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Message 1588328 - Posted: 17 Oct 2014, 16:04:32 UTC - in response to Message 1588221.  

How do you think that the Continent of South America funds it's existence?

Oil and mining?
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Message 1588342 - Posted: 17 Oct 2014, 16:21:02 UTC - in response to Message 1588328.  

How do you think that the Continent of South America funds it's existence?

Oil and mining?

Some agriculture, coffee, cocoa, "protected" wood, bananas, .....
https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/
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Message 1588507 - Posted: 17 Oct 2014, 22:04:44 UTC - in response to Message 1588410.  
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How do you think that the Continent of South America funds it's existence?

Oil and mining?

Try again.

The economy of South America comprises around 382 million people living in twelve nations and three territories. It contributes 6 percent of the world's population. Main products include: Coffee, soybeans, wheat, rice, corn, sugarcane, cocoa, citrus, beef. Bananas and shrimp are also important agricultural products for many countries.

They also have their own version of the United Nations USAN


Chris S,

You and Es99 are BOTH right.

Agricultural products are an important export from various nations in South America.

Just in the last week, I have consumed corned beef from Brazil, coffee from Columbia, and grapes from Chile.

But, by the same token, oil and mining are important too. Venezuela is a member of OPEC and is a rather large producer of crude oil. Brazil is also ramping up some of its offshore oil deposits too.

And Chile. Mining is HUGE in Chile. Their highest value export is Copper. 2nd highest is Nitrates. Their Nitrate mines are very significant. 69% of the world's production of Nitrates is from Chile.

For a perspective on South American mining:

http://mapper.infomine.com/
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Message 1588554 - Posted: 18 Oct 2014, 1:40:25 UTC - in response to Message 1588538.  

lol!
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note to self.
Must remember not criticize the class of rich and powerful people known as
bankers, politicians, drug cartels, and law enforcement.
That would just be mindless, silly, bigotry on my part!

GOT IT? Yes Got It!

LOL!!
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Message 1588688 - Posted: 18 Oct 2014, 13:25:11 UTC - in response to Message 1588677.  

Next, I stand by my assertion that South America is a collection of unstable states supported by a global drug trade. I have not heard any solid evidence to say otherwise so far.

Nor have you produced any evidence to support your claim. Sorry, but youre the one making the claims here, the burden of proof lies with you. Show us evidence that South American states are A) unstable and B) mostly reliant on international drug trade, meaning that the profits of any drug trade go straight into the government coffers and not into the pocket of a few drug lords who are beyond the law.
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Message 1588693 - Posted: 18 Oct 2014, 13:47:34 UTC - in response to Message 1588689.  

That is a fair enough reply which I fully accept. OK the challenge is on, I will go away and see what evidence I can find, and get back. If I can't find any to back my assertions up, then I will have to withdraw my comments. Fair enough?

More than fair :)
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Message 1588737 - Posted: 18 Oct 2014, 16:40:23 UTC - in response to Message 1588703.  

Next, I stand by my assertion that South America is a collection of unstable states supported by a global drug trade. I have not heard any solid evidence to say otherwise so far.

Nor have you produced any evidence to support your claim. Sorry, but youre the one making the claims here, the burden of proof lies with you. Show us evidence that South American states are A) unstable and B) mostly reliant on international drug trade, meaning that the profits of any drug trade go straight into the government coffers and not into the pocket of a few drug lords who are beyond the law.

The Drug Lords are 'Paying Off' The Authority's, to continue their trade.

It is an Unholy Alliance.

Yes, many of these Country's are Unstable. However... The Drug Trade is not the Major Economic Stimulus for these Country's.

True.

...and they are unstable because the US has a deliberate policy of keeping them that way.
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Message 1588744 - Posted: 18 Oct 2014, 16:53:58 UTC

Interesting article on the nature of marijuan addiction.

Marijuana Addiction Is (Almost) All in Your Head

"However, as with all other drugs, only a minority of marijuana users ever struggle with addiction. Research suggests that about 10% get hooked—and on average, marijuana addiction lasts six years. Even more than other addictions, marijuana addiction seems to be driven by self-medication of mental health problems— 90% of people with marijuana addiction also have another addiction or mental illness, typically alcoholism or antisocial personality disorder. "

This rings true from what I have seen.
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Message 1588864 - Posted: 19 Oct 2014, 17:23:51 UTC - in response to Message 1588760.  

Next, I stand by my assertion that South America is a collection of unstable states supported by a global drug trade. I have not heard any solid evidence to say otherwise so far.

Nor have you produced any evidence to support your claim. Sorry, but youre the one making the claims here, the burden of proof lies with you. Show us evidence that South American states are A) unstable and B) mostly reliant on international drug trade, meaning that the profits of any drug trade go straight into the government coffers and not into the pocket of a few drug lords who are beyond the law.

The Drug Lords are 'Paying Off' The Authority's, to continue their trade.

It is an Unholy Alliance.

Yes, many of these Country's are Unstable. However... The Drug Trade is not the Major Economic Stimulus for these Country's.

True.

...and they are unstable because the US has a deliberate policy of keeping them that way.

Can you stop? Answer - No.

Understand some person's believe that they can not be held responsible for THEIR own mistakes. Very disgusting philosophy.

I believe These Country's, and Peoples, should be held to the same standards regarding mistakes as The USA, and Western Europe Country's/Peoples.

Other Peoples/Country's doing them wrong: Does not absolve them of their responsibility for THEIR conditions. They are not children. Don't treat them as children.

Oh Clyde. How lovely your bubble must be to live in.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Covert_United_States_foreign_regime_change_actions

Notice how many of them are in South America?
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Message 1588882 - Posted: 19 Oct 2014, 17:59:21 UTC - in response to Message 1588876.  

Good points. We are all responsible for our own mistakes, but who is held responsible when those mistakes are caused by others interfering or manipulating us?

Ourselves?
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Message 1588884 - Posted: 19 Oct 2014, 18:08:36 UTC - in response to Message 1588882.  

Good points. We are all responsible for our own mistakes, but who is held responsible when those mistakes are caused by others interfering or manipulating us?

Ourselves?


They should be held responsible but when they have more 'power' than you, we're talking about fighting a losing battle.
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Message 1588886 - Posted: 19 Oct 2014, 18:11:34 UTC - in response to Message 1588884.  

Good points. We are all responsible for our own mistakes, but who is held responsible when those mistakes are caused by others interfering or manipulating us?

Ourselves?


They should be held responsible but when they have more 'power' than you, we're talking about fighting a losing battle.


Tell me about it! A sergeant-Major once told me that the worst battlefield is not one in a combat zone but the family one at home. Sad to say, he was right.
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Message 1588897 - Posted: 19 Oct 2014, 18:31:17 UTC - in response to Message 1588893.  
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Good points. We are all responsible for our own mistakes, but who is held responsible when those mistakes are caused by others interfering or manipulating us?

Ourselves?


They should be held responsible but when they have more 'power' than you, we're talking about fighting a losing battle.

You have to understand. 'The Power' in many of these Country's is Their Own Ruling Class. Who are Extremely Rich and Powerful by STEALING from their own people.

Take Mexico, as an example. Just ONE Change in Their Constitution: Allowing non-Mexican Companies and People to BUY and OWN Land/Factories within Mexico - WITHOUT a Mexican Partner - would result in an Economic Boom for the People. But THEIR Ruling Class will not allow this. A rich population would eventually kick out/kill these bums.

The USA is not The Only Power.


I was talking about individuals Clyde, not governments, countries or societies.
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Message 1588915 - Posted: 19 Oct 2014, 19:03:28 UTC - in response to Message 1588876.  

Oh Clyde. How lovely your bubble must be to live in.

Hmmm. You are always wrong about others.

Bubble?

Es99....

Let's see. Visited In-Laws many times in Argentina. Argentinian born Wife owns Vineyards in Argentina (Please buy their wine - it is the best). Also owns home in Buenos Aries (Lovely City, visited many times). Visited Chile, Venezuela, Columbia, Brazil, Honduras many times. Loved Mexico, especially The Yucatan, while inspecting The Mayan Pyramids.

In addition: Lived in Havana Cuba for one year, as a boy, pre-Fidel.

Mi español es muy bueno!

How do you know about the People, Culture and Governments of that region? From books? Movies? TV Shows? Who's living in a bubble?

Of course you never really respond, when you understand the silliness, and worse of treating Non-European/American People as Children. Who cannot be held responsible for Their mistakes.

Again: Why are THEY not responsible for THEIR Mistakes?

So here I am making the point that South America is not a continent that solely relies on the drugs trade (as claimed by Chris s.) and that any instability is actually NOT caused by the drug trade.

You go on to tell me how wrong I am by describing all your lovely trips to South America.

I can only assume that if you think I am wrong then you must have been buying drugs down there.

So Clyde? Am I wrong? Are you in fact in league with the drug cartels?
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Message 1588916 - Posted: 19 Oct 2014, 19:04:51 UTC - in response to Message 1588893.  

Good points. We are all responsible for our own mistakes, but who is held responsible when those mistakes are caused by others interfering or manipulating us?

Ourselves?


They should be held responsible but when they have more 'power' than you, we're talking about fighting a losing battle.

You have to understand. 'The Power' in many of these Country's is Their Own Ruling Class. Who are Extremely Rich and Powerful by STEALING from their own people.

Take Mexico, as an example. Just ONE Change in Their Constitution: Allowing non-Mexican Companies and People to BUY and OWN Land/Factories within Mexico - WITHOUT a Mexican Partner - would result in an Economic Boom for the People. But THEIR Ruling Class will not allow this. A rich population would eventually kick out/kill these bums.

The USA is not The Only Power.

So the problem is the governments that they have? and my point that the US has a habit of installing the governments it wants rather than the democratically elected ones has nothing to do with it.

Ok. Got it.
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Message 1588923 - Posted: 19 Oct 2014, 19:21:12 UTC - in response to Message 1588876.  
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Let's see. Visited In-Laws many times in Argentina. Argentinian born Wife owns Vineyards in Argentina (Please buy their wine - it is the best). Also owns home in Buenos Aries (Lovely City, visited many times). Visited Chile, Venezuela, Columbia, Brazil, Honduras many times. Loved Mexico, especially The Yucatan, while inspecting The Mayan Pyramids.

In addition: Lived in Havana Cuba for one year, as a boy, pre-Fidel.

Mi español es muy bueno!

You do realize that all of that is just completely irrelevant right? No wait, what am I saying, you don't or you wouldn't have posted all of that.

Look Im sure your Spanish is great and your Argentinian wife is a lovely person and the wine made on her families vineyard is delicious, but how has that got anything to do with the US's foreign policy that supported army coups in the area that overthrew democratically elected governments?

The whole point about another country actively overthrowing another countries government is that the local people are not responsible for that happening. They didn't vote for it, they didn't chose it, they didn't support it. And what about the people that took their civic responsibility even further and actively protested here. You know what happened? They were put on cargo planes, which flew over the sea, opened the doors and kicked the people out. Ask your wife or your in laws about that.

But suuuuureeee, its all their own fault that the CIA came in and helped some general become the next president. They shouldn't have voted for the people America didn't like.
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Message 1589360 - Posted: 20 Oct 2014, 18:20:38 UTC

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DENVER (AP) -- Colorado health officials want to ban many edible forms of marijuana, including brownies, cookies and most candies, limiting legal sales of pot-infused food to lozenges and some liquids.

The Colorado Department of Public Health and Environment told marijuana regulators that many forms of edible marijuana "are naturally attractive to children" and violate the law's "requirement to prevent the marketing of marijuana products to children."
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Message 1589475 - Posted: 20 Oct 2014, 22:40:01 UTC

Teenagers' regular cannabis use 'impairs intelligence'

Teenagers who are regular cannabis users by the age of 15 risk "impairing" their educational ability, suggests a study of young people in the UK.

But the study shows occasional use does not seem linked to reduced achievement.

The research is based on a long-term study tracking the health of people born in the Bristol area in the 1990s.

But the study warns it is difficult to distinguish the specific impact of cannabis from other overlapping "risky behaviours" such as drinking alcohol.

"It's hard to know what causes what. Do kids do badly at school because they are smoking weed, or do they smoke weed because they're doing badly? This study suggests it is not as simple as saying cannabis is the problem," says lead researcher Claire Mokrysz, from University College London.
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Message 1589488 - Posted: 20 Oct 2014, 23:07:58 UTC - in response to Message 1589360.  

Haven't we already established mommy and daddy can have their kids stoned? What's the difference between Methylphenidate and pot?
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