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Message 1585020 - Posted: 10 Oct 2014, 23:20:37 UTC - in response to Message 1585006.  

By all means, keep pouring detergent down your throat, and burn leaves :-)


And of course, caffeine, sugar and salt all bad for you if taken in excess, as is red meat.

However I believe red wine in moderation is actually good for you.



Red wine releases the antioxidants in the body.


My dad in law always says.
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Message 1585021 - Posted: 10 Oct 2014, 23:23:29 UTC - in response to Message 1585018.  

By all means, keep pouring detergent down your throat, and burn leaves :-)


And of course, caffeine, sugar and salt all bad for you if taken in excess, as is red meat.

However I believe red wine in moderation is actually good for you.



Red wine releases the antioxidants in the body.

The body actually produces it's own ethanol, cannabinoids, morphine and a whole host of other powerful drugs as needed.
The neurotransmitter mix in the body is unknown but at least 100 have been identified.
The brains own endorphins are more powerfull than opiates.
Stupid people, and teens should not do drugs.


Good, so your argument now, is that we do not need to take any drugs, because the body produces what it need itself. Very good that you finally came to that conclusion.

Well done.



Every cognizant person is aware of that.
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Message 1585024 - Posted: 10 Oct 2014, 23:29:29 UTC - in response to Message 1585022.  

By all means, keep pouring detergent down your throat, and burn leaves :-)


And of course, caffeine, sugar and salt all bad for you if taken in excess, as is red meat.

However I believe red wine in moderation is actually good for you.



Red wine releases the antioxidants in the body.


My dad in law always says.


Tell your dad in law, that it is an old wrong human belief. (It's thousands of those out there, like the one that you should go for a swim right after you have eaten)




I strongly believe in my beer diet:)
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Message 1585034 - Posted: 10 Oct 2014, 23:48:19 UTC - in response to Message 1585032.  

By all means, keep pouring detergent down your throat, and burn leaves :-)


And of course, caffeine, sugar and salt all bad for you if taken in excess, as is red meat.

However I believe red wine in moderation is actually good for you.



Red wine releases the antioxidants in the body.


My dad in law always says.


Tell your dad in law, that it is an old wrong human belief. (It's thousands of those out there, like the one that you should go for a swim right after you have eaten)




I strongly believe in my beer diet:)


Well cheers to you then. :-) I have made my point here. Please continue with the pot discussions. Of course if another one calls me a "Facist", as can be seen some posts up, I'll reserve the right to comment on that.

Good night cruel world.



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Message 1585043 - Posted: 11 Oct 2014, 0:03:16 UTC

I like the idea of decriminalising it, all those lovely "posthumous" Darwin Awards displaying in my cab window from all those dope-heads that end up under the wheels of my 44 tonner...

...I have yet to see anyone pass comments on drugs & driving. We see plenty on TV about this time of year regarding drink & driving as we head into the Xmas season.

Can anyone on here who drives genuinely state that being under the influence of drugs does not affect your driving?
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Message 1585047 - Posted: 11 Oct 2014, 0:09:30 UTC - in response to Message 1585035.  

http://www.businessinsider.com/health-benefits-of-medical-marijuana-2014-4?op=1
Some good examples in that article that fall under the domain of self medicating.
I've scientifically proven that it helps me sleep.


Excuse me, but where can we read your peer reviewed double blind test? You claim it is scientifically proven, and then it has to be a peer reviewed double blind test.

I believe you when you post that peer reviewed double blind test. Otherwise, it's just a worthless personal opinion on the medical benefits of pot.

When the result is published in for example Scientific American, you can tell your doctor to prescribe pot to you. Until then, it's just a personal non backed up opinion.

After all, this is a scientific board.....



+1, also a board people have something to say, in a respectful way, towards others, in my experience.
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Message 1585057 - Posted: 11 Oct 2014, 0:15:49 UTC - in response to Message 1585045.  

So is this link useless?

Cannabis & Mental Health

"Is cannabis addictive?

Yes. Even though in the past cannabis was not thought to be addictive, current evidence now suggests that it can be, particularly if used regularly. Cannabis has the features of addictive drugs such as the development of:
•tolerance – which means having to take more and more to get the same effect. In heavy users, you can experience withdrawal symptoms such as:
•craving
•decreased appetite
•sleep difficulty
•weight loss
•aggression and/or increased irritability
•irritability
•restlessness
•strange dreams."
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Message 1585072 - Posted: 11 Oct 2014, 0:34:10 UTC - in response to Message 1585064.  

I like the idea of decriminalising it, all those lovely "posthumous" Darwin Awards displaying in my cab window from all those dope-heads that end up under the wheels of my 44 tonner...

...I have yet to see anyone pass comments on drugs & driving. We see plenty on TV about this time of year regarding drink & driving as we head into the Xmas season.

Can anyone on here who drives genuinely state that being under the influence of drugs does not affect your driving?

I don't drink or do drugs and then drive.
Many medical marihuana patients who are acclimatized to their medication can't drive unless medicated.
Many habitual drinkers are better drivers with drink in them than when sober.
More accidents happen because of distracted drivers than any other cause.
The dope-heads are usually the slow drivers, alcohol fuelled the erratic speeders.
Try not to drive over the slow moving dope-heads with your 44 tonner.

So you're saying that you use both? If so, you don't drive for 56 days?

"This is why cannabis can be detected in urine up to 56 days after it has last been used."

As for slow moving dope-heads: -

"A recent study in France looked at over 10,000 drivers who were involved in fatal car crashes. Even when the influence of alcohol was taken into account, cannabis users were more than twice as likely to be the cause of a fatal crash than to be one of the victims."

So with your sarcasm, we take your word over those of qualified medical professionals?
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Message 1585079 - Posted: 11 Oct 2014, 0:51:01 UTC - in response to Message 1585073.  


Geeze Sirius, it's bad, isn't it? When you poke the hornets nest, and all that...

Excuses for DUI. This thread is relly going downhill. These threads usually does, when really tough questions and ideas are being brought up.
Next step is to question my English, for being Swedish :-)

Tell me about it! I've had several accidents with fatalities. I'm still surprised to this day that the dope-head & drunks I took out did not affect me but the one that put me off the road for close to 3 years was one involving a foreigner with no license, tax or insurance. She survived, the 4 year old boy did not.

What made that worse was the written letter from the (Political Correct) police force criticising my driving. I was well within the speed limits, vehicle fully documented & roadworthy.

It won't be much longer till the day will come when "normal" people will be the minority in the world.
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Message 1585084 - Posted: 11 Oct 2014, 0:55:29 UTC

Geeze Sirius, it's bad, isn't it? When you poke the hornets nest, and all that...

Excuses for DUI. This thread is relly going downhill. These threads usually does, when really tough questions and ideas are being brought up.


Sten-Arne, Most People are Not Going to Live In Your World. Never Ever.

We Will Die by Our Criminal and Drugged Induced Ways or Kill Others or Both.

We Live With 'it'. 'Cause Dats The Way WE LIKE 'IT'.

Our Way. Not Your Way.

You and Like-Minded Will Never Rule US. Never. Ever.

So, Go North Young Man and Be With Santa Klaus.

HuWoMan will Drug On, Drink On, Go Full Tilt, CRY and BLEED Till The Very End.

The HuWoMan Way.

Sweetness.

May we All have a METAMORPHOSIS. REASON. GOoD JUDGEMENT and LOVE and ORDER!!!!!
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Message 1585085 - Posted: 11 Oct 2014, 0:59:36 UTC - in response to Message 1585077.  

So is this link useless?

Cannabis & Mental Health

"Is cannabis addictive?

Yes. Even though in the past cannabis was not thought to be addictive, current evidence now suggests that it can be, particularly if used regularly. Cannabis has the features of addictive drugs such as the development of:
•tolerance – which means having to take more and more to get the same effect. In heavy users, you can experience withdrawal symptoms such as:
•craving
•decreased appetite
•sleep difficulty
•weight loss
•aggression and/or increased irritability
•irritability
•restlessness
•strange dreams."

That looks like the list of symptoms you might have trying to quit smoking.
In 45 years i've never known anyone to go to rehab for cannabis, though many have gone for alcohol.
Most experienced users can take it or leave it with little difficulty.
Most people will find some therapeutic value and use it for specific purposes.
I found it quite useful for decompressing after a week of exams at university back in the 70s.
I know a lot of people who use it to really get into the sound of their guitar.
Even with large doses in an edible i find myself quite refreshed after a deep sleep.
It does affect everyone differently and isn't for those of weak will, but then those people will just as likely find something else maybe even more detrimental.
The problem isn't drugs as much as it is a preference for Criminalization instead of Social Health Care, to the delight of the drug cartels.

OMG! REALLY?

I prefer something better than that to decompress after a hard week's work...

...clue...

It's soft
It's cuddly
It's sexy as hell

Best drug in the world to have!
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Message 1585092 - Posted: 11 Oct 2014, 1:19:05 UTC - in response to Message 1585090.  

OMG! REALLY?

I prefer something better than that to decompress after a hard week's work...

...clue...

It's soft
It's cuddly
It's sexy as hell

Best drug in the world to have!


Yup, natural and not dangerous (normally) :-)

Only dangerous when a special word is used...

Tammy Wynette had a number one hit over here using that word :-(
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Message 1585094 - Posted: 11 Oct 2014, 1:27:22 UTC - in response to Message 1585087.  

Dope heads on the road is going to kill thousands of people, and do kill lots of people already. It's just going to get worse...

Think Darwin awards and golbal warming. As for me I will continute to experiment as I have on a nearly daily basis in moderation, as I have for over 45 years
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Message 1585102 - Posted: 11 Oct 2014, 1:40:42 UTC - in response to Message 1585100.  

OMG! REALLY?

I prefer something better than that to decompress after a hard week's work...

...clue...

It's soft
It's cuddly
It's sexy as hell

Best drug in the world to have!


Yup, natural and not dangerous (normally) :-)

Only dangerous when a special word is used...

Tammy Wynette had a number one hit over here using that word :-(


Hmm Tammy Wynette is well known, but the late (early) hour, stops me from remembering what word it was :-)

D.I.V.O.R.C.E.

& the right word to use to separate druggies from their driving licenses :-)
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Message 1585117 - Posted: 11 Oct 2014, 2:32:39 UTC
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Driving under the influence of chemical substances is not acceptable - but I'd much rather be on the road with a driver on cannabis than one on any other substance - and that includes the one that is a contributory factor in more than 70% of road traffic fatalities - raging testosterone... Sorry boys.

*tum-te-tum and stir the pot* :)

Would be nice if we could get to the situation where 100% of car accidents were caused by sober, non-drug users though wouldn't it... instead of the present paltry 68%

Anyway... off to try and get to sleep... AGAIN... :/

edit: of course - I have driven under the influence of caffeine... anti-histamines... paracetamol... carbon monoxide... and they have all affected my driving in one or another I think...
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Message 1585118 - Posted: 11 Oct 2014, 2:34:44 UTC - in response to Message 1585117.  

Driving under the influence of chemical substances is not acceptable - but I'd much rather be on the road with a driver on cannabis than one on any other substance - and that includes the one that is a contributory factor in more than 70% of road traffic fatalities - raging testosterone... Sorry boys.

*tum-te-tum and stir the pot* :)

Would be nice if we could get to the situation where 100% of car accidents were caused by sober, non-drug users though wouldn't it... instead of the present paltry 68%

Anyway... off to try and get to sleep... AGAIN... :/

LOL, maybe a "little" bit of pot might be helpful with that?
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Message 1585131 - Posted: 11 Oct 2014, 3:07:30 UTC

Some are forgetting that legalizing pot smoking doesn't make it legal to drive under it's influence. And it probably won't impact the percentage of accidents caused by it's use as it is widespread already.
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Message 1585144 - Posted: 11 Oct 2014, 4:52:58 UTC

The Truth About Driving While Stoned

"Mark Kleiman, a drug policy expert and professor at UCLA, says driving stoned is hazardous, but much less hazardous than driving drunk. Marijuana, according to a 2013 Columbia University case-control study, holds a relative risk of 1.83—meaning that driving 10 miles stoned is equally dangerous to driving 18 sober. This number falls significantly below those of other factors. In the same study, alcohol is shown to have a relative risk of 12; alcohol combined with something else, 23. According to data from the National Safety Council, the relative risk of texting is 4. “You shouldn’t be driving stoned," says Kleiman. “But there are many things that will degrade driving just as much if not more—having a 4-year-old in your back seat, sleepiness, texting."
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Message 1585161 - Posted: 11 Oct 2014, 6:21:49 UTC - in response to Message 1585079.  

Tell me about it! I've had several accidents with fatalities.

I know you were a HGV delivery driver, but several accidents with fatalities?! Several?!!! Just how bad are the roads over there? While HGV drivers over here have a fair number of accidents, several fatal accidents is not common. Maybe one or two but several?!!

I'm still surprised to this day that the dope-head & drunks I took out did not affect me but the one that put me off the road for close to 3 years was one involving a foreigner with no license, tax or insurance. She survived, the 4 year old boy did not.

What made that worse was the written letter from the (Political Correct) police force criticising my driving. I was well within the speed limits, vehicle fully documented & roadworthy.

Maybe there was something which wasn't illegal or immoral you did that isn't the smartest thing to be doing. The law only sets out guidelines, not best practices.

Reminds me of someone I talked to once who in the space of a couple years was rear ended 5 times. Rather obviously he was doing something to get hit that much, but the law says in a rear end accident the other driver is at fault.
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Message 1585275 - Posted: 11 Oct 2014, 14:51:13 UTC - in response to Message 1585161.  

Tell me about it! I've had several accidents with fatalities.

I know you were a HGV delivery driver, but several accidents with fatalities?! Several?!!! Just how bad are the roads over there? While HGV drivers over here have a fair number of accidents, several fatal accidents is not common. Maybe one or two but several?!!

Nope, did nothing wrong. Silly buggers turned right onto a one way road, unfortunately for them, the traffic was travelling left...

...get the picture? To make comments like that Gary without knowledge of the incidents, I find surprising coming from you.
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