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KWSN - MajorKong Send message Joined: 5 Jan 00 Posts: 2892 Credit: 1,499,890 RAC: 0 |
Haven't we already established mommy and daddy can have their kids stoned? What's the difference between Methylphenidate and pot? Yes. |
Gary Charpentier Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 30637 Credit: 53,134,872 RAC: 32 |
Haven't we already established mommy and daddy can have their kids stoned? What's the difference between Methylphenidate and pot? I hope so because the generation brought up stoned has yet to take over .... |
Gary Charpentier Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 30637 Credit: 53,134,872 RAC: 32 |
Haven't we already established mommy and daddy can have their kids stoned? What's the difference between Methylphenidate and pot? You weren't brought up stoned 24-7 from kindergarten, you got stoned once in a while after you got in high school. |
Gary Charpentier Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 30637 Credit: 53,134,872 RAC: 32 |
Chris, look up Methylphenidate |
Julie Send message Joined: 28 Oct 09 Posts: 34053 Credit: 18,883,157 RAC: 18 |
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Es99 Send message Joined: 23 Aug 05 Posts: 10874 Credit: 350,402 RAC: 0 |
Chris, look up Methylphenidate ADHD is over diagnosed at the moment. The poor behaviour you describe often has more to do with poor diet and children staying up very late playing video games. Of course the entire concept of expecting children to sit still at their desks of 5 hours a day is idiotic. So its no surprise that quite a few of them struggle with this unnatural situation. ADHD is real, but once you meet a kid with ADHD there is no doubt that they have an actual problem. Simply throwing blotting paper balls is not a symptom of anything more than being bored. Reality Internet Personality |
Мишель Send message Joined: 26 Nov 13 Posts: 3073 Credit: 87,868 RAC: 0 |
The poor behaviour you describe often has more to do with poor diet and children staying up very late playing video games. Leave games out of this would you? Video games, thanks to the incessant blabbering of the media about the supposed negative effects is one of the most controlled activities by parents. The vast majority of parents are either present when the kids are playing games or have strict time limits on how much their kids are allowed to play games. Besides a poor diet and absent parents are generally symptoms of a much bigger problem, namely poverty. |
Darth Beaver Send message Joined: 20 Aug 99 Posts: 6728 Credit: 21,443,075 RAC: 3 |
People you have wondered off the trail a bit . I agree A.D.H.D is over prescribed and bad social circumstances contribute to drug use and over subscription of prescribed drug's such as OXYCONTIN , RITALIN and many other's. But making drugs illegal only serves the crime gangs , both above mentioned drugs are big items on the illegal drug scene , and contribute to the over subscription of prescribed drugs. would it not be better to treat additions as a health problem ? To do that it needs to be decriminalized , and a national health system To stop over prescribing of drugs you need some way of controlling the drugs at the source , and monitoring of this closely Cannabis is the least health effect of all drugs . If cigarettes , alcohol , are legal and cause so many problems , why are they not illegal also ? |
Es99 Send message Joined: 23 Aug 05 Posts: 10874 Credit: 350,402 RAC: 0 |
The poor behaviour you describe often has more to do with poor diet and children staying up very late playing video games. Really? And how many classrooms have you stood in looking at the pale faces with dark circles under their eyes and hearing about how they've been up until 4am playing video games? Do tell. The kids get addicted and in some schools it was so bad that the parents were asked not to allow the kids to have TVs or game systems in their bedrooms. Besides a poor diet and absent parents are generally symptoms of a much bigger problem, namely poverty. Don't disagree. Whatever the cause, labelling as ADHD is not the solution. Reality Internet Personality |
Es99 Send message Joined: 23 Aug 05 Posts: 10874 Credit: 350,402 RAC: 0 |
As an overly bright child I did not have a happy school experience. Especially in primary school. I certainly had trouble sitting still, bored for hours on end. I am sure my old teachers can vouch for that. I did not like school. Its one of life's ironys that I ended up a teacher, but I do try to make sure my students do not suffer the way I did. What it did do for 2.5 hours in the morning and 2.5 hours in the afternoon, is actually educate us, and teach us to accept certain parameters of life that just had to be. I learned more on my own than I ever learned at school. I did learn how to put up with idiots and stand up for myself...but academically, it was pretty much a waste of time and I skipped class an awful lot. Luckily back then all assessment was exam based so I was just fine. As an avowed left winger, perhaps you would prefer to advocate this sort of approach to education. Liverpool One of my friend's daughter's was educated in a Free School (no fixed curriculum and totally child centred). She has grown in a remarkable, self assured woman. I suspect it wouldn't work for every child, but for some it is better than the regular school. We went to school in the 50's because we knew we had to, were expected to, and our parents made sure that we did so. And there were proper School Inspectors in those days that made sure it happened. We didn't quote Human rights when a teacher threw a wooden backed board rubber at us for not paying attention, we didn't sue teachers for assault because we got the slipper on our backside for talking in class. And neither did we fall out of school unemployable either. I am glad your school experience was satisfactory for you. You also had more PE time scheduled back then that schools do know, so I suspect you got to run about more rather than spending so much time stuck at a desk trying to meet targets. I was lucky that he left wing schooling I went through was able to be flexible to my needs and the school let me just get on with it when I refused to read the silly books they wanted me to for English and let me pick my own (much more difficult) literature. I doubt they would have done that in your day. Of course in the golden age you are talking about I wouldn't have been allowed to study science at all and would have been forced to do something like typing instead. Thank goodness things have improved since you were at school. Anyway, you clearly know very little about what school was like for me or what sort of student I was. I still struggle in sitting in classes or lectures that are too long and sometimes have to leave. I am not ADHD, I have a normal reaction to unnatural situations. So please don't claim that because it was ok for you that it was ok for everyone. Reality Internet Personality |
Мишель Send message Joined: 26 Nov 13 Posts: 3073 Credit: 87,868 RAC: 0 |
Total garbage!!! As a single student you have no idea how a family with kids operates, and what limits are imposed, and I might add in other countries. The world does not revolve around the Netherlands. I actually wasn't talking about the Netherlands. Nor does me being single have any relevance in this discussion. And why? Because I know how to google some basic statistics.]Because I know how to google some statistics covering the subject |
Мишель Send message Joined: 26 Nov 13 Posts: 3073 Credit: 87,868 RAC: 0 |
Really? And how many classrooms have you stood in looking at the pale faces with dark circles under their eyes and hearing about how they've been up until 4am playing video games? Do tell. The kids get addicted and in some schools it was so bad that the parents were asked not to allow the kids to have TVs or game systems in their bedrooms. That doesn't mean that games represent only a minor cause of addiction. Does it happen? Sure. Is it a massive problem? No. Should it be listed as a reason why kids are all uncontrollable monsters and why society is falling apart? No. Games are like sports, great for you if you play in moderation, but bad for you if you don't. Its just a little easier to abuse. |
Мишель Send message Joined: 26 Nov 13 Posts: 3073 Credit: 87,868 RAC: 0 |
Мишель... A real life experience is just one experience. If you rely on them to much, they will warp your view and thinking that your real life experiences are what the majority of people experience. Statistics on the other hand, paint a much broader picture consisting of the aggregate experiences of many. So when making broad sweeping generalizations, then yeah, some statistical backing is superior than your singular real life experiences. Its the difference between the big picture and the small picture. |
Sirius B Send message Joined: 26 Dec 00 Posts: 24879 Credit: 3,081,182 RAC: 7 |
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Sirius B Send message Joined: 26 Dec 00 Posts: 24879 Credit: 3,081,182 RAC: 7 |
Drugs - lovely stuff isn't it! So, as an ex-Police Officer, do you feel indifference or it's a tragic waste of life? Also, to see that they're not part of "the great unwashed" as others continuously mentions, makes one wonder! |
Julie Send message Joined: 28 Oct 09 Posts: 34053 Credit: 18,883,157 RAC: 18 |
Drugs - lovely stuff isn't it! From the article: Winning,’ he wrote. I tried to help many people like that. Most of them can't be helped unfortunately. They always have their mind set. [edit] Overall in Belgium, only 1,66% stays clean from heroin after rehabilitation, those are statistics:( heroin is the only hard drug tho that gives you an addiction physically. 'Kicking off' as they say, gives the same symptoms as flu. rOZZ Music Pictures |
Gary Charpentier Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 30637 Credit: 53,134,872 RAC: 32 |
Was this Chris' happy times? http://www.latimes.com/local/california/la-me-california-retrospective-20141023-story.html |
Julie Send message Joined: 28 Oct 09 Posts: 34053 Credit: 18,883,157 RAC: 18 |
Was this Chris' happy times? I believe that was before his time:) rOZZ Music Pictures |
Sirius B Send message Joined: 26 Dec 00 Posts: 24879 Credit: 3,081,182 RAC: 7 |
Was this Chris' happy times? Not that much before. From that report, with his mindset, it seems that the judge could be his blood brother :-) |
Darth Beaver Send message Joined: 20 Aug 99 Posts: 6728 Credit: 21,443,075 RAC: 3 |
Sirius this is a better liking of Chris http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_Symons However Chris i'm not so shore your as smart as Red is though IQ.163 |
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