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Raistmer Send message Joined: 16 Jun 01 Posts: 6325 Credit: 106,370,077 RAC: 121 |
I think we need a plan B... Plan B is simple. Just start to crunch ;D |
Richard Haselgrove Send message Joined: 4 Jul 99 Posts: 14649 Credit: 200,643,578 RAC: 874 |
I think we need a plan B... Yes, the stock applications are digitally signed already. |
Raistmer Send message Joined: 16 Jun 01 Posts: 6325 Credit: 106,370,077 RAC: 121 |
I think we need a plan B... And BOINC installer itself? BTW, in testing I did replacement of stock (digitally signed) apps with own binaries. And they were at least launched by BOINC (and even completed some tasks before any BOINC complains) So, all those illusions of security need to be perceived ironically enough. That's what I wanted to say - no waste your time on this pseudo-issue. There are big enough holes in BOINC security to make all this unneeded. |
Mike Send message Joined: 17 Feb 01 Posts: 34253 Credit: 79,922,639 RAC: 80 |
I think we need a plan B... I totally agree. I wouldn`t worry to much about it Richard. Everybody here should trust you enough to believe the files are clean. Its just a matter of time until the definitions of those virus scanners will no longer complain about it. With each crime and every kindness we birth our future. |
Richard Haselgrove Send message Joined: 4 Jul 99 Posts: 14649 Credit: 200,643,578 RAC: 874 |
I think we need a plan B... The question wasn't about BOINC security - the problem is user-initiated downloads from Lunatics/Arkayn/Mike being blocked by web browsers. Those of us with dvelopment backgrounds know the pitfalls and the workrounds, and can make an intelligent (but not always correct) decision between what is, and what isn't, safe to download and install. But sadly, not every computer user - including members of sophisticated and knowledgeable communities like this one - has that depth of experience to make a good choice. I would never give any general advice to ignore malware warnings on downloads, even though I think they can often be discounted in specific cases - after you've read, investigated, and considered carefully. I've come across too many of the "better class of idiot" (the evolutionary by-product of idiot-proofing software) during my working life to risk taking any other stance. But in the case of the Lunatics Installer, I think any sort of technical fix would be overkill. Let's see how the level of false positives changes as the new installer comes into common use. |
JarrettH Send message Joined: 14 Nov 02 Posts: 97 Credit: 25,385,250 RAC: 95 |
Run only the selected applications SETI@home Enhanced SETI@home v7 AstroPulse v6 AstroPulse v7 Should I only leave SETI v7 and Astropulse v7 ticked now? Thanks |
Richard Haselgrove Send message Joined: 4 Jul 99 Posts: 14649 Credit: 200,643,578 RAC: 874 |
Run only the selected applications You'll want those two checked/ticked, yes. SETI@home Enhanced is long dead, you won't see any of those whatever you do. AstroPulse v6 - there'll be a few around for a while yet. It would be generally helpful if you could leave it checked/ticked so that you help the project with the cleanup. But that's up to you - won't make a lot of difference either way. |
Keith Myers Send message Joined: 29 Apr 01 Posts: 13161 Credit: 1,160,866,277 RAC: 1,873 |
Thanks, Keith. I think that pretty much confirms what we thought. Richard, turns out to be a lot simpler in contacting the multiple AV/Malware reporting companies. Stumbled upon this link which provided the instructions to report suspicious files to all companies in one shot. I did so and have already received back numerous responses that say the installer file is clean and poses no danger. This is the link: http://www.techsupportalert.com/content/how-report-malware-or-false-positives-multiple-antivirus-vendors.htm Cheers, Keith Seti@Home classic workunits:20,676 CPU time:74,226 hours A proud member of the OFA (Old Farts Association) |
Josef W. Segur Send message Joined: 30 Oct 99 Posts: 4504 Credit: 1,414,761 RAC: 0 |
Run only the selected applications If you're willing to do work for all the applications chosen during the Lunatics install, it may be best to uncheck all the specific app preferences (including the "If no work for selected applications is available, accept work from other applications?"). After doing so, the display at the end of the edited venue will show: Run only the selected applications (all applications) If no work for selected applications is available, no accept work from other applications? That is perhaps slightly counterintuitive, but in effect you're saying you don't prefer any app and the host will take whatever work it can do. There are two minor advantages to those settings, first it is slightly less work for the Scheduler to assign tasks to the host with those settings, second when the project rolls out a new app there's no need to change those settings. Neither of those makes a lot of difference. Joe |
TimeLord04 Send message Joined: 9 Mar 06 Posts: 21140 Credit: 33,933,039 RAC: 23 |
I first modified my app_config.xml file to include AP v7. Next, I downloaded Lunatics 0.43 from Mike's website, and installed 0.43. I went through the settings for my NVIDIA card; selecting AP v7, and CUDA50 for MB. All installed without error. NOTE: COMODO Internet Security throws up a warning on running 0.43 installer. I just clicked "Run Unlimited", and on the final warning I clicked "Allow". No problems to report after that. No problems downloading file, though. :-) [EDIT] I forgot to mention that my NVIDIA is a GTX760 and is on Driver 337.88. TimeLord04 Have TARDIS, will travel... Come along K-9! Join Calm Chaos |
betreger Send message Joined: 29 Jun 99 Posts: 11360 Credit: 29,581,041 RAC: 66 |
Am I correct that this app does not use Cuda on my Fermi cards? The reason I ask is the tasks are identified as opencl nvidea 100. If that is so why did the installer ask me to identify my card, Fermi vs Kepler? |
HAL9000 Send message Joined: 11 Sep 99 Posts: 6534 Credit: 196,805,888 RAC: 57 |
Am I correct that this app does not use Cuda on my Fermi cards? The reason I ask is the tasks are identified as opencl nvidea 100. If that is so why did the installer ask me to identify my card, Fermi vs Kepler? The MB app is CUDA the AP app is OpenCL. The ID question was probably to select the correct CUDA version for MB. SETI@home classic workunits: 93,865 CPU time: 863,447 hours Join the [url=http://tinyurl.com/8y46zvu]BP6/VP6 User Group[ |
betreger Send message Joined: 29 Jun 99 Posts: 11360 Credit: 29,581,041 RAC: 66 |
Well since I only crunch AP when I can that explains that. |
Blurf Send message Joined: 2 Sep 06 Posts: 8962 Credit: 12,678,685 RAC: 0 |
Can no longer do 2 GPU units at once as I was since installing .43 Running 6.10.58. I'm sure it's the app info but not sure how to resolve...help please? Thx ahead of time |
JohnDK Send message Joined: 28 May 00 Posts: 1222 Credit: 451,243,443 RAC: 1,127 |
I a problem with the GPU app "stealing" memory, first noticed it yesterday on my 2xGTX770 PC and just now on my GTX970 PC. In BOINC the elapsed time keeps running but progress stands on 0%, the one just now had been running for 20 minutes, pausing and unpausing doesn't help, the same happens. It's this WU ap_28jn14aa_B5_P1_00055_20141018_06043.wu This is a capture I did yesterday on the PC with only 4GB, normally there's no problem, but with the app taking 1.4GB I have a problem ;) |
Mike Send message Joined: 17 Feb 01 Posts: 34253 Credit: 79,922,639 RAC: 80 |
Can no longer do 2 GPU units at once as I was since installing .43 Yes, its the appinfo. Just change everything from <count>1</count> to <count>0.5</count>[/quote] With each crime and every kindness we birth our future. |
Mike Send message Joined: 17 Feb 01 Posts: 34253 Credit: 79,922,639 RAC: 80 |
I a problem with the GPU app "stealing" memory, first noticed it yesterday on my 2xGTX770 PC and just now on my GTX970 PC. You are running 5 instances on the GPU plus 4 instances on CPU. Thats to much. Try CPU_lock switch or reserve at least 1 CPU core. You can see one GPU instance consumes a full CPU core and 1 instance on CPU got 0. That means your system is in stall. Edit: I judst noticed you are running 3 instances on GPU. That wont work with a quad core when all cores are in use. With each crime and every kindness we birth our future. |
JohnDK Send message Joined: 28 May 00 Posts: 1222 Credit: 451,243,443 RAC: 1,127 |
You are running 5 instances on the GPU plus 4 instances on CPU. But the same just happened on my 8 core machine where I have 4 free cores. |
Mike Send message Joined: 17 Feb 01 Posts: 34253 Credit: 79,922,639 RAC: 80 |
You are running 5 instances on the GPU plus 4 instances on CPU. Which one ? Is it HT or pysical 8 cores ? Something else must consume ressources. With each crime and every kindness we birth our future. |
JohnDK Send message Joined: 28 May 00 Posts: 1222 Credit: 451,243,443 RAC: 1,127 |
[Which one ? It's this http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/show_host_detail.php?hostid=5284345 It's running HT, have 12GB ram, 3 GPU WUs using -use_sleep and 4 CPU WUs running leaving 4 cores free, CPU usage is around 50-60%. |
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