Bad idea Janne, we'd grow out to be some mutated freaks:) If we even can't find a cure for ebola, we shouldn't start messing with Nature...

Julie...

Assuming we Humans Evolved on this Planet:

We are Nature and Natural (Nature Made Us). Therefore... Maybe Nature isn't as nice as we would like to believe, and the destruction we do is Natural and Nature's Plan.

Do I believe the above? No. But it makes one think.

Nature is not nice. Look at the death toll every year beacuse of Nature. Nature has thrown 5 mass extinction events at us over the Earths history.
Life has hung on. Then when you add in our history of killing each other. Kind of makes you wonder Nature or Nuture.
My guess is we have been nutured by nature to be violent.

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My guess is we have been nutured by nature to be violent.

We nurture ourselves to be violent James, Nature doesn't do that. Nature creates good and evil people. Good people nurture themselves to be good and gentle, evil people nurture themselves to be the devils creatures they are, like this man:

http://nordpresse.be/a-child-has-been-found-for-the-last-meal-of-a-man-sentenced-to-death/?lang=en

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My guess is we have been nutured by nature to be violent.

We nurture ourselves to be violent James, Nature doesn't do that. Nature creates good and evil people. Good people nurture themselves to be good and gentle, evil people nurture themselves to be the devils creatures they are, like this man:

http://nordpresse.be/a-child-has-been-found-for-the-last-meal-of-a-man-sentenced-to-death/?lang=en

:((

That can not be true!!!! I suspect an internet hoax, And or a sick freaking joke. There is no way in hell any state would condon that. And if you read the last line. It states he didnt eat the kid because it was over cooked. I say pure BS.

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My guess is we have been nutured by nature to be violent.

We nurture ourselves to be violent James, Nature doesn't do that. Nature creates good and evil people. Good people nurture themselves to be good and gentle, evil people nurture themselves to be the devils creatures they are, like this man:

http://nordpresse.be/a-child-has-been-found-for-the-last-meal-of-a-man-sentenced-to-death/?lang=en

:((

That can not be true!!!! I suspect an internet hoax, And or a sick freaking joke. There is no way in hell any state would condon that. And if you read the last line. It states he didnt eat the kid because it was over cooked. I say pure BS.

Can be James, but this guy really exists and evetho they didn't grant his wishes, he had them. And what about these two ten year old boys who killed a two year old, read the story:


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_James_Bulger

Make me want to refresh the Evil humans thread... :'(

But to remain on topic, I think conflict is actually needed for human advancement. It's like the saying goes, without a problem, there would be no such thing as a solution. (cfr. Dualism)

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Can be James, but this guy really exists and evetho they didn't grant his wishes, he had them.

Given that the story appeared on Nordpresse, a satirical website written by Vincent Flibustier, i think it very unlikely that he exists.

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Life on earth is the global equivalent of not storing things in the fridge.

Can be James, but this guy really exists and evetho they didn't grant his wishes, he had them.

Given that the story appeared on Nordpresse, a satirical website written by Vincent Flibustier, i think it very unlikely that he exists.

You might be right Simon:

http://latest.com/2014/10/death-row-inmate-texas-asked-child-last-meal/

I wouldn't want to be that man in the picture though, altho he's probably evil as hell by the look in his eyes...

[edit] The man in the pic is a guy called Shawn Phillips:

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/vigilante-justice-ends-with-murder-of-alleged-sex-offender-say-cops/

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Wondering is the capacity to think and create. Has/Will lead similar creatures in the Universe, to their own self-destruction?

Yes, most probably. Not all, but there will be a number of species (assuming that there are other intelligent species) that have destroyed themselves through the misuse of their own inventions.

My guess is we have been nutured by nature to be violent.

We nurture ourselves to be violent James, Nature doesn't do that. Nature creates good and evil people. Good people nurture themselves to be good and gentle, evil people nurture themselves to be the devils creatures they are, like this man:
http://nordpresse.be/a-child-has-been-found-for-the-last-meal-of-a-man-sentenced-to-death/?lang=en
:((

Thank God. It was just a satire!

A likelihood of confusion

But the satirical websites also sow confusion. True or false? True or false? On social networks, where the user is faced with a deluge of information difficult to always make sense of things. Critical thinking can then turn into widespread skepticism. That raises a question for Jean-Jacques Jespers.

"The risk to the public is to mix everything and say that anyway," the "media tell anything. This is true at times but this is not true all the time and this is not true for all media, "says Professor of Ethics information ULB." So I think that critical thinking should actually be raised, raised, solicited, but avoid ambiguities ".

Avoid ambiguity, this means that the reading contract must be clear: the reader needs to know what type of information, satirical or not he case. The site of North-Press, which does not clearly sets the tone and slides real information from the false, in this respect is a cons-example, according to Jean-Jacques Jespers. If the user is trapped without possibility of detecting the hoax, what is the point in terms of awakening the critical spirit?

http://nordpresse.be/author/marie-kagan/?lang=en

If the user is trapped without possibility of detecting the hoax, what is the point in terms of awakening the critical spirit?

Very good point!

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Yes, most probably. Not all, but there will be a number of species (assuming that there are other intelligent species) that have destroyed themselves through the misuse of their own inventions.

That is undoubtedly so, but we have had the ability to "communicate" (or at least listen) for only a 100 years. The real question is whether we will be around long enough to hear anything from the ones that did survive.

That is undoubtedly so, but we have had the ability to "communicate" (or at least listen) for only a 100 years. The real question is whether we will be around long enough to hear anything from the ones that did survive.

A valid point. It indeed remains to be seen whether humanity survives long enough to reach a point where it no longer is likely to kill itself.

Wouldn't that assume an 'advancement' in Human DNA?

Just a thought IF Evil/Good is in our DNA.

The capacity to change our DNA appears possible. The technology can be used for good, or evil. In the future: Can we 'Control' Mad and Evil Scientist's, Country's, Cultures, from using this? My answer would be - NO.

No because good and evil are not related to genes. In the end it are environmental pressures that push people into good or bad behavior and even then its not as black and white as you suggest.

What it needs is a change in human society. In the overall structures that govern our lives. Not government, but culture and the socioeconomic systems that are in play. The background contexts in which we all grow up and that shape us.

No because good and evil are not related to genes.

Are you sure of that?

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/science/science-news/9968753/Studying-Adam-Lanza-is-evil-in-our-genes.html

But so controversial are the links between biology and violence that only the bravest scientists have dared tackle it. “There are many political objections and that means there’s not been enough research into the area,”

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From the same article:

By the same token, would we continue to reward virtue? Would we continue to praise heroes, or would we simply acknowledge that they had a well-developed amygdala?

several killers have been sentenced for manslaughter rather than murder after DNA evidence was produced to show the perpetrator had unusually high levels of MAO-A.

If I may answer your question too Clyde?

The main factor in Control lies inside a person's head.

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Have we Scientifically 'Proved' there are no evil/good genes? I don't believe so.

There is no gene responsible for any kind of specific behavior. Just like there is no gene responsible for say...picking your nose or loving to read mystery novels. Genes do not result in specific actions, what they do is make you more susceptible to specific patterns of behavior. That would also include things like sociopathy and psychopathy, which you could classify as 'evil'. The thing however is that there are plenty of people with a genetic predisposition towards sociopathy but we are fully functioning members of society. They might be dirtbags, unpleasant and unlikable, but who would never commit crimes or murder. That kind of specific behavior needs to be activated, enabled and thats something your environment does. A sociopath growing up in a dysfunctional family and poverty? Yeah, pretty reasonable chance that someone like that commit murder and really becomes evil. Sociopath growing up in a upper middle class family that raises him with love and care? Well he could pursue a carreer in business and would probably thrive.

Of course, this is just a really really crude example. Reality is far more complex. e

Perhaps, if there are evil/good genes: These genes just control one's Inclination towards these behaviors, and Environment does matter.

Yes, exactly. I would agree with you there.

How do we Control, let's say Home Environment, without Complete Government Control, within The Home?

Education? Very limited.

You don't have to. For one thing, ensuring that no one lives in real poverty and has access to quality education and job opportunities would in the vast majority of cases avoid triggers that might push someone to commit acts of evil. Of course, you can never completely avoid it in every case. But if its only a tiny minority of people that goes over the edge, their ultimate impact on society will remain minimal.

You don't have to. For one thing, ensuring that no one lives in real poverty and has access to quality education and job opportunities would in the vast majority of cases avoid triggers that might push someone to commit acts of evil. Of course, you can never completely avoid it in every case. But if its only a tiny minority of people that goes over the edge, their ultimate impact on society will remain minimal.

Whatever you call a minority man... Most politicians go over the edge and they 'rule' the world. What impact is that giving on society you think?

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Whatever you call a minority man... Most politicians go over the edge and they 'rule' the world. What impact is that giving on society you think?

Most politicians aren't evil. Yeah, you don't agree with the policies they pursue, sure, but that doesn't make them evil.

Besides, politicians do not rule the world. No human or group of humans does. The most politicians do is anticipate or react to certain events, but even then the impact they have on the world as a whole is only minor.

Whatever you call a minority man... Most politicians go over the edge and they 'rule' the world. What impact is that giving on society you think?

Most politicians aren't evil. Yeah, you don't agree with the policies they pursue, sure, but that doesn't make them evil.

Besides, politicians do not rule the world. No human or group of humans does. The most politicians do is anticipate or react to certain events, but even then the impact they have on the world as a whole is only minor.

So you think outside the box, good:) I don't even want to start on the 'so called' spiritual wold... (I use those 'blank' for a reason you know:)

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Besides, politicians do not rule the world. No human or group of humans does. The most politicians do is anticipate or react to certain events, but even then the impact they have on the world as a whole is only minor.

They also give voice to people's silent hopes and fears. A guy in Germany did that and had quite an impact. I would say though that a country gets the leadership it deserves, whether it is a democracy or otherwise. That is a compliment to some countries some of the time, less so to others.

No, it is not. What I've been wondering.. (I was looking for a thread of mine here in politics, but it disappeared..) Some people are born evil, some aren't. The basic laws of nature don't show any signs of evil. Did the minds of those evil people create evil? How does one look in the perspective of the evil person him/herself? Do the worst cases know any morals and/or ethics and how can it be that they're lacking it? Are they a flaw in the evolution of humans? Would we have been lots of steps further in our evolution if they hadn't existed? Does it have to do with the IQ or the EQ?

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