Why does everything have to be crammed up so tight? You have to measure every damned mm and make templates of this or that.

Sure the electronics runs a little faster because it's shorter distances to travel, but it seems that the tight fit is ridiculous. They can't keep cramming more and more into such a small space.

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merle - vote yes for freedom of speech

Why does everything have to be crammed up so tight? You have to measure every damned mm and make templates of this or that.

Sure the electronics runs a little faster because it's shorter distances to travel, but it seems that the tight fit is ridiculous. They can't keep cramming more and more into such a small space.

Well there are standards for motherboard sizes. I think mostly it is driven by what corporations want in their computers & the requirements set by the chip manufactures.
Having large amounts of empty space would also cost the motherboard manufactures more money.

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I know where you are coming from. But it seems that the do-dads and other bits bling get the attention.

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Thats why NewEgg sells a whole host of different cases and the gear that goes in them.
My two Antec 920 cases are twice as big as my HP store bought Vista machine. With more fans to boot.
But it also comes down to how much diehards want to stuff as much crap in them as they can.
My problem is cable management. I seem to suck at that. But with my store bought HP they didnt do any netter.

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Thats why NewEgg sells a whole host of different cases and the gear that goes in them.
My two Antec 920 cases are twice as big as my HP store bought Vista machine. With more fans to boot.
But it also comes down to how much diehards want to stuff as much crap in them as they can.
My problem is cable management. I seem to suck at that. But with my store bought HP they didnt do any netter.

I know the feeling about cable management. I just used enough zip ties to keep the wires out of the fans. Not a pretty sight.

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My new case has enough room behind the MB to run all the wires there.

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The cables from the psu... No way to hide all the miles of them. If it could not reach then you did something wrong.

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At one point I ran all of my cables behind but now I have two GPUs outside the case so I've left everything open and messy.

My new case (Zalamn Z3) has a bridge that runs across the case. I've used that to carry all the cables, dropping them down where needed. (Loads of cable ties needed...)

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I use this

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811139022&cm_re=corsair-_-11-139-022-_-Product

It has the mother board, GPU and HHD on one side and the Power Source, SSD, Optial drive and all the cables on the other side.


Happy Crunching....


Zalster

I suppose if I wanted to reduce heat I could down my five drive raid and just run one drive. I like the idea of having the power supply on the other side as mine is producing heat that's spilling over to my lowest video card, which happens to run the hottest I'm using a HAF X minus three panels and one of the fans.

When I was at Fry's I saw the box for the Corsair Obsidian 900D and it looked like it needed to be carried on a flatbed and I thought, "Who would need something that big?" Now I think maybe I should have given that a closer look.

At my dual Xeon pc I use the 900D.I use to have the Haf X.The 900D is bigger, and it is cooler.

Plus with the 900D you can make better cable management, and add more than one PSU.

Tim

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They have that ATX-E MB. That is the one that I was initially looking for so there would be more space on the MB but when I went looking I found out that the selection of these oversized MB's was very meager. So I decided that since not many people were selling or buying that size I had better stick with the regular ATX MB's. But I just wish there were more of them. Good luck with that.

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I was considering an Extended ATX motherboard, an EVGA Z97 Classified, not too many unused features, more space to work, big heatsinks and cheaper than the one that I ended up getting. Extended boards are usually more expensive due to their size and I would guess that they have to have a dedicated production line or halt the main line to retool for Extended ATX before going back. Plus an Extended board won't fit in many cases. The primary reason I chickened out is because I know that EVGA is the premier Nvidia partner and I felt that CrossFire support was important. It turns out my cards can do CrossFire through the PCI-E 3.0 bus without the need for CrossFire cable bridges, so this board might have been a better choice for me. I suppose if given the opportunity to go back there's a bunch of stuff that could be done differently.

I was considering an Extended ATX motherboard, an EVGA Z97 Classified, not too many unused features, more space to work, big heatsinks and cheaper than the one that I ended up getting. Extended boards are usually more expensive due to their size and I would guess that they have to have a dedicated production line or halt the main line to retool for Extended ATX before going back. Plus an Extended board won't fit in many cases. The primary reason I chickened out is because I know that EVGA is the premier Nvidia partner and I felt that CrossFire support was important. It turns out my cards can do CrossFire through the PCI-E 3.0 bus without the need for CrossFire cable bridges, so this board might have been a better choice for me. I suppose if given the opportunity to go back there's a bunch of stuff that could be done differently.

Nvidia = SLI
ATI = CrossFire
It looks like you mostly have ATI cards too.
The external PCIe bridges are only required for some cards when the MB doesn't support the feature.

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