 7, then BIOS)

The last is:
Z97-P BIOS 2507
2014/10/24

Yes sir, bios 2507 and the latest updates are downloaded and installed.
I guess only one option is left, the Lunatics package, don't want that.

Is this still the latest about installing the luncatics package ?
http://www.overclockers.com/forums/showthread.php/625171-Instructions-for-Installing-and-Optimizing-BOINC-for-Windows

What about my second project, Rosetta@Home if I install the lunatics package ?

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Ok, for now my Windows Home Server 2011 is running the Lunatics optimized package.
Windows Task Manager says 4 times: AKv8c_r2549_winx86-64_AVXxjfs.exe boinc_project.

Fingers Crossed ;-)

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